Revis the Patriot: Countdown to March 10th

[bankshot1]

That article sounds like it was written by Woody himself.

I got to wonder if there's not some truth to this. And if Woody wants to put the blame on the shit-fest known as the Jets, on Idzik rather than take some of the responsibility and bad-blood that seemed very evident between Revis and Jets upper management for several years (and pre-Idzik years). My concern at this point is not Revis/Jets revisonest history, but whether the Pats can sign him to a reasonable extension.

 

[dcmissle]

With regard to your concern, you'll see the greatest player auction in NFL history if we get a 4th Lombardi.  It would be in substantial part because of his efforts.  It will be the greatest because the NFL is structured in such a way that a comparably talented QB would likely never hit FA.
 
I'm sure this is a price we'd eagerly pay, but Revis would make Deion look like an amateur.  Revis always wins when it comes to money.  Always.

 

[bankshot1]

I suspect he will make a shit-ton of dough wherever he plays, but I wonder if his time with BB  and the Pats, versus the lets say the Bucs, might temper his salary demand by a modest amount. and he pulls  a semi-"Brady", to pursue a (another) championship rather than just dough.

 

[ivanvamp]

With regard to your concern, you'll see the greatest player auction in NFL history if we get a 4th Lombardi.  It would be in substantial part because of his efforts.  It will be the greatest because the NFL is structured in such a way that a comparably talented QB would likely never hit FA.
 
I'm sure this is a price we'd eagerly pay, but Revis would make Deion look like an amateur.  Revis always wins when it comes to money.  Always.

 
Then the Pats should look to re-sign him before then, right?

 

[NortheasternPJ]

It's one thing to say "Look at how good Revis has been this year for the Patriots, the bitter rivals of the Jets!  Surely, Idzik should have signed him!"
 
But:
 
A) Could the Jets afford him?  and
B) Would Revis really make any difference on that team's performance, either this year or next?   I'm going with "no."  Maybe he helps them win 1-2 more games, but they need help in so many places over the next few years, that it's just as easy to say that sinking a gazillion dollars in a multi-year Revis contract wasn't the right way to go.

 
They were what $25 million under the cap? Also to B) why sign anyone then? 
 
Revis would have made more of an impact over the next two - three years than Percy Harvin who's making a good chunk of that money. 
 
He may have saved Rex's job as well.

 

[dcmissle]

He channels his inner Boras, and I have to say that in a League in which owners don't hesitate to big-foot players, I enjoy it.
 
His inner Boras probably is telling him now that the risk of injury over the remaining 5 games -- at most -- is modest, and that he is about to hit the jackpot.
 
Takes two to tango.  I would be under no illusions of a team friendly deal beyond structuring.

 

[Ed Hillel]

Again, I wouldn't so easily rule out the Patriots picking up his option. Given his age, the Pats may be ok picking up 1/20 as opposed to something like 4 years with 60 million guaranteed. The Salary cap could rise as much as 15+ million next season, so why not? Assume it only goes up 10 million: Even if they pick up Revis' option, they are 12 million under the cap. Assume you then cut Solder and it's 19+ million. Then factor in that you can save 7 million cutting Wilfork and/or 4 cutting Mayo, another 1.6 cutting Amendola, a million on Dennard or Hooman if need be, that's going to still leave the Pats 25-35 million to work with. That leaves plenty of money to re-sign McCourty, extend Collins/Hightower/Jones, and even address LT in free agency if need be. And obviously there's the draft, as well.
 
The Pats are in fantastic position heading into next season roster wise and money-wise. I'd offer Revis something like 3/50 fully guaranteed, and if he declines it, I'd pick up his option.

 

[MentalDisabldLst]

I suspect he will make a shit-ton of dough wherever he plays, but I wonder if his time with BB  and the Pats, versus the lets say the Bucs, might temper his salary demand by a modest amount. and he pulls  a semi-"Brady", to pursue a (another) championship rather than just dough.

 
As has been chronicled here during the acquisition saga this spring, the defining feature in Revis's career, other than his excellence, is his consistent ability and maneuvering to get absolute top dollar for himself.  He leaves $0 on the table, as a rule.  You might save a few dollars by offering to fully guarantee an offer, but the NFL would probably look dimly on that sort of precedent (and, again, the amount Revis might give up for that may be incredibly close to $0 anyway).
 
The real question is whether we have the resources to match the top offer he receives - in which case I think he returns for those reasons you mention.  Playing for BB for $16M, vs a team that needs to make a splash to keep fans interested (say, Chicago or Washington, though I have no idea of their cap situations), might be a situation the Pats can win.  But I see nothing in his history that suggests that the Pats would get any sort of discount at all.
 
And why even try?  Why nickle-and-dime a difference-maker of his magnitude?  BB can save pennies with his Ayers and Casillas type acquisitions or reclamation projects.  Roster spots 30-46 would cause the team less damage from a budget cut than roster spot #2 would (or #3, if you really prefer Gronk).  If I've learned anything from following sports here on SoSH for a decade, it's that the greatest potential value to a team (as in performance minus cost) is found in superstars who aren't yet old.  Don't keep a Logan Mankins or a Paul Pierce or even a Pedro fucking Martinez past their sell-by date, surely.  But acquiring / retaining a still-in-their-prime Joe Thornton or Peyton Manning or Curt Schilling is often the best deal to be had to improve your club, despite the price.

 

[lambeau]

Revis' inner Boras is named Uncle Sean (Gilbert) who twice refused to play for the Redskins when they franchised him in '97-'98, forcing a trade. Taught young Darelle how to hold out.

 

[Morgan's Magic Snowplow]

Again, I wouldn't so easily rule out the Patriots picking up his option. Given his age, the Pats may be ok picking up 1/20 as opposed to something like 4 years with 60 million guaranteed. The Salary cap could rise as much as 15+ million next season, so why not? Assume it only goes up 10 million: Even if they pick up Revis' option, they are 12 million under the cap. Assume you then cut Solder and it's 19+ million. Then factor in that you can save 7 million cutting Wilfork and/or 4 cutting Mayo, another 1.6 cutting Amendola, a million on Dennard or Hooman if need be, that's going to still leave the Pats 25-35 million to work with. That leaves plenty of money to re-sign McCourty, extend Collins/Hightower/Jones, and even address LT in free agency if need be. And obviously there's the draft, as well.
 
The Pats are in fantastic position heading into next season roster wise and money-wise. I'd offer Revis something like 3/50 fully guaranteed, and if he declines it, I'd pick up his option.

I made a post last week somewhere in another thread that basically reached the same conclusion. Picking up the option is a real possibility, especially if the cap goes up into the 145M range.

The other advantage with picking up the option is that we could then give Revis the franchise tag in 2016, or at least use that leverage in negotiating a 2-3 year deal at that point. We can tag him in 2015 after declining the option but I'm pretty sure we could tag him in 2016 after picking it up.

 

[bankshot1]

 
As has been chronicled here during the acquisition saga this spring, the defining feature in Revis's career, other than his excellence, is his consistent ability and maneuvering to get absolute top dollar for himself.  He leaves $0 on the table, as a rule.  You might save a few dollars by offering to fully guarantee an offer, but the NFL would probably look dimly on that sort of precedent (and, again, the amount Revis might give up for that may be incredibly close to $0 anyway).
 
The real question is whether we have the resources to match the top offer he receives - in which case I think he returns for those reasons you mention.  Playing for BB for $16M, vs a team that needs to make a splash to keep fans interested (say, Chicago or Washington, though I have no idea of their cap situations), might be a situation the Pats can win.  But I see nothing in his history that suggests that the Pats would get any sort of discount at all.
 
And why even try?  Why nickle-and-dime a difference-maker of his magnitude?  BB can save pennies with his Ayers and Casillas type acquisitions or reclamation projects.  Roster spots 30-46 would cause the team less damage from a budget cut than roster spot #2 would (or #3, if you really prefer Gronk).  If I've learned anything from following sports here on SoSH for a decade, it's that the greatest potential value to a team (as in performance minus cost) is found in superstars who aren't yet old.  Don't keep a Logan Mankins or a Paul Pierce or even a Pedro fucking Martinez past their sell-by date, surely.  But acquiring / retaining a still-in-their-prime Joe Thornton or Peyton Manning or Curt Schilling is often the best deal to be had to improve your club, despite the price.

I too watched Revis battle the Jets, and hold-out, for a better contract. I understand his history.
 
However, I'm not suggesting the Pats nickle and dime him, but rather I wonder whether Revis' historical MO, is still fully operational. Can dollars be left on the table, while his legacy value increases by being associated with a SB-calibre team. There may be value to being on SNF, in prime time, in big-games. I figure he's going for more than Richard Sherman, I just don't know how much more he needs.

 

[dcmissle]

Agree regarding picking up that option.  Cap rising faster than anticipated really helps, and nobody is going to be bothered much playing for $20 MM/yr. 
 
He is irreplaceable barring a lightning strike in the draft, and nobody likely wants to go back to the way things were.

 

[Stitch01]

I'll, offer 4-1 against Revis playing out his option for the Jimmy Fund for up to $100.

 

[Ed Hillel]

I made a post last week somewhere in another thread that basically reached the same conclusion. Picking up the option is a real possibility, especially if the cap goes up into the 145M range.

The other advantage with picking up the option is that we could then give Revis the franchise tag in 2016, or at least use that leverage in negotiating a 2-3 year deal at that point. We can tag him in 2015 after declining the option but I'm pretty sure we could tag him in 2016 after picking it up.

 
I was wondering about the franchise tag in 2016, and almost made that point, but I thought of a couple things. First, my guess is that there's language in his contract that prevents that. Second, my thoughts are that there's probably a rule that you can't decrease a player's salary by franchising him. I haven't found it anywhere, but I'd be surprised if it could happen.
 

I'll, offer 4-1 against Revis playing out his option for the Jimmy Fund for up to $100.

 
Meaning that if it's signed you think he'll refuse to play? Or factoring in the odds the Pats pick it up with that? If it's picked up, I highly doubt he'd sit.

 

[MentalDisabldLst]

I too watched Revis battle the Jets, and hold-out, for a better contract. I understand his history.
 
However, I'm not suggesting the Pats nickle and dime him, but rather I wonder whether Revis' historical MO, is still fully operational. Can dollars be left on the table, while his legacy value increases by being associated with a SB-calibre team. There may be value to being on SNF, in prime time, in big-games. I figure he's going for more than Richard Sherman, I just don't know how much more he needs.

 
Right, but the difference between 1/20 and 3/50 is a lot with respect to the Pats' risk as a whole.  If he leaves after the 2015 season, we're set way WAY back in total roster talent level.  It's well worth it to explore an extension, even at top-of-market dollars, given that the alternatives are so much less proven, inconsistent, and how close we are to a championship every year that Brady remains healthy and productive.  BB stockpiles rollover cap room and contract-structure optionality for just these situations; if you don't fire those bullets for someone like Revis, you're basically saying you'll never use them.
 
But yeah, picking up the option is a real possibility.  I just think that it's a less preferable option than an extension even at FA rates, even if we have to guarantee much of it and take a huge amount of injury risk.  That's a conversation Revis is probably very willing to have, so long as they're not too far apart on what he would get in FA.
 
edit: and I, for one, would be happy paying him above Sherman dollars.  Maybe not much more, but that's a comfortable conversation for me.
 
edit2: Let me just ask though, has there ever been a top-of-market FA that BB outbid everyone else to get?  Does Ted Washington count?  Rodney Harrison?  Most of the premium talent on our rosters have been drafted (Gronk, Light, Mankins, Wilfork, Law) or have been undervalued by the other team and acquired for picks (Moss, Welker).

 

[Stitch01]

Meaning I think there's no chance the Pats pick up that option.
 
Tag rule is you have to pay 120% of salary, but since most of Revis money is roster bonus and not salary next year Im not sure how that factors in.  Also, while I think Revis happily plays under the franchise tag next year for $20MM cash, I don't think he happily plays under a franchise tag the year after for $13MM or w/e the tag number is.  If its 120% of total compensation as a minimum, then I think there's no way the Pats are franchising him for $24MM.

 

[Ed Hillel]

Meaning I think there's no chance the Pats pick up that option.
 
Tag rule is you have to pay 120% of salary, but since most of Revis money is roster bonus and not salary next year Im not sure how that factors in.  Also, while I think Revis happily plays under the franchise tag next year for $20MM cash, I don't think he happily plays under a franchise tag the year after for $13MM or w/e

 
He would sit out, but I think it's enough leverage to work out a fair deal for both sides. My guess is that his current contract prohibits it anyway.
 
Back to the important stuff, I'd take 5-1 for $50 on the condition that if Revis and the Pats agree to an extension before the trigger date of the option we call it a wash.

 

[Stitch01]

Well, no, that's a different bet, part of the reason Im saying there's no way the option gets picked up is because there are just better ways to keep him here that don't involve paying $20MM under the cap next year for 1 year. 

 

[dcmissle]

You probably are right, as this (back in March) says the cap hit for that $20 MM salary would actually be $25 million --
 
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/03/13/patriots-deal-with-revis-for-2-years-for-salary-cap-purposes/

 

[Morgan's Magic Snowplow]

Well, no, that's a different bet, part of the reason Im saying there's no way the option gets picked up is because there are just better ways to keep him here that don't involve paying $20MM under the cap next year for 1 year. 

 
The best and most likely solution is obviously to negotiate a new contract (probably in the 4/65 range) structured to bring his 2015 cap hit down to around the 16-17M level (including the 5M dead from the previous contract).  But if Revis is completely intent on hitting FA or playing for $20M cash then I can see the team deciding to just pay the $20M more for one year.

 

[Cornboy14]

I'd be surprised if the Patriots offer Revis the most money. A solid parallel is Moss after 2007 - incredible season on a 1 year contract. The Patriots didn't franchise Moss, let him hit free agency and according to reports at the time at least one team (Eagles?) offered him a bigger contract.

 

[Stitch01]

You probably are right, as this (back in March) says the cap hit for that $20 MM salary would actually be $25 million --
 
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/03/13/patriots-deal-with-revis-for-2-years-for-salary-cap-purposes/

Sorry, I wasnt clear with my numbers. I used $20MM because there's $5MM that's sunk into proration.  So his cap hit would be $25MM next year, but the decision is whether to pick up the option and get one year for $20MM incremental cap space.
 

 
The best and most likely solution is obviously to negotiate a new contract (probably in the 4/65 range) structured to bring his 2015 cap hit down to around the 16-17M level (including the 5M dead from the previous contract).  But if Revis is completely intent on hitting FA or playing for $20M cash then I can see the team deciding to just pay the $20M more for one year.

I just dont think they're going to lay out $20MM in incremental cap space next year for Revis on a one year deal.  Given the escalating cap space and the Pats cap situation/numbers/dead money, even if they decide they need Revis next year and are willing to go year to year with Revis I think there's an argument that they are better off trying to retrade something like this years deal and go with some sort of 2 year/$46MM deal with, say, $11MM of salary and $10MM of bonus and a $25MM "poison pill" due in '16 and pushing some of the cap hit out another year.

 

[dynomite]

It's one thing to say "Look at how good Revis has been this year for the Patriots, the bitter rivals of the Jets!  Surely, Idzik should have signed him!"
 
But:
 
A) Could the Jets afford him?  and
B) Would Revis really make any difference on that team's performance, either this year or next?   I'm going with "no."  Maybe he helps them win 1-2 more games, but they need help in so many places over the next few years, that it's just as easy to say that sinking a gazillion dollars in a multi-year Revis contract wasn't the right way to go.

C) Are we going to take it on faith that after a career spent on the Jets and Bucs (and no playoff appearances since 2010) his "top priority" was to return to the Jets and QB Geno Smith?

Didn't the Patriots and Revis come to terms within hours of his release? And didn't Robert Kraft say at the time that Revis took less money to come here, and that he "came to us"?

 

[MentalDisabldLst]

Didn't the Patriots and Revis come to terms within hours of his release? And didn't Robert Kraft say at the time that Revis took less money to come here, and that he "came to us"?

 
If he did, I'd be interested in seeing a source on that.  That's not my recollection, but as I've demonstrated around here, my command of details can often be fuzzy.

 

[DJnVa]

 
If he did, I'd be interested in seeing a source on that.  That's not my recollection, but as I've demonstrated around here, my command of details can often be fuzzy.

 
Sigh. Can I make a totally not snarky suggestion that you google these things before you trust your recollection next time? These are somewhat widely known things (within the arena that we're talking about) that you are saying you can't recall or never heard about.
 
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000333649/article/darrelle-revis-new-england-patriots-strike-contract
 

Just a few hours after the Tampa Bay Buccaneers released him, Darrelle Revis has agreed to terms with the Patriots on a two-year, $32 million contract, according to NFL Media's Albert Breer, per a Patriots source. ESPN first reported the news. 

 

[MentalDisabldLst]

Not that it happened quickly (not many teams would need to 'wait and see' on a player like Revis), but that Kraft said that Revis called them, and more importantly, took less money to come to Foxboro.  Some cursory googling - which I did - didn't turn anything up on that.  Needless to say, the article you linked has no such detail.
 
edit: OK, I revised my search terms a bit and found this article from March.  Kraft said,
 
 
 

"Here's a young man who really much had his choice of any team he wanted in the NFL and he came to us," Kraft said. "He could have gotten considerably more money going to other teams. He still came to us and I think he knows we're committed to winning as an organization. I really believe his priority is trying to win."

 
"could have gotten" is different from "was offered", of course, but dynomite recalls correctly that Kraft said it.  That the deal happened quickly is suggestive, but not dispositive, of the idea that Revis did not hold a bidding process and go to the highest bidder, but instead got a fair offer from the Pats and took it.

 

[dynomite]

I think he was asking about the Kraft comments, which are here:

http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24499140/robert-kraft-darrelle-revis-took-less-money-to-come-to-patriots

Edit: And Revis claimed at the time that he had offers from 26 teams. 26. Which seems... Like a lot. http://nesn.com/2014/03/darrelle-revis-on-signing-with-new-england-patriots-im-all-about-winning/

 

[Ed Hillel]

You probably are right, as this (back in March) says the cap hit for that $20 MM salary would actually be $25 million --
 
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/03/13/patriots-deal-with-revis-for-2-years-for-salary-cap-purposes/

 
You'll hear a lot of this $25 million talk on Felger and all that, but 5 million is dead money next year anyway. Revis's 12 million this year was spread over 2 years, 7 million against the cap this year and 5 next. Even if he walks it's 5 million against the cap. My numbers above still hold, as the 5 million has already been factored in. You wouldn't need to add 5 to that analysis, the Pats still all that flexibility referenced above. "Picking up the 20 million dollar option" and "Revis will count 25 million against the cap" mean the same thing.

 

[bakahump]

Its a good year for the cap to be going up...

 

[Phragle]

Its a good year for the cap to be going up...

 
Yeah if it goes up to 145-150 then that 20 million looks more like 18 million considering percentages.

 

[dcmissle]

So it would be net 20.  Thanks Ed and Stich.

 

[Ed Hillel]

So it would be net 20.  Thanks Ed and Stich.

 
Well, the net is still technically 25, but that math is already factored into the equation. It's just that the extra 5 is being footed from this year's bill into next year.

 

[soxhop411]

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis  10m10 minutes ago
There is no one close to Chris Harris at CB. He's no 1. Revis or Sherman for no 2

 

[soxhop411]

Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN  11m11 minutes ago
All quality players. Revis is No. 1 though, Mike RT @MikeKlis There is no one close to Chris Harris at CB. He's no 1. Revis/Sherman for no 2

 

[SeoulSoxFan]

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis  10m10 minutes ago
There is no one close to Chris Harris at CB. He's no 1. Revis or Sherman for no 2

At least no one is close at being a homer than Klis. Definitely no. 1.

 

[soxhop411]

Bart Hubbuch ‏@BartHubbuch  2m2 minutes ago
NOPE RT @MikeKlis: There is no one close to Chris Harris at CB. He's No. 1. Revis or Sherman for No. 2

 

[brandonchristensen]

Heh, the single, all-caps NOPE is great.

 

[TomTerrific]

At least no one is close at being a homer than Klis. Definitely no. 1.

 
Klis is the one who came on the PPGS before the NE-Denver game and breezily predicted the Broncos would blow out the Pats, and used the KC game as the basis of that prediction. When questioned further, he admitted that the KC game was the only NE game he had  watched even a tiny bit of.

 

[soxfan121]

Bedard asks good questions, Revis gives good answers.
 
1. There will be no discount. 
2. He will accept $0.01 less than the guys he listed: Richard Sherman, Patrick Peterson, Joe Haden.
3. Uncle Sean Gilbert running for NFLPA leadership is a really big factor. 

 

[Hendu for Kutch]

 
Maybe you should go ahead and label those bullet points as your interpretation of the article? Because he says none of those things. 

 
Ya, I was confused after I read the article, thought I must have missed something, because I didn't see any of those things even implied, let alone stated as fact.

 

[soxfan121]

 
Maybe you should go ahead and label those bullet points as your interpretation of the article? Because he says none of those things. 

 
1.

Many people, including myself, have viewed you as the ultimate NFL mercenary because you’re one of the few non-quarterbacks to maximize your value. Fair or unfair?
 
Everybody has an opinion. Some may view it as him having leverage, and he does well with that leverage. Some may look at it as he’s overpaid. There are a million things that can be said. The only thing I look at is, you get paid for what you do on the field. Everybody. It’s the Tom Bradys, Peyton Mannings, and it goes down the line. That’s all I ask for. At the end of the day it’s negotiations. You go back and forth, we come to a common ground, and everybody’s happy. That’s how you look at it. I just focus on what I need to do and not worry about it.
 
Why has maximizing your value been important to you? Is it still important?
 
Well, I think it should be important to every player that plays this game. You get paid for what you do. Calvin Johnson is one of the best receivers in the league, and he gets a huge paycheck, and that’s great, he should. I mean, the dude is 6-5, runs a 4.32 40, nobody cannot watch him. He’s usually getting double-teamed, he’s still coming down with balls. You get paid for how you perform, and that’s how you look at it. And it’s leverage. You have to use your leverage when you have it because that window is going to close sooner or later. That’s with anybody.
 

 
 
2. 

What’s it like to play bump-and-run coverage the way that you do and stick with the NFL’s best receives like Velcro? Are you the league’s best cornerback?
 
I think it’s great to play bump and run. You just smother the receiver. It’s kind of tough, because of the new rules and where we’re at today playing the game, so you have to use certain techniques or certain tactics to cover some of the best receivers in the world. I love it. I love to do it. I’ve been playing corner since I was 7 years old, so I just love the challenge. Am I the best? I’m past that; I’m over that question. Everybody has their own opinions, man. There are some great corners out there: Richard Sherman, Patrick Peterson, Joe Haden. I support them all.
 

 
3. 

You’re an assistant NFLPA rep, so in essence you work for DeMaurice Smith. But your uncle, Sean Gilbert, is going to be running against him. How do you deal with that?
 
I’m taking it in stride, man. It’s something new for me, and I think it’s just me growing as a player and what I’ve been through and seeing other guys going through their situations as well. And the league as well, going through our situations like the new CBA. So it’s something new. I’m not the head guy [Matthew Slater is], but at the same time, yes, I work for De Smith and I’m not picking sides. It is what it is. I can’t make a prediction on who gets the job in the future.
 
Will you be campaigning for your uncle?
 
I can’t say that either. I can’t make a prediction on that. My uncle’s doing that, I’m proud he’s doing that, and I have to support my uncle. But at the same time I work for De Smith and I have to support what De Smith is doing now, too.
 

 
FWIW, Sean Gilbert held out several times in his NFL career and is a staunch supporter of "leverage" and maximizing value. 

 

[Devizier]

"Leverage" is a good thing, since players have hardly any of it. It's one of the things I respect about Revis.

 

[Stitch01]

Revis statements aren't saying he'll taking the highest offer or that he'll settle for 1 cent less than the corners he mentioned.   I sort of see how you get to statement 1 though, I don't really see at all how you get to statements 2 and 3.  He doesn't talk about his contract in relation to those other players at all or in relation to Sean Gilbert.

 

[Red Right Ankle]

I think soxfan121 fucked up statement 2 and meant to say will "NOT take .01 less than those players."  Even given that, I agree that I'm not sure where he got 2 except maybe from the general tone of Revis's statements re: leverage.  If he feels he is better than those players (i.e. that he has more leverage), he will use that fact to max out his earnings and get more than they did.
 
Number 3 is totally out of left field.  I can see how his Giblert's prior actions and philosophy have influenced the way he thinks (and this is something people have talked about in the past), but there's nothing in that article to suggest that Gilbert taking Smith's job will affect how he negotiate.  It appears he is already inclined to maximize earnings.  It's not like he was going to take a minimal deal that might annoy the NFLPA before, but if Gilbert gets elected Revis won't because Revis doesn't want to anger him. 

 

[RetractableRoof]

Bedard asks good questions, Revis gives good answers.
 
1. There will be no discount. 
2. He will accept $0.01 less than the guys he listed: Richard Sherman, Patrick Peterson, Joe Haden.
3. Uncle Sean Gilbert running for NFLPA leadership is a really big factor. 

I think you happen to be correct about these points. But there is no way those points can be stated as fact from the article text. That isn't a summary and is misleading to those who took your word for that. I didn't go back and read the article until someone else called you on it. I took your word for it.

Your opinion or interpretation I'm buying (and do believe you are correct). Not your summary skills though.

The only way I see a discount is if some financial gymnastics occur where he can say he got the highest something... the most something - but he isn't likely going to take less like Brady to improve the team around him.

 

[Stitch01]

Im not sure that the Pats have to make Revis the highest overall offer or make him the absolute highest paid cornerback to keep him here as I don't think using leverage and maximizing value necessarily means taking the highest deal on the table no matter where it comes from.
 
I do expect Revis to do an exceptional job at getting maximum dollars out of whatever team he ends up with and expect he won't end up unhappy with whatever deal he is playing under next year (i.e. if he doesn't want to be here under the last year of his contract next year, I doubt he will be)
 
I didn't really come away from that Bedard article learning much except about the Sean Gilbert connection and a little bit about what Revis thinks about some other great cornerbacks.

 

[PBDWake]

Also, that he really likes the word "fine".
 
I honestly think Revis is a competitor. I don't expect a massive discount or anything, but if we can frontload a bonus, tweak some guaranteed dollars, and maybe keep it short term/higher AAV, I would expect us to have a leg up on, say, a team like Jacksonville pitching him the actual biggest contract if we're close. That, to me, is the way we keep Revis. By jumping on negotiations early, and limiting the term of his contract, with super high guarantees. I don't mind paying Revis the highest AAV in the league on a 3 year (4th vesting year?) with big guarantees, especially with a rising cap. The problem comes if he hits the market and a team like the Colts puts 6 years and big money on the table.

 

[soxfan121]

 
Yeah man, you're stretching on 2 and 3 pretty hard and really have nothing to back yourself up with on either. 1 is a slight stretch, but a somewhat reasonable take from trying to read between the lines. Welcome to your opinion, just saying maybe you shouldn't present it as fact like that. 

 
I refer to you the fourth quotation in the signature below and bid you good day.

 

[soxhop411]

RT @InsideNFLMedia: .@WillieMcGinest on Revis: "I expect him to never leave.I told him this will probably be his last destination."

 

[soxhop411]

 
Cornerback Darrelle Revis and the Patriots will work to extend their time together.
Revis and the Pats will get together this offseason to work on a new contract, and both sides want to continue their working relationship, according to sources. This has essentially been the plan since the summer, but they have meshed so well together that there is some optimism they could strike a new deal.
At this stage in his career, Revis’ primary desire is to win a Super Bowl, and he will turn down larger offers from teams that can’t contend for postseason glory. After all, he turned down millions of dollars in the first year of a deal to join another team that vied for his services in March when he linked up with the Patriots, and that philosophy is expected to hold true again.
Revis signed a two-year, $32 million contract with the Patriots, and he earned $12 million in 2014. The Patriots could conceivably retain him under the current terms of the deal, but Revis would eat up $25 million against the cap in 2015 and the Pats would owe him a $12 million option bonus, with $9 million owed to him March 10.
Therefore, the Patriots have until March 10 to release him from his current deal and work out a new contract, which is the desired course of action

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/the_blitz/2015/01/darrelle_revis_patriots_have_plans_to_discuss_contract_after