Red Sox Spring training thread
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The trainer on the right does not look happy about what's going on. It would be awkward to have to tell Ben about those injuries if Brock(that is Brock right?) drops him.
Brian MacPherson @brianmacp 1m1 minute ago
Red Sox starters are all wearing T- shirts with their names on the back and "He's the ACE" on the front.
Red Sox starters are all wearing T- shirts with their names on the back and "He's the ACE" on the front.
Rudy Pemberton said:
I think the insinuation is that the guy next to him is the ace. Or indeed the guy next to him... Or the guy next to the guy next to the guy next to him. Or the other guy
Hence there is no ace. And noone is claiming to be the Ace. That's the joke.
Rudy Pemberton said:
Sounds like there are two versions of the shirt: I'm the Ace and He's the Ace.
Wait that's a guy waiting for autographs, right? Right?!
Wade Miley: "So you were saying it was my day for drug testing?"
MLB OFFICIAL: "Oh hey Wade. Uhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm... you know what? We're good."
Wade Miley: "So you were saying it was my day for drug testing?"
MLB OFFICIAL: "Oh hey Wade. Uhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm... you know what? We're good."
Very true. One of my favorite Spring Training traditions is freaking out about a picture like this or getting jazzed about "best shape of his life" reports.reggiecleveland said:
UGH STOP EATING GLUTEN, WADE.
Ugh, so I guess this means he might not have any choice in missing a game to be present for the birth of his kid.
I just showed these to my wife and had her guess who it was. Her exact words, "One of your fat beer geek friends."Corsi said:
Sounds like there are two versions of the shirt: I'm the Ace and He's the Ace.
ivanvamp said:
For a team that is going to be built around Ortiz and Sandoval, thank god that is true. Bill James wrote in his book that an inordinate ammount of baseball players who were short and stocky ended up being really good players (Yogi Berra, Kirby Puckett, Mel Ott, etc.) On the flip side there is Hanley, whose physique looks, er, questionable.
According to Mastrodonato in the Herald only the guy starting that day wears the "I'm the ACE" shirt while everybody else wears the "He's the ACE" version.
I think it would also be a good idea to sit Dustin once a week. For the good of Dustin and the team.
Reggie's Racquet said:
I agree that long term its best not to bang him up too much and give him a day off when he's clearly pressing, but once a week is just bad hyperbole on anything the team would consider.
There were a ton of positives last night, as I was watching it on the Twins network. Obviously, the HR's by Pedroia and Bogaerts are great signs. Ogando throwing 95 this early in spring training is nice to see, and Barnes topping out at 97 giving hope for a young relief ace. Barnes secondary pitches though just weren't there; at this point he kind of reminded me of a poor man's version of the good Daniel Bard. Hopefully at least one of them sharpens up as the spring wears on.
Travis Shaw had a 12 pitch at bat before popping out to left field, then hung in at 0-2 against a big 3/4 slot lefty and rolled one through the middle for a hit in the 9th.
Craig, though he went 0-4, looked like he was moving well, and was clearly going all-out down the first base line on a slow roller to the infield. So, at first glance on TV, the foot seems healthier. The bat, however, was still slow: Lots of foul balls to the right side on fastballs in fastball counts.
Sean Coyle with a walk and another good at bat later on, plus a heads up steal of third base when the pitcher wasn't paying attention.
Travis Shaw had a 12 pitch at bat before popping out to left field, then hung in at 0-2 against a big 3/4 slot lefty and rolled one through the middle for a hit in the 9th.
Craig, though he went 0-4, looked like he was moving well, and was clearly going all-out down the first base line on a slow roller to the infield. So, at first glance on TV, the foot seems healthier. The bat, however, was still slow: Lots of foul balls to the right side on fastballs in fastball counts.
Sean Coyle with a walk and another good at bat later on, plus a heads up steal of third base when the pitcher wasn't paying attention.
"Playing just his second game in seven months on Friday against the Marlins at JetBlue Park, Victorino went first to third on a Daniel Nava double to left, sliding in just ahead of Don Kelly’s throw. He felt fine in the immediate surge of adrenaline, but his legs tightened later.
When he arrived at the park on Saturday morning, he knew he shouldn’t risk playing. Originally in the lineup, he’ll instead take the day off with what managerJohn Farrell described as “general soreness.”"
http://fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2015/03/07/shane-victorino-out-with-sore-legs-wonders-whats-my-problem
When he arrived at the park on Saturday morning, he knew he shouldn’t risk playing. Originally in the lineup, he’ll instead take the day off with what managerJohn Farrell described as “general soreness.”"
http://fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2015/03/07/shane-victorino-out-with-sore-legs-wonders-whats-my-problem
TigerBlood said:
And this is a guy who's been ardently rehabbing all offseason. Imagine what the mediots would have written if if had been Sandoval.
Harry Hooper said:
It's amazing how much the appearance of grit and emotion affects a player's perception. Somewhere in a tree stand in the back woods of Georgia, JD Drew is shaking his head at how lightly Victorino gets treated.
Nothing against Victorino, I love the guy and what he brought to the team, but he's made of glass at this point.
Hamstring pulls/tears can become recurrent/chronic issues and obviously this is the case with Victorino. Everything feels fine and then all of a sudden pop. I don't believe for a second that this is just generalized "soreness" as described. I would guess that he felt some significant tightness and maybe a slight hamstring pull.
I expect that the RS front office figured this possibility significantly in their mission to collect outfielders making the glut is illusory. Victorino o/u games played is probably 80. Craig probably has less than a 50% chance to regain his stroke and become a useful player. Nava even in best case scenario is a 4th platoon type OFer. Between those 3 players, the RS are probably expecting a total of 1 useful outfielder. Add to that Betts, Ramirez and Castillo each lacking in ML experience to be completely sure things results in enough depth to be fairly confident of having 3 solid players in the outfield on a regular basis. However, any perceived overabundance is a mirage.
I expect that the RS front office figured this possibility significantly in their mission to collect outfielders making the glut is illusory. Victorino o/u games played is probably 80. Craig probably has less than a 50% chance to regain his stroke and become a useful player. Nava even in best case scenario is a 4th platoon type OFer. Between those 3 players, the RS are probably expecting a total of 1 useful outfielder. Add to that Betts, Ramirez and Castillo each lacking in ML experience to be completely sure things results in enough depth to be fairly confident of having 3 solid players in the outfield on a regular basis. However, any perceived overabundance is a mirage.
In my lifetime said:
To Recap:
1) The real reason for sitting out isn't the stated reason even though the stated reason is totally plausible, but I know better because reasons.
2) Therefore the sky is falling and we're all gonna die.
Rasputin said:
The point is that there are 100s of comments about what to do with the supposed glut of Outfielders. However, this is not really the case since many of the RS outfielders on the roster have significant issues.
The second point and the one you are criticizing is that you feel we should take at face value that an athlete is experiencing normal soreness, which he felt after running from 1st to 3rd in a game. I would suggest that an athlete who has been reported to train and rehab hard in the off season, that normal soreness due to a run from from 1B to 3B is not at all typical nor "normal". My educated guess is that it is more likely that you could sub in the word tightness for soreness with a player who has a detailed history of significant hamstring injuries. You are free to disagree, but really no reason to be snarky about it.
ji oh said:
Or maybe obviously means obviously:
From a very cursory check back:
Victorino out at least 6 times over the last 3 years, missing 2+ weeks to months due to distinct episodes of starining or reaggravating his hamstring injury
May 2011 - right
May 2013 - left
June 2013 - left
July 2013 - left
Late March 2014 - Right
May 2014 - Right
I would say this qualifies as "obvious" recurrent/chronic hamstring issues (using the standard definition of obvious as opposed to the definition you teach your students as "having no evidence") .