Sepp Blatter resigns, FIFA ExCo members face extradition
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BroodsSexton said:
It already is. At least part one.
Watch the trailer for unintentional comedy gold. It includes Tim Roth as Sepp Blatter making the statement "I don't know where the money has gone...I mean I have my suspicions."
Another line: "You need the money. We need the world championship."
And another: "Blatter is apparently good at finding money."
Stuff like this is going to keep dribbling out:
https://twitter.com/McDonnellDan/status/606478128945332225
https://twitter.com/McDonnellDan/status/606478128945332225
BREAKING: Sepp Blatter says he has started work on reforming FIFA amid corruption crisis.
— The Associated Press (@AP) June 4, 2015
— The Associated Press (@AP) June 4, 2015
https://twitter.com/McDonnellDan/status/606478128945332225Titans Bastard said:
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That the Irish FA waited five years to come clean doesn't speak well of them, either. As a comment on Deadspin said:
"John Delaney is a bumbling, feckless idiot. It will not have remotely crossed his mind that he looks absolutely fucking awful by admitting this."
Seriously.
"They bribed us to keep quiet! Can you believe it?"
"Wow! Did you take the money?"
<awkward silence >
Just when we thought it could get worse, a FIFA-GERMANY-SAUDI arms deal
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jun/05/fifa-scandal-arms-germany-deal-saudi-valcke-warner-delaney-ireland-henry
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jun/05/fifa-scandal-arms-germany-deal-saudi-valcke-warner-delaney-ireland-henry
Infield Infidel said:
John Henry commented, "Astonishing. In fact, it transcends
Infield Infidel said:
This has been known for a decade.
This is what I meant when I said a long way upstream that FIFA is just going to get better at corruption, and learn to do things legally like Germans, Brits and Americans rather than with direct cash bribes.
For the record Blatter was very unhappy that Germany was able to do stuff like this to buy the world cup, and publicly complained about it at the time. He just failed to mention that he was really unhappy because they out-bribed his own supporters.
The most shocking revelation yet:
LINK: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fifa-scandal-sepp-blatter-former-5826371
LINK: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fifa-scandal-sepp-blatter-former-5826371
And now this:
http://www.espnfc.us/fifa-world-cup/story/2482914/morocco-not-south-africa-won-2010-world-cup-vote-report
Clearly, Warner got a piece of the pie from Blatter.
http://www.espnfc.us/fifa-world-cup/story/2482914/morocco-not-south-africa-won-2010-world-cup-vote-report
Clearly, Warner got a piece of the pie from Blatter.
Today's FIFA scandal news is brought to you by Guido Tognoni:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33044932
If the 2022 World Cup gets moved from Qatar, my money right now would be on Morocco - the new narrative becomes that it'd still be "the first Arab World Cup", righting wrongs from the bidding processes in both 2010 and 2022, etc.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33044932
If the 2022 World Cup gets moved from Qatar, my money right now would be on Morocco - the new narrative becomes that it'd still be "the first Arab World Cup", righting wrongs from the bidding processes in both 2010 and 2022, etc.
ConigliarosPotential said:
It could be. On the other hand, what if the investigation continues to show that Morocco tried to bribe their way to the 2010 World Cup and was just outbribed in the end by South Africa? Evidence is already pointing in that direction. Its hard to turn the page and usher in a new era of transparency by rewarding one of the countries shown to have been engaged in the corruption.
Yeah, I give Morocco a pass since they bid for literally every world cup from 1994-2010, and kept losing to bids that were sketchy in one way or another.
epraz said:
Right, it's almost a lite 'who runs the country if you arrest all the Nazis?' thing. Discrete sanctions/punishments of some kind should roll out to countries directly implicated in the investigations, but then you've just got to call a clean slate, draw a line and move forward. Anything else is too incredibly messy. If that ends up with a punished country hosting a Cup, oh well, make it a message about healing or some shit.
ifmanis5 said:
Why? The English were caught trying to bribe too. They were just the second best at bribing
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You want a way to lose any goodwill America just got, give Russia's Cup to England.ifmanis5 said:
Does Morocco have the infrastructure? Just looking at stadiumss, they appear to have 2 stadiums at 65k, 4 at 45k, 2 around 30k and several at 10-15k capacity. Seems like there again would have to be numerous stadium redos / upgrades to host this.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botola
The July temperature avg is also mid 80s to 100s. Cooler than Qatar, but I would imagine a lot of those 'cooling breaks' used in Brasil to be needed here as well.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botola
The July temperature avg is also mid 80s to 100s. Cooler than Qatar, but I would imagine a lot of those 'cooling breaks' used in Brasil to be needed here as well.
These two are related and the reason the Russia cup is going nowhere and Qatar likely the same. The rest of the world didn't rejoice over the arrests, a moderately sized minority of the nations in FIFA rejoiced. The interests of the voting blocs haven't changed, Asia, Africa, Oceania, half of CONCACAF, and a good chunk of UEFA still support the old Blatter model.DrewDawg said:
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McBride11 said:
If we're going to talk about the weather's impact on the players, you also need to account for the humidity. Some context for Jul-Aug averages:
Las Vegas, NV: 15%
Merzouga, Morocco: 20%
Doha, Qatar: 50%
Marrakech, Morocco: 50%
Casablanca, Morocco: 70%
Tangier, Morocco: 70%
Porto Alegre, Brazil: 80%
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil: 80%
Manaus, Brazil: 80%
Florianopolis, Brazil: 80%
...you get the point. I guess Morocco isn't that much less humid than Brazil, at least near the coast (inland places are, shockingly, quite dry), but there's still a difference.
John Oliver buys airtime in Trindad, with message for Jack Warner:
http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/watch-john-olivers-message-to-jack-warner-that-aired-on-1710240005
http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/watch-john-olivers-message-to-jack-warner-that-aired-on-1710240005
Real meteorologists use dew point.
The redacted Garcia report on 2018/2022 bidding, which Eckert chopped to help FIFA, noted the following English violations of FIFA ethics (LOL):
Helped a friend of Jack Warner find a part time job in England
Picked up the tab for a £35,000 CONCACAF gala
Provided excessive support for a T&T U20 training camp
Sent David Beckham to T&T for an instructional camp
Sent a squad to T&T to play a friendly
Note the lack of activities that could enrich Jack Warner. They weren't handing out bags of cash. In related news, they got two votes for the 2018 World Cup--one from their own ExCo representative.
The redacted Garcia report on 2018/2022 bidding, which Eckert chopped to help FIFA, noted the following English violations of FIFA ethics (LOL):
Helped a friend of Jack Warner find a part time job in England
Picked up the tab for a £35,000 CONCACAF gala
Provided excessive support for a T&T U20 training camp
Sent David Beckham to T&T for an instructional camp
Sent a squad to T&T to play a friendly
Note the lack of activities that could enrich Jack Warner. They weren't handing out bags of cash. In related news, they got two votes for the 2018 World Cup--one from their own ExCo representative.
I know England's obsession with hosting a WC is kind of a running joke, but the 2018 voting shows in a way how corrupt FIFA is. They tried to play the game a bit, and their bid was, from what I've read, basically the first not to assume that England should host the World Cup because that's where football comes from. Solid stadiums or plans for in each city and a distinct lack of handwaving away of concerns with "The World Cup in England! It'll be awesome!". And they did even worse than in the bidding for 2006.
Re: the English FA and its transgressions, to quote from this article...
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/world-cup-2018-fa-braced-for-fifa-criticism-over-failed-bid-to-host-tournament-9857416.html
..."a set of £239 Burberry handbags were given in October 2009 to the then 22 voting ExCo members – at the time the governing body’s only decision-makers on tournament hosts – as a gift for their wives." You've got to love England's incompetence at everything, including bribery - other countries are doling out seven- and eight-figure sums in cash, and England is handing out £239 handbags.
Anyway, England isn't getting the World Cup until the bidding process is completely reformed to prioritize technical competence more than geopolitical skullduggery - even if Russia somehow loses the 2018 event, which I can't imagine happening, there's zero chance it goes to England. Greg Dyke knows this and has ruled out England getting involved in a re-bid:
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jun/05/greg-dyke-sepp-blatter-world-cup-fifa
I do believe the odds of Qatar keeping 2022 are now less than 50-50...and 2026 is now completely wide open, insofar as that bidding process has been halted pending further developments:
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jun/10/fifa-world-cup-bidding-postponed
I suspect the 2026 bidding process has stopped in part because of the uncertainty around Qatar 2022 - if 2022 goes up for a re-bid, the parameters of that bidding process would affect 2026.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/world-cup-2018-fa-braced-for-fifa-criticism-over-failed-bid-to-host-tournament-9857416.html
..."a set of £239 Burberry handbags were given in October 2009 to the then 22 voting ExCo members – at the time the governing body’s only decision-makers on tournament hosts – as a gift for their wives." You've got to love England's incompetence at everything, including bribery - other countries are doling out seven- and eight-figure sums in cash, and England is handing out £239 handbags.
Anyway, England isn't getting the World Cup until the bidding process is completely reformed to prioritize technical competence more than geopolitical skullduggery - even if Russia somehow loses the 2018 event, which I can't imagine happening, there's zero chance it goes to England. Greg Dyke knows this and has ruled out England getting involved in a re-bid:
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jun/05/greg-dyke-sepp-blatter-world-cup-fifa
I do believe the odds of Qatar keeping 2022 are now less than 50-50...and 2026 is now completely wide open, insofar as that bidding process has been halted pending further developments:
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jun/10/fifa-world-cup-bidding-postponed
I suspect the 2026 bidding process has stopped in part because of the uncertainty around Qatar 2022 - if 2022 goes up for a re-bid, the parameters of that bidding process would affect 2026.
MentalDisabldLst said:
Nice cherry-picking. Try slapping Houston and Miami in there and see how the United States compares.
Not that I disagree that Brazil is more humid overall (the rainforest says hello, after all), but using a desert location as your US example only looks nice on the surface.
Back to your regularly-scheduled Jack Warner bashing.
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Bosoxen said:
Yes, Vegas was intended as an extreme example that a reader might have some familiarity with. We were comparing Morocco to Brazil. I threw in Qatar while I was at it. Not sure how adding a bunch of US cities would have helped the point of Morocco vs Brazil.
And of the Brazilian cities listed, the only one in, or even close to, the rainforest is Manaus.
McBride11 said:
Keep in mind that Brazil went far beyond the actual number of venues required, and now Russia is too, simply for the sake of distributing events around the country. Morocco would only need to build a new national stadium of 80,000 capacity and another 40,000 capacity (or more) stadium to get to the eight stadiums required. That's eminently feasible.
By way of comparison, look at Canada's stadiums: http://stadiumdb.com/stadiums/can. Canada is considered a serious contender for 2026 and has four stadiums of the required capacity, while Morocco has six.
McBride11 said:
Morocco is very hot, but it's Brazil or Mexico hot rather than lethally hot like Qatar. There's a big difference between 100 F with moderate humidity and 120 F with very high humidity. And that's the worst city in Morocco vs the best (and only major) city in Qatar.
Morocco would not be my first choice for a worldwide party. But for political reasons it would be a nightmare for the World Cup to be moved out of the Arab world. Morocco wouldn't be the best host, but it is a reasonable one.
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Your daily update: FIFA spokesman Walter de Gregorio cracks a joke at FIFA's expense on Swiss TV, then resigns (likely forced to)
The joke translates to:
Question: FIFA President Sepp Blatter, his spokesman and the secretary-general are all sitting in a car. Who's driving?
Answer: The police.
GJGE.
The joke translates to:
Question: FIFA President Sepp Blatter, his spokesman and the secretary-general are all sitting in a car. Who's driving?
Answer: The police.
GJGE.
ConigliarosPotential said:
At the multinational corporate executive level, a £239 handbag isn't a bribe. It's basic swag equivalent to the freebies that low-level sales guys hand out at booths at industry conventions.
England played the game like they were trying to get Boeing to move their HQ to London. Meanwhile, the real players understood that it was Straight Cash Homey that was needed to get votes.
I get that there's a Churchillian "Madam...we are haggling about the price" element to this, but there seems to me to be a major difference between something eye-catching and life-changing amounts of money. Neither is ethically acceptable if you consider all freebies to be bribes, but one is a basic cost of doing business and the other is the major factor in someone's decision-making. Hell, even my federal government customers are allowed to accept some gifts (up to $25 per year per vendor, whoo-hoo!) because it's understood that there's a level below which no idiot would use the freebie as the reason for picking the giver.
https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/609453192653332480
https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/609453192653332480
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