The future at 3rd
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still really hopeful that these reports are accurate.
Another thing is that Bowden said in the radio that when he got this tweet, he texted both camps for confirmation/denial. He did not receive any response from either camp. He said on air that typically when he will send a text asking about the validity of a rumor, he gets an immediate response shooting down the rumor. Given that he received no response, perhaps there is more to it.
Another thing is that Bowden said in the radio that when he got this tweet, he texted both camps for confirmation/denial. He did not receive any response from either camp. He said on air that typically when he will send a text asking about the validity of a rumor, he gets an immediate response shooting down the rumor. Given that he received no response, perhaps there is more to it.
I would love to sign both Hanley and Panda. Put Hanley in LF or 1b, trade Naps but preferably Yoenis. To get Panda, I would offer 6/100 with an opt out after the 5th year with the 6th year only paying 5 mil. He has his 100 mil and you know he will most likely opt out that last year so you get the 5/95 if you're the Sox. Both sides win. An opt-out before the final year would be an interesting discussion.
If we sign Panda and/or Hanley for 3b, I think the 2 players that will go will be Cecchini and Marrero. Marrero's value is pretty high after him tearing up the AFL and I think X showed to be decent enough in September to stick at SS for a couple more years. I personally think Marrero is overrated and won't hit enough to be the Sox starting SS. Pokey Reese was NOT fun to watch bat.
If we sign Panda and/or Hanley for 3b, I think the 2 players that will go will be Cecchini and Marrero. Marrero's value is pretty high after him tearing up the AFL and I think X showed to be decent enough in September to stick at SS for a couple more years. I personally think Marrero is overrated and won't hit enough to be the Sox starting SS. Pokey Reese was NOT fun to watch bat.
Could be. I'm just relaying what he said, which is that he always gets a very quick response stating that the rumor is false, and that he didn't get any response. It was unusual enough for him to mention it on the Front Office show. Again, take it for what it's worth, I'm just providing you guys with what I've heard.Papelbon's Poutine said:
All it takes is for this guy to have 1 buddy who works for the agency that reps these guys. Maybe an intern or someone who feels cool by giving his friends the "inside scoop." People have a hard time keeping secrets when they are in the know, especially when they are young and want to show their friends how "cool" they are. You see this in the entertainment industry a lot where people like to tell you secret info they know about or what they saw a star do on-set. Or he's full of shit. But definitely one of those two. XDSoxFanForsyth said:
I appreciate the update as I don't have the MLB channel. Keep 'em coming, even if it makes Poutine mad.SoxFanForsyth said:
Now when you Google the second guy who got confirmation you get this:
Jake Wesley MLB (@mlb_nl_al) | Twitter
https://twitter.com/mlb_nl_al
The latest Tweets from Jake Wesley MLB (@mlb_nl_al). 14 year old MLB Insider bringing you MLB news,notes, player ...
Maybe they mean a 14 year mlb insider, or maybe he called someone between math homework and football.
Jake Wesley MLB (@mlb_nl_al) | Twitter
https://twitter.com/mlb_nl_al
The latest Tweets from Jake Wesley MLB (@mlb_nl_al). 14 year old MLB Insider bringing you MLB news,notes, player ...
Maybe they mean a 14 year mlb insider, or maybe he called someone between math homework and football.
I think it would be HILARIOUS if an agent were giving real scoops to a 14-year old kid. In fact, it would be AWESOME and he and the other agents could have a good laugh over it. Imagine how angry some of these douchey reporters would get for getting scooped by a kid. BTW, this entire "being first on a signing" on Twitter is annoying in the first place.snowmanny said:
Hee Sox Choi said:
While this probably means it's a kid looking to capitalize on the way the Billy Butler signing played out, it would be phenomenal if there were two deal scooped by kids barely old enough to be in high school this off season.
Hee Sox Choi said:
That kid last year Chris Cotillo broke news last year during his senior year in high school.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/young-reporter-chris-cotillo-18-gets-big-league-scoops-at-the-mlb-winter-meetings/2013/12/14/262560b2-64d5-11e3-a373-0f9f2d1c2b61_story.html
Probably not as bad as getting scooped by a 14 year old....
I think there's a pretty decent chance he's a neutral defender at third and with Bogaerts being slightly below average they'd be in decent shape. At the very least they would have a chance to be a well above average pairing overall. Over the last three years he has a -4.4 defensive component in his fWAR and 11.3 fWAR combined. A move to third may actually increase his value.
Is anybody credible picking this up? I'm not seeing it. I tend to use MLBTR as a barometer--until I see it there it's guilty till proven innocent of being BS.
Hanley started 95+ games at 3B in 2012. I seem to recall him not being very good at 3B. His UZR and DRS are in the negatives but I don't know that much about D stats so if someone with more knowledge could elaborate on the stats... :
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=8001&position=SS#fielding
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=8001&position=SS#fielding
Hee Sox Choi said:
Too small of a sample to be predictive. Generally speaking, the move to third is not one that leads to worse defense. It might take some time for him to adjust, but I'd be surprised if he's a better defender at short (similarly to the discussion about moving Bogaerts).
My dog is reporting that the Sox signed Hanley to a seven year, 200mm contract. My dog doesn't have an instagram page
The 14-year old kid just re-Tweeted it. The guy who said it first was the guy who had the Stanton deal way before anyone else. And as said above, Hanley and Stanton are with the same agency. Here's the guy's Tweets:E5 Yaz said:
https://twitter.com/DfineNrmLC
Hee Sox Choi said:
I'd accept this as validation
Tangotiger @tangotiger · Nov 14
The scoop on Stanton came from @DfineNrmLC http://deadspin.com/some-guy-scooped-the-baseball-media-on-the-biggest-mlb-1658974571/all …
IF the Hanley rumor is true, it could be a sign that X may be included in another deal leaving Hanley playing SS. But, I'm skeptical about the Hanley rumor.pdub said:
Having watched Hanley play SS this year in Dodgerland, I can say there is NO WAY the Red Sox will start Hanley at SS. He was terrible at short this year. In fact, I don't think the Sox were interested in him until his agent wisely told teams that he would be willing to play other positions. I have a lot of friends that are Dodgers fans and all of them would talk about how horrible Hanley's D was (kind of a SSS Tango Fans Scouting Report).4-6-3 said:
EDIT: Not that I know much about D stats, but I'll parrot the stats that other people here use: DRS -9, UZR/150 = -15.6 Career-wise, he's mostly been negative with most of his D stats.
It's why I'm skeptical of the rumor. Hanley is terrible on defense whether at third or short and if I recall the stories correctly, he doesn't have the best of attitudes in the clubhouse.Hee Sox Choi said:
Agree the Sox should not be targeting Hanley for SS. I don't think he's even a long term solution at 3B, though it's possible he looks better over there with more reps. But as a one/two year bridge at third, then moving over to take Papi's place at dh, I like it. Only concern would be makeup, hopefully the Sox do their due diligence.
BarrettsHiddenBall said:
I think they know the guy pretty well. Cherington was Director of Player Development during Ramirez' entire tenure with Boston.
The one thing I remember about Hanley in LF was the time he loafed after a ball that got by him and got benched. If he does that in Boston, Pedroia will chew his head off.
If Hanley and Lester sign here what are the chances of them going to get a slice of pizza with each other?
Here is my thinking, just trying to look at it logically.
This guy breaks huge huge news with the Stanton deal. Hardballtalk and Deadspin both write articles about him, his credibility is rising. Why would he go spout off a garbage rumor about nothing now?
It just doesn't make sense, that's all.
This guy breaks huge huge news with the Stanton deal. Hardballtalk and Deadspin both write articles about him, his credibility is rising. Why would he go spout off a garbage rumor about nothing now?
It just doesn't make sense, that's all.
Maybe it's a sign the Sox are out on Lester too.
Hey it's late on Sun and I'm recovering from surgery. Gotta run somewhere with this rumor.
Hey it's late on Sun and I'm recovering from surgery. Gotta run somewhere with this rumor.
Sooooo
red sox trying hard for mega free agent double play: panda and hanley. http://t.co/cp5DW9tVow
red sox trying hard for mega free agent double play: panda and hanley. http://t.co/cp5DW9tVow
Boys. We got traction.
https://twitter.com/jonheymancbs/status/536645293622976513
EDIT: DAMMIT!! I am late. And I even thought I was going to have a clever catch phrase 'Boys, we got traction'. Ugh!
https://twitter.com/jonheymancbs/status/536645293622976513
EDIT: DAMMIT!! I am late. And I even thought I was going to have a clever catch phrase 'Boys, we got traction'. Ugh!
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
red sox trying hard for mega free agent double play: panda and hanley. cbsprt.co/1rf4HkY
Bombshell. Red Sox going for both.. "Could be close to landing the FA SS"
red sox trying hard for mega free agent double play: panda and hanley. cbsprt.co/1rf4HkY
Bombshell. Red Sox going for both.. "Could be close to landing the FA SS"
heyman basically took the kid's story and added without sourcing that the Sox can go for all three guys, even though that makes zero sense. He is an agent's dream
This could be true.. It could also be a measure to float this news out there to force Sandoval's hand and make him give the Sox an answer.
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