I think, as irrational as it is, some of us fear that if Mac plays a tick below average for the rest of the year people here and within the organization are going to give him another year worth of rope and we’ll have to suffer through all of this yet again next year.
Yup. Similar to 2020 when many(myself included) were wanting him to start Stidham, and he kept rolling Cam out there. Coaches always have much more, and usually better, information about their players than fans and media do. Combine that with a sort of inherent conservatism that seems to come with the job, and they are reluctant to just throw things against the wall. They are more wired to keep grinding away and try and improve with the players they’ve already decided are their best options. I don’t think Zap or Cunningham start this year unless injuries necessitate it. And I don’t think either of them would meaningfully change the trajectory of this season.
If Mac plays like the aggregate of the first 5 games of this season (not just the last 2), I think we can make 2 safe assumptions:
It’s carrying over, too, because the first two series Mac had clean enough pockets and looked like he was seeing ghosts, dancing around, and airmailing throws. When you’re starting games like that, it’s already over. The OL then imploded anyway, but you get my point.
This was true last year and to start this year as well. At some point he might just be David Carr’d.
And he’s done that with Desmond Ridder as his QB in a run-dominant offense.
Smith has had 2 good games, 2 meh games, and one game in which he had 0 targets in 26 snaps.
To me that's mostly on coaching, but more and more I'm feeling like the failure of YAC players in this offense has a lot to do with Mac simply not getting the ball there on time. The team has no space after the catch and it didn't last year either. Now that's on scheming too, but I'm not talking about catching a 3 yard drag and gaining 30 yards, but can they extract 5 or 6?? Seems like every pass is contested.
Kyle Pitts isn’t much of an in line blocker. He’s obviously more physically gifted than Henry but Atlanta has figured out how to get production from both TEs. That whole Jonnu situation just never made sense.
He threw fading away, didn't consistently line up towards the sidelines (especially to his right) and had trouble resetting his feet after getting off his first read at Alabama too with a pocket the size of a small European country in front of him. Now, the issues have certainly been exacerbated these past two years, but it's not like he was a rock in the pocket and completely fell apart, he just became worse at stuff he did poorly even in the best possible environment.
The second quote was said before yesterday's game, and the first quote was said after.
Isnt this simplifying it a bit too much? Because on the flipside Jakobi Meyers was the top rated FA wideout after two solid years with Mac Jones. Hunter Henry & Bourne also had their overall best statistical seasons with Mac. note: I specifically didn't say "because of Mac," because I dont think that's true. I just dont think the inverse (Jonnu was made worse here because of Mac) WAS true either. Though it certainly might be true now - Mac has been historically bad the last couple games, and not surprising that goes right along with the O-line being historically bad as well. Im not sure having Waddle/Hill/Chase and CMC would help right now!
Firmly in this camp, and if he does recover, I doubt it will be in New England.
Our original roster cutdown had over 20% of the spots going to lineman. I think there must be at least 2 functional guards, Trent plays well every time he gets a couple extra mil (can we keep that going?), I don't think Andrews is cached (though I'm not sure why), but there is just nothing on the horizon at RT and they seem unable to compensate. They are in shambles. Just have to fix the line or...
I defended the Mac pick in the draft, I defended him the first few games this year, but the last few games have shown this whole situation is not working out for either party. If I am Mac, once my fifth year option gets declined (though who knows what BB the GM will do at this point) I am leaving in FA and not even asking the Pats to beat whatever contract is offered from some other team.
It's already ugly. But I dont get why some source close to Mac saying this means anything? That tweet isn't alleging that Mac himself said it, unless Im misreading?
Mac “Hey buddy, great question! All my friends do, don’t yours? Ha, I thought it started with stink stank and stunk but the line is actually worse! “
At this point I’d roll with Zappe. Don’t get me wrong, he’s awful. But, his wildly inaccurate throws don’t put his receivers in harms way. Mac’s wobbly ducks put his receivers danger far too often.
Agreed but this is what happens when you suck. All the vultures come out and this stuff, while stupid, tends to stick if it fits an overall narrative about Mac's petulance, etc. I'll be shocked at this point if he starts a game for this team in the 2024 season.
It's weird phrasing for sure.. I think it means that no matter how good Mac is, the team around him is so bad that it will make him look bad
I don't know what Savage sports is, but this is the most clickbaity thing I've ever seen.
If you want to back even further a guy named Jim Plunkett looked equally lost here. Two teams and several years later he was a 2-time SB champ.
Watching JT O'Sullivan break down last weeks game for Mac was brutal. He was just racing through his reads, and running out of the pocket when there was little to no pressure. JT just kept saying, where are you going?
It literally isn'tIt is literally a repost from foxsports
I mentioned Parker on this play in the game thread. Mac was under no pressure and Parker was just wide open for an easy first and probably 90% a TD. He never even saw him because he never made the read. He forced himself out left and lost balance and vision to his right. Then the throw to Gesicki was not NFL QB caliber, even if it could have been caught.
Unless he got word that Bill is instituting a "we'll run the ball exclusively until we get a first down on the ground" rule like in the Steven Jackson game against Miami, that could only mean a QB change.
I mean this with all sincerity--how?
I agree with this but I think the only thing that could be different is personnel. Does that mean they are leaning towards a QB change?
I doubt it. But who knows.
