Can’t wait for Bill to get asked about it at Super Bowl week. Should be fun.What are the odds anyway cares? 0%
Can’t wait for Bill to get asked about it at Super Bowl week. Should be fun.What are the odds anyway cares? 0%
I think the way it's reported on makes it seem like Guerrero's stuff is 90% BS, when it is probably more like 10% BS and most of what he's doing is normal trainer stuff ... which, by all indication, he's really good at. That makes sense - "Tom Brady's personal trainer says don't eat tomatoes, drink water to avoid sunburns" is a headline, whereas "Tom Brady's personal trainer says stretch and eat healthy" is not. I'm not crying "fake news" - the media should pay attention to the odious elements of Guerrero's past - but that stuff probably doesn't have a lot to do with what the day-to-day is like.I find it very strange that there are people who believe Brady was seduced by Guerrero, a snake oil salesman, and is used as a puppet for him to create a health/fitness empire based only on pseudoscience.
Brady has talked about how much his shoulder hurt after practices when he was in his 20's, and how sore he'd be after games, you really don't think following Guerrero's method improved things for him on that front? Because I think that's why he became so enthusiastic about it, he had tangible, non placebo results that have helped him maintain a high level of performance in his 40's.
I don't like Guerrero either, and a lot of what he preaches is obvious bullshit, but even if the rest is just common sense stuff (work on pliability, hidrate, eat well, rest, don't overwork your muscles) it's shady that he sells it as a revolutionary method, but I don't think every aspect of it is made up and that Brady is just entranced by Guerrero's personality. He became a believer because it very likely made a real difference for him.
You’re telling me you wouldn’t be interested in seeing this guy’s reaction to it? Child, please.What are the odds anyway cares? 0%
Per this site the dates are:Watched episode 1.
Fantastic.
Did them making the SB push the release up? Feels like a great set up.
When is ep2?
So what percent of dangerous to your health fraud is acceptable then? And what percent is optimal?I think the way it's reported on makes it seem like Guerrero's stuff is 90% BS, when it is probably more like 10% BS and most of what he's doing is normal trainer stuff ... which, by all indication, he's really good at. That makes sense - "Tom Brady's personal trainer says don't eat tomatoes, drink water to avoid sunburns" is a headline, whereas "Tom Brady's personal trainer says stretch and eat healthy" is not. I'm not crying "fake news" - the media should pay attention to the odious elements of Guerrero's past - but that stuff probably doesn't have a lot to do with what the day-to-day is like.
What is dangerous about anything Guerrero is doing?! He’s not giving him some fake cancer treatments or something. He’s treating sore muscles and putting in through workouts. Sheesh.So what percent of dangerous to your health fraud is acceptable then? And what percent is optimal?
Concussion water. Hydration makes you impervious to sunburn. Hydrating to such extreme levels that you could get water intoxication, which is potentially deadly. Fake cancer treatments. And this is just off the top of my head that has been made public.What is dangerous about anything Guerrero is doing?! He’s not giving him some fake cancer treatments or something. He’s treating sore muscles and putting in through workouts. Sheesh.
I mean, I called it "odious."So what percent of dangerous to your health fraud is acceptable then? And what percent is optimal?
How is concussion water dangerous to his health? It's not like he is drinking some special water and then not wearing a helmet because he thinks he is immune to concussions.Concussion water. Hydration makes you impervious to sunburn. Hydrating to such extreme levels that you could get water intoxication, which is potentially deadly. Fake cancer treatments. And this is just off the top of my head that has been made public.
I assume he let his mother choose her preferred course of treatment.I didn't realize Brady had cancer though. Now I'm worried about next Sunday.
It could be worse, he could be a chiropractor!What is dangerous about anything Guerrero is doing?! He’s not giving him some fake cancer treatments or something. He’s treating sore muscles and putting in through workouts. Sheesh.
This post is so hilariously wrong and misinformed it’s the height of lunacy.Concussion water. Hydration makes you impervious to sunburn. Hydrating to such extreme levels that you could get water intoxication, which is potentially deadly. Fake cancer treatments. And this is just off the top of my head that has been made public.
Again, you’ve yet to proven he’s doing anything to actively harm Brady.Ok, I guess the tolerance for proven con artists is pretty high. My bad.
BUT HE DEFLATED FOOTBALLS!Fanboy rant alert:
It boggles my mind that he's as hated around the country as he is. I'm biased and I understand people get tired of winners but watching these he's just an obsessive, unassuming dork. The NFL fucked up with their witch hunts. He should be a role model around the country showing hard work and dedication pay off. He's everything JJ Watt thinks he is without the faux humble act
We are "tolerating it" to the same degree that we tolerate the innumerate other kinds of bullshit that pervade our society. We just don't feel the need to go beyond calling it bullshit given most folks' assessment of the impact it is having. You apparently feel differently.Ok, I guess the tolerance for proven con artists is pretty high. My bad.
Personally I'm tolerating it because it has zero negative impacts on my life and helps even if it's only in his head Tom Brady win constantly at 40. He could read Tom bed time stories and wave magic rocks over Tom and if he thinks it helps, then great.We are "tolerating it" to the same degree that we tolerate the innumerate other kinds of bullshit that pervade our society. We just don't feel the need to go beyond calling it bullshit given most folks' assessment of the impact it is having. You apparently feel differently.
Suppose Guerrero were just an osteopath? There are clear elements of bullshit in osteopathy, some of it dangerous if taken too literally. Yet osteopaths are widely accepted and many, many people get treatment from them, and the general consensus seems to be that they do some good. Would you be as outraged and hectoring as you are now?
To cut to the chase, the degree of bullshit and its impact matters. If Guerrero took up homeopathy (which is utter bullshit) and was using that to treat people, I would be with you on the front lines with my torch. And when TB12 starts peddling its "concussion water" widely and people take it seriously, then I'll start yelling. Right now Guerrero's just running a glorified spa, whose main client seems to be one Thomas Brady, obsessed rich dude.
I had no interest either, I assumed it was just going to be a TB12 infomercial but so far it hasn't been that at all.BUT HE DEFLATED FOOTBALLS!
I had no interest in watching this stuff, but after all the great reviews, it's very compelling.
I thought I heard him say that the defender made the play of his life.Episode 2 reactions:
I think my favorite part was him watching that fucking bomb to Moss and feeling as gut-wrenched as I do every time I see it. That was one of the best throws a human being has ever made.
Also, the back and forth with Jules toward the end..."that's not my fucking job" = awesome.
Totally agree on the SB 42 Moss pass. I've watched that throw over and over and continue to be astounded on a ball thrown over 70 yards in the air, under the most adverse game conditions, that was inches away from negating helmet catch. It was an amazing throw.Episode 2 reactions:
I think my favorite part was him watching that fucking bomb to Moss and feeling as gut-wrenched as I do every time I see it. That was one of the best throws a human being has ever made.
That legit cracked me up.Paraphrasing...
Good news and Bad news... which do you want to hear first?.
True, but, Tom is one of the last people in the NFL to continue to wear the discontinued Riddell VSR4, which is ranked "marginal" near the bottom of Virgina Tech's helmet ratings for concussion protectionIt's not like he is drinking some special water and then not wearing a helmet because he thinks he is immune to concussions.
I thought that was more him prognosticating what would have to happen for them to have a good first half of the season after a 2-2 start than chalking up wins.It’s almost jarring to see Brady ticking through the schedule and chalking up wins to try to see where they’ll be at the bye rather than just the standard “we’re focused on this week” line.
I need to go back and watch it again, but I thought he said “that’s a win” after one of them. Either way it was strange to see him looking ahead at the schedule given the official Pats mantra.I thought that was more him prognosticating what would have to happen for them to have a good first half of the season after a 2-2 start than chalking up wins.
It's what a fan would do. I kind of like that.I need to go back and watch it again, but I thought he said “that’s a win” after one of them. Either way it was strange to see him looking ahead at the schedule given the official Pats mantra.
So this will probably be unpopular, but I thought including Edelman's doubts about the TB12 system was a blame-the-victim setup for his injury later in the episode. The doubter was smote down.What I really liked was that, even though there was a TB12 ad in the middle, they had Edelman on the footage giving his opposing view. It’s not really being forced down anyone’s throat.
That's a stone cold cynical way of looking at that exchange. You think Brady would want to be involved in a doc that victim blames one of the best receivers he's ever had and ostensibly a pretty good friend, too?So this will probably be unpopular, but I thought including Edelman's doubts about the TB12 system was a blame-the-victim setup for his injury later in the episode. The doubter was smote down.
But I did love the brodown stuff in Montana, and Edelman's delivery on the broken driver was outstanding.
I'm not sure Tom Brady is conscious of it. But I'm not certain why that exchange between Edelman and Other Dude (confusingly also named Brady?) would be included in the doc otherwise. What does it add? We also don't hear about Amendola's workout regime.That's a stone cold cynical way of looking at that exchange. You think Brady would want to be involved in a doc that victim blames one of the best receivers he's ever had and ostensibly a pretty good friend, too?
I think you're right. He said, "if we beat the Jets, that's 4-2. Then that's a big game against Atlanta. And we'll pull it out. That's 5-2"I need to go back and watch it again, but I thought he said “that’s a win” after one of them. Either way it was strange to see him looking ahead at the schedule given the official Pats mantra.
Edelman has a future in some form of media. The guy is naturally clever and hilarious.But I did love the brodown stuff in Montana, and Edelman's delivery on the broken driver was outstanding.