Revis the Patriot: Countdown to March 10th
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drleather2001 said:
Should it even be assumed that he called Belichick? I would think that the call would go to his position coach or maybe Matt Patricia. I guess that really doesn't change the story though, huh
They didn't have to file one Tuesday, because it was not an official practice day.Stitch01 said:
Interestingly, since Kyle Orton took over for the Bills, Sammy Watkins has absolutely torched every CB he's faced, except for Revis.
Kenny F'ing Powers said:
Super Nomario said:
I heard Zolak on the radio today say that Browner was in the box as a linebacker on about 15-16 plays against the Colts last week. Anyone breaking down film catch this?
I know against Denver he got some reps against Julius Thomas, especially after Welker went out and Tamme came in. Most of the time he was pressing Thomas at the line but a few times they had him drop into zone or an LB look. I haven't gone through all the Indy tape but he was definitely in coverage on Fleener a fair amount.Kenny F'ing Powers said:
Wow I'm the complete opposite. Every time I see this thread bumped I get irrationally worried about an injury. Then a complete sigh of relief when I open the thread.Ed Hillel said:
Ed Hillel said:
FL4WL3SS said:
I have the same two thoughts at the exact same time.
In related news, Revis seems like a must sign in 2015. Hope: a 'repeat-and-rinse' contract extension of another year at $12m and $20m in 2016.
I noted that Browner had coverage on the tight end while in line / tight to the formation 30 times. I did not chart whether zone or man coverage was used. But definitely utilized like a rover on a lot of snaps, giving a 4-4 type front.Super Nomario said:
Oddly enough, Browner struggled most on the perimeter - Moncrief beat Browner for a TD pass if not for an overthrow from Luck and Fleener had completions of 45-yards and 22-yards when split wide against Browner.
Now back to your regularly scheduled Revis programming...
Tucked into the Mike Reiss blog was this tasty morsel, hopefully bodes well to a long-term arrangement in New England:
Source: http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4773580/patriots-leftovers-from-san-diego-scene
Source: http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4773580/patriots-leftovers-from-san-diego-scene
I found that quote to be extremely non-committal. Seemed to me as though he is saying: All orgainizations are unique; the emphasis here is a bit different than it was elsehwere. I'm glad to be here. I'm focusing on winning every week and getting better. We're on to San Diego.
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I'll kick in if need be. Ex wife only got half of my 401k and pension, there's still another half to go around!Phragle said:
That was a clinic tonight on a very good up and coming wideout. Every single cut/start/stop he was with him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jUBbCgMWmE
The entire secondary was something else tonight. Dumpoff after dumpoff, to guys who had defenders right in front of them, because there was just NOTHING downfield. What a site to behold.
The entire secondary was something else tonight. Dumpoff after dumpoff, to guys who had defenders right in front of them, because there was just NOTHING downfield. What a site to behold.
They should have 50 million to spend with major needs at Safety, LT, middle OL, interior DL/pass rush, K, and that's it, right? Work out a deal with McCourty, franchise Ghost, Pick up the option and should have 20 mil plus the draft to address the rest.Phragle said:
I kindly request that the excellent contributors of football central go into detail regarding the brilliance of one Darelle Revis in last evenings National Football League football contest against the Chargers of San Diego.soxfan121 said:
Revis in the last few months has been everything everyone was expecing when a lot of the 14-2, 15-1 predictions were being made going into the season. Every team in the AFC should be scared to play the Pats in the playoffs. They just have to keep it going and it all starts with Revis. How he does it I don't know. But it's impressive. He shuts down almost half the field.
Appreciate the consideration and also your patience with a lowly lurker.soxfan121 said:
Fuck it's cold out today. One might even say Wintry.
soxfan121 said:
It was a joke. A clear joke. You missed it. That said, I would be happy to make a donation.
edit - how do I go about making a donation?
How do you game plan for Revis?
If you have an in his Prime Brady or Manning you drop 7 or Blitz up the middle. If you have a in his Prime Randy Moss you double or even triple cover him. If you have a in his Prime Jim Brown you stack the Box. If you have JJ Watt you double team him.
Not all of these will work 100 % of the time but you can actively do something to negate there abilities.
How do youStop Negate Revis? You dont throw to YOUR BEST WR??
He is unstoppable. How do you stop someone who cant be stopped. He is like a super hero who is the embodiment of living Carbon dioxide. Your only way to defeat him is to NOT BREATH....
He is such a weapon.
If you have an in his Prime Brady or Manning you drop 7 or Blitz up the middle. If you have a in his Prime Randy Moss you double or even triple cover him. If you have a in his Prime Jim Brown you stack the Box. If you have JJ Watt you double team him.
Not all of these will work 100 % of the time but you can actively do something to negate there abilities.
How do you
He is unstoppable. How do you stop someone who cant be stopped. He is like a super hero who is the embodiment of living Carbon dioxide. Your only way to defeat him is to NOT BREATH....
He is such a weapon.
There is no Rev said:
Oh, he got it. He was just trying to banter with you. He also happens to be a crazy person--it's all good.
That said, you don't happen to have an extra copy or two of Camtasia lying around, do you?
That didn't look like banter but it could look like the banter of a crazy person. So that makes sense. That said, let me know what it is you guys need and you can consider it done. I just need the info on what you need and where to send it to.
bakahump said:
Well, there is nothing you can do to make him not awesome, but you could make an offensive game plan that focuses on getting your #2 (or #3) receiver open. Not sure that's what GB did but it seemed so.
You send Andre the Giant and Javier Bardem out into the 2-TE set.bakahump said:
By which I mean Gronk and Aaron Henrnadez. Isn't that basically what BB went to somewhat in response to Revis on the Jets? Obviously it was partly because the talent was available to him. But it seemed like the Jets had this perfect secondary set up to counter Moss, then Moss is out of the picture and these hulking and/or murderous TE's are there and Revis is somewhat under-utilized.
I get into this a little bit in my latest Revis-lovefest for FC: http://soshcentral.com/nfl/teams/new-england-patriots/2014/12/12/keenan-allen-spends-evening-revis-island/bakahump said:
San Diego appeared to have two approaches:
1) Use Allen as a decoy to open up space. He went deep on 26 of the 34 routes where Revis covered him man-to-man, even though on the season he's only targeted deep about as much as Julian Edelman. But this opened up areas for other receivers to work, especially when Allen lined up to the (passing) weak side of the formation.
2) Align in ways that the Patriots usually counter with zone defense, then run Allen away from Revis so he ends up guarding no one.
Either way, you're still limiting your options, and you need to be able to make hay against the rest of the pass defense, and San Diego couldn't.
Allen's one catch against Revis (and the only time Rivers targeted him matched up on Revis):
Fascinating read, thanks for that.
Should the Pats expect more short splits from other teams, especially those with better OLines? Or does that have too many downsides?
Should the Pats expect more short splits from other teams, especially those with better OLines? Or does that have too many downsides?
Thank you thank you thank you thank you. Cleanup on isle my pants.
Even on that catch his lateral quickness is just insane.
Even on that catch his lateral quickness is just insane.
I can not get over how absolutely mirrored their feet are... Scroll the image down so you watch both players from their waists down and you will see reason #1 why Revis is so impressive IMO. His foot work is just unreal.
Stacking receivers is a way to beat jams/physical corners/man coverages.JohnnyK said:
There are a few of downsides to this that spring to mind. First, you put more defenders in the middle of the field. This makes it easier to disguise coverages, but more importantly it makes it easier to disguise who is blitzing/rushing the passer.
You make yourself easier to defend insofar as the offensive players occupy/threaten less of the field at the snap.
Generally the defense will also play zone. Many of the zone beaters involve attacking the deep sideline with multiple receivers (e.g. sail route vs. cover 3). You can't run those routes as effectively out of reduced splits.
Yes, you tend to encourage a team to zone up against stacked receivers (or at the very least you make it impossible to jam all the receivers since every defender must start at a different depth to avoid getting picked). The defense, however, isn't necessarily going to be as bothered since some of the zone beater route combinations are off the table/less effective.
I hope Dave will chime in with his thoughts. My football knowledge is relatively basic.
A takedown of John Idzik's inability to sign Darrelle Revis this past offseason. Great stuff.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/mehta-idzik-worts-move-letting-revis-patriots-article-1.2046555
It's one thing to say "Look at how good Revis has been this year for the Patriots, the bitter rivals of the Jets! Surely, Idzik should have signed him!"
But:
A) Could the Jets afford him? and
B) Would Revis really make any difference on that team's performance, either this year or next? I'm going with "no." Maybe he helps them win 1-2 more games, but they need help in so many places over the next few years, that it's just as easy to say that sinking a gazillion dollars in a multi-year Revis contract wasn't the right way to go.
But:
A) Could the Jets afford him? and
B) Would Revis really make any difference on that team's performance, either this year or next? I'm going with "no." Maybe he helps them win 1-2 more games, but they need help in so many places over the next few years, that it's just as easy to say that sinking a gazillion dollars in a multi-year Revis contract wasn't the right way to go.
