Talking about them because they now have the minor league capital to go out and get whoever they want. They want JoFer? They can get him. Sale? They can afford him as well...
TRADE DEADLINE GAME THREAD
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Yea. Everyone thought the talks were completely dead and then the trade deadline passed and we all assumed Manny was staying. Then literally like 2 minutes after the deadline the deal was leaked to all the sources.
Tate's actually been in low-A, and wildly inconsistent with nagging injuries. Not exactly what you expect from #4 overall out of a D-1 college program.
The Marlins are currently a playoff team and would be nuts to move him any time soon.
I'm not suggesting he's a bust, but people are creaming their pants over a kid with an ERA over 5 for the Hickory Crawdads.
Well, they have plenty of talent at the higher levels also, but I think that indeed is what they are trying to do. Try to build a young core over the next two years, then spend big money after 2018 to add superstars where necessary (Harper, Machado, Jose Fernandez). I doubt that they'll be going after Sale or anyone else requiring that much prospect talent.
I said it earlier I think Devers is overrated (top 50 in my book not top 20). I think they have several prospects in the Devers class.
Now clearly Moncada is a class by himself, and AB does seem worth his top 10 rating. I think it will be somewhat interesting watching Ab and Frazier over the next 5 years, I think both will be very good players, but either one could be the better player
Well it is more than one deadline. They have had a nice year. and were probably solidly in the top 10 before the deadline Getting Rutherford in the draft was a steal, and he is just a man among boys in his 2 stops in the minors. Then the breakout of Dermis. Garcia in Pulaski also raises them, as he certainly is raw and has holes in the swing but his game power is absurd for a 18 year old. Add to that Chance Adams just destroying a couple of leagues on the mound. Their one big setback as Kaprielian getting hurt,
As per a radio interview with Bud some years back: if a deal is close to getting done and there's only a minor wrinkle or two to iron out, 4:00.00PM isnt a hard and fast cutoff if the teams are close and negotiating in good faith.
So the Yankee's take all these prospects and acquire a huge star that probably needs a 7/10 year deal. Oh Noez! Who cares? They've been winning the FA market for about a decade now. How would this be any different?
Nomars trade came out at like 5pm didn't it? That's the latest one I can think of.
Oh yeah. If only the Sox were having a crappy year and could sell right now. That would be much more exciting than being in a pennant race.
Yeah no. They can't just get JoFer because they want him. I'm not sure Moncada/Beni nets you Jofer and NYY don't have anyone close to them.
They have an awful lot of nickles and some dimes but that doesn't mean you can trade 5 nickles for a quarter.
What this will allow them to do is build in payroll flexibility they haven't had in a decade or two. If they get averageish performance out of a couple of these guys in pre-arb years they can then spend like drunken sailors in FA again. With Harper and Machado a couple years away that should be the real concern.
Sure, they can dump 5 or 6 of the prospects they've just picked up for ONE of those pitchers. Their position group is nothing special, nor is the rest of their rotation. They have no one on the level of Betts, X, and Bradley on their team - nevermind Moncada and Benintendi, etc. They did what they absolutely HAD to, but they're far from anything to worry about. Also, if people are saying they now have the best farm, it's Yankees bias at it's absolute best.
I'm annoyed they made good deals on rental players, but they're not a sudden super team.
Today's trade market is insane. Teams weren't giving up these type of prospects in 2014.
As I said above, I really don't think this is their plan. What Jeff Passan just tweeted is much more towards their (very general) plan IMO:
Jeff Passan @JeffPassan 7m7 minutes ago
2019 Yankees? Sanchez 2 Bird 3 Mateo 4 Machado 5 Torres 6 Ellsbury 7 Frazier 8 Harper 9 Judge DH
SP: Fernandez, Tanaka, Sheff, Kap, Tate
Yeah no. They can't just get JoFer because they want him. I'm not sure Moncada/Beni nets you Jofer and NYY don't have anyone close to them.
They have an awful lot of nickles and some dimes but that doesn't mean you can trade 5 nickles for a quarter.
What this will allow them to do is build in payroll flexibility they haven't had in a decade or two. If they get averageish performance out of a couple of these guys in pre-arb years they can then spend like drunken sailors in FA again. With Harper and Machado a couple years away that should be the real concern.
ESPN's Buster Olney reports that the Mets are out on Brewers catcher Jonathan Lucroy.
Related: Mets, Rangers
Source: Buster Olney on Twitter
Related: Mets, Rangers
Source: Buster Olney on Twitter
But if they do move him to the MFY's then yeah, everyone should just go ahead and call him JoFer.
They entered the season with the 14th ranked farm, and are now #1? They have done GREAT work, given up great talent
Disagree. There are other farms (Sox included) that can still trump any offer the Yanks bring. You need a Moncada/Benintendi/Reyes/Crawford/Giolito type as the anchor. Yanks have numbers of prospects now. That said, how many top 25? I can't think of any......
Tate's velocity is off, according to a comment I read on another board. [Yes, this is gamethreading at its finest.] Obviously his results have been terrible. So what you believe -- his track record so far or his draft pedigree -- is up to you.
I didn't say I'd prefer to be a seller, I'm simply stating that this is the best single deadline selling market we've seen in a very long time, and the Yankees are sellers for the first time in a long time.
Yup. I cannot remember a steeper price for pitchers (or position players for that matter) ever at this time of year. Best time to cash in.
Ben Gamel will be promoted on Monday.
He'll take the roster spot left vacant by Monday's trade of Carlos Beltran to the Rangers. Gamel, 24, is 1-for-8 this season at the major league level. He does have decent speed, but there's no reason to pick him up in a standard fantasy league.
Source: Joel Sherman on Twitter
They begrudgingly let Cashman do his thing for 2 weeks. 2019 projected lineups? Chill. Tampa is gonna be on the horn soon enough asking what the plan to win in 2017 is and how can all the new prospects help out.
This is likely just temporary as Judge is back from his injury this week. He's not on the 40 man yet, but once he starts hitting again at AAA, I'd think he'd slot right into NY's RF spot.
Ok, who gives a crap about the Yankees stockpiling prospects in this thread. If anything I hope they hold onto most of them are try to break them in which means they'll be pretty average for the next few years. The exact window where the Red Sox will be at their toughest with all of the youngsters getting into the prime age 24-28 years.
At any rate, lets see if DD has a last minute deal up his sleeve. I'm not really excited about anything except for maybe a Lucroy deal since they probably aren't giving up AB or YC in that deal.
At any rate, lets see if DD has a last minute deal up his sleeve. I'm not really excited about anything except for maybe a Lucroy deal since they probably aren't giving up AB or YC in that deal.
Big change in Bruce trade
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 46s47 seconds ago
Bruce deal is done. Dilson Herrera going to #Reds.
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 46s47 seconds ago
Bruce deal is done. Dilson Herrera going to #Reds.
The other two pieces in the Beltran trade are a 22 year old in the Sally League (Eric Swanson) who has decent numbers and a 21 year old in short-season ball (Nick Green) with what looks like a fastball and that's it. So a couple of Powerball tickets. Nothing worth getting too excited about.
Blue Jays get Scott Feldman. Color me unimpressed with Jays and O's additions (Miley). Let's crush these fools!
Jose Fernandez deal is gumming up the works. Refresh every second though. Should be news coming in.
And in conjunction, the Dodgers get RHP Jesse Chavez from Toronto for RHP Mike Bolsinger
