Doesn't this have the earmark of a Tampa trade? Take a guy who may be overrated and get as many wild cards as you can for him - in this case 5?
I hope that you are right but, even if he is fully recovered from myocarditis, it seems unlikely that Rodriguez would immediately be highly effective after missing an entire season.while I don't disagree with you, I'd take ERod over all of those right now.
Not just a TB trade. A good trade for a team that needs more better prospects. Writ small, Bloom thinks Beni won't be much good, KC doesn't agree.Doesn't this have the earmark of a Tampa trade? Take a guy who may be overrated and get as many wild cards as you can for him - in this case 5?
He left out the 4th lottery ticket (the A-ball pitcher Wackowski)
I'm not a big fan of lottery tickets. I don't play the lottery - you rarely win. I'd prefer to get one decent prospects to four lower level lottery tickets.Maybe I'm an optimist, but 4 lottery tickets and Franchy for Beni seems pretty reasonable for a team that is rebuilding its minor leagues.
Bref has Beni with like 70 more plate appearances. I’m not saying Franchy is better. I’m saying it might be closer than it appears.They also have Benintendi being a full time player (vs Cordero platooning) and putting up almost twice as much WAR.
They didn't clear much, Beni is $6.6M minus $2.8M that BOS is paying, Cordero is 800K and the pitcher they signed today is $1.2M, so around $2M more space than they had yesterday by my rough calculations.Given that the Sox cleared some salary, I'm assuming they have other stuff brewing. Or one of the PTBNL is somewhat pricy. I'm all for loading up on lottery tickets. Franchy is entertaining to watch, if nothing else.
Is it being reported anywhere that the PTBNLs are not on any teams’ 40-man? Trying to get the sense whether they’re necessarily minor leaguers.I'm not a big fan of lottery tickets. I don't play the lottery - you rarely win. I'd prefer to get one decent prospects to four lower level lottery tickets.
He's a pigeon. He pops in from time to time and just shits all over the place. Always best not to feed pigeons.Or Bloom made a convincing case that Benintendi is *not* going to be better than he was in 2019, and in fact will be even worse in 2021 so let's get something for him while we can.
Too bad we can't get a successful ownership group around here.
what really felt like the Rays to me was Cordero - analytics darling who has 3 years of control, dirt cheap this year due to not putting it together yet (800k!)... low OBP, high SLG mold...Doesn't this have the earmark of a Tampa trade? Take a guy who may be overrated and get as many wild cards as you can for him - in this case 5?
Ah ya, forgot about Sawamura.They didn't clear much, Beni is $6.6M minus $2.8M that BOS is paying, Cordero is 800K and the pitcher they signed today is $1.2M, so around $2M more space than they had yesterday by my rough calculations.
So Cots had them at about 8 mil under before today - with these moves that would put them at 9.5-10mil under.They didn't clear much, Beni is $6.6M minus $2.8M that BOS is paying, Cordero is 800K and the pitcher they signed today is $1.2M, so around $2M more space than they had yesterday by my rough calculations.
Yeah there's no way we're not getting a decent prospect from the Mets when you consider what they gave up and what they received. It has to be a quality prospect.paying 40% of Beni to the Royals, and the Mets currently getting the best prospect by far in the overall deal, should mean the PTBNLs should amount to something more than the "usual" PTBNL, at least from the Mets. but we'll have to wait on that.
Yes and yes.Also, when are the numbers for the tax calculated? End of year? So could you start the year over and end up under through various moves throughout the season? (like moving an ottavino if he's doing well and the season isn't?)
From PeteAbe:Bring JBJ back now and I like this outfield a lot.
View: https://twitter.com/PeteAbe/status/1359719742265786371?s=19Bloom gives his now-standard answer on Bradley, saying they're hopeful there's a fit.
My understanding is their level of interest is more on the polite side and Bradley will land elsewhere.
This would be a lot more encouraging if we weren't talking about a 26 year old. How many guys manage to "figure it out" and become major league regulars at 26 after failing to do so previously?View: https://twitter.com/redsoxstats/status/1359695500094672897?s=21
Franchy’s stance and swing look a lot like Cano to me. Really effortless power.
This is the first move Bloom’s made I’ve been excited by. Tons of upside here and he could be a real building block.
Yeah, I'm not surprised. I'd simply be happy trading Benintendi for JBJ.
Only if you ignore the ~$800k that Mr. Franchy will need to be paid this year.Sox save just under $4 million.
Both our current DH and our previous DH.This would be a lot more encouraging if we weren't talking about a 26 year old. How many guys manage to "figure it out" and become major league regulars at 26 after failing to do so previously?
Quantity isn't always better that quality. I'd rather have a quarter than a nickel and 4 pennies.3 PTBNL’s to be exact. 5 players in total coming back for Benintendi. Pretty good job by Bloom. View: https://twitter.com/alexspeier/status/1359710397247475719?s=21
Those new scouts had better be damn good at their jobs.I think most of Bloom's deals are going to come down to scouting assessments and the development of the lottery tickets.
Done.if a mod could change title to add 3 PTBNLs and not "at least" or "developing", that would do.
Jorge Soler, J.D. Martinez, Justin Smoak, J.D. Davis, Chris Davis, Brian Dozier, Ji-Man Choi, Tyler White, Josh Bell, Randy Arozarena, Max Muncy, Dee Gordon, Allen Craig, Logan Morrison, Carlos Peña, Jean Segura, Yandy Diaz, Tommy La Stella, Colin Moran, Jeimer Candelario, Mitch Haniger, DJ LeMahieu, Teoscar Hernandez, Mike Moustakas and Charlie Blackmon to name a few. Our current plan for 1B is hoping a 26-year-old figures it out.This would be a lot more encouraging if we weren't talking about a 26 year old. How many guys manage to "figure it out" and become major league regulars at 26 after failing to do so previously?
Luke Voit and Gio Urshela too.Jorge Soler, J.D. Martinez, Justin Smoak, J.D. Davis, Chris Davis, Brian Dozier, Ji-Man Choi, Tyler White, Josh Bell, Randy Arozarena, Max Muncy, Dee Gordon, Allen Craig, Logan Morrison, Carlos Peña, Jean Segura, Yandy Diaz, Tommy La Stella, Colin Moran, Jeimer Candelario, Mitch Haniger, DJ LeMahieu, Teoscar Hernandez, Mike Moustakas and Charlie Blackmon to name a few. Our current plan for 1B involves a 26-year-old figuring it out.
There was that guy named David Arias too (okay I think technically 2003 was his age 27 season).Jorge Soler, J.D. Martinez, Justin Smoak, J.D. Davis, Chris Davis, Brian Dozier, Ji-Man Choi, Tyler White, Josh Bell, Randy Arozarena, Max Muncy, Dee Gordon, Allen Craig, Logan Morrison, Carlos Peña, Jean Segura, Yandy Diaz, Tommy La Stella, Colin Moran, Jeimer Candelario, Mitch Haniger, DJ LeMahieu, Teoscar Hernandez, Mike Moustakas and Charlie Blackmon to name a few. Our current plan for 1B is hoping a 26-year-old figures it out.
I'm curious how this works. Presumably, they have their eye on a couple guys that were discussed? What if the sox scouts look at those guys and aren't interested. Do they still negotiate for other players in the organization? It's an odd concept, particularly if they are expecting a decent asset from the Mets and not just a random A baller.As others have said. PTBNL are not what they used To be. Especially in the covid era.
there has been no MILB season in a year. So if you announce and finalize the trade/players now you are trading for wildcards even if they played in the hodgepodge MILB “season” last year.
because those players would have either played in that so called “MILB season” last Year or have not played in professional baseball in a year.
either way scouting reports for most MILB players are probably pretty outdated and I bet they(bloom/Sox) want to see how these players actually perform in legit MILB action (against other teams and not scrimmages) prior to actually trading for them. Because right now how the scouting report says they performed in 2019 could be worse or better than how they will perform this year especially with a year off for most of them.
3rd best? He was at best probably the 6th best player in the lineup. I mean their lineup has 3 or 4 guys it wouldn't shock anyone to be all stars this yearFeels like we’re paying the Royals for arguably our third best position player in exchange for a bunch of lottery tickets. Beni had fWar of 2, 4.4, and 2 the last three non-pandemic seasons. He was a top prospect before that. Why isn’t this selling low?
More likely Pillar for a couple million. I want to leave Verdugo in RF. Pillar and a cheap Swiss Army knife, probably Gonzalez fills out the roster.
This makes sense to me. You’re playing for Cordero, Renfroe and to a lesser extent Arroyo to break out if possible so you definitely want them to get as many PAs as they need. That means releasing Cordero/Renfroe from a strict platoon and shifting Kiké between 2B/CF pretty fluidly.
My guess is that the teams agreed on a list of players for the Sox to choose from mid-season.I'm curious how this works. Presumably, they have their eye on a couple guys that were discussed? What if the sox scouts look at those guys and aren't interested. Do they still negotiate for other players in the organization? It's an odd concept, particularly if they are expecting a decent asset from the Mets and not just a random A baller.