My memory has failed me. Red Averages seems to have come from babelfish translations of Spanish articles.
Not our Star Blazer: Yamamoto signs with the Dodgers for $325 million, 12 years
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This dude saying he got 9-326….coles deal was what 9-324?
So IF (big if) this is true he just edged Coles deal.
So IF (big if) this is true he just edged Coles deal.
Yep. If you dumped DR newspaper articles into older translation services, it often came back Red Averages or Average Reds. Mostly the former iirc.
Heyman reporting it’s gone to +300mm between Yankees, Dodgers, Mets.
If the Sox don’t spend a dollar this offseason I’m going to be furious. But if they sign two good pitchers for less money and years it’s overall most likely a better roster building decision.
But they gotta do something
If the Sox don’t spend a dollar this offseason I’m going to be furious. But if they sign two good pitchers for less money and years it’s overall most likely a better roster building decision.
But they gotta do something
View: https://twitter.com/jonheyman/status/1738026250537497014?s=46&t=Tl7uNH0-pxEyJtNj1BktDA
Heyman, citing “someone.”
Bidding on Yamamoto is at $300M plus. Yankees, Dodgers and Mets seen as having the best chance and someone named the Phillies as a potential dark horse.
Heyman, citing “someone.”
Bidding on Yamamoto is at $300M plus. Yankees, Dodgers and Mets seen as having the best chance and someone named the Phillies as a potential dark horse.
Running out of good pitchers left, and the teams that miss out on YY will be after these guys too.
Montgomery
Snell
Stroman
Giolito
Imanaga
Then you’ve got a big drop down to the next level of guys who are largely similar to what we have
Ryu
Paxton
Wood
Clevinger
Lorenzen
Montas
Manaea
It’s not dark yet..but it’s getting there.
(Edited to remove Gibson who had already signed, and add Clevinger and Wood).
I’ve been adamant that I think it’s going to be Imanaga plus a trade and I still feel that way.
Hopwfully they don’t panic and do something stupid, but it’s hard to imagine how they can position inaction.
I don’t think inaction is part of the plan. But plans can go awry.
Anyway, pundits are convinced the trade market will open up in January, and Sox indicated already that trade was more likely to happen than big FA signings.
View: https://twitter.com/feinsand/status/1738032862794776787?s=46&t=7XazH1NKZP26a4WUZikbkQ
Multiple reports indicate the Giants have been told they are out of the Yoshinobu Yamamoto sweepstakes, leaving NYY, NYM, LAD, PHI, TOR & BOS in the mix. Multiple sources believe Yamamoto is likely to make his decision in the next 48 hours. @PavlovicNBCS was first on the SF news.
Multiple reports indicate the Giants have been told they are out of the Yoshinobu Yamamoto sweepstakes, leaving NYY, NYM, LAD, PHI, TOR & BOS in the mix. Multiple sources believe Yamamoto is likely to make his decision in the next 48 hours. @PavlovicNBCS was first on the SF news.
My ears perk up when someone brings up the mighty Randy Bass. I lived in the Kansai at the same time he was crushing quadrangulars for the Hanshin Tigers, and on more than one occasion a local asked if I was him. At the time I weighed about 150 pounds, Bass around 250. But we both had beards, so I can see the confusion.
As for Yamamoto, I suspect I'll soon be referring to him as a front-running prick without an ounce of soul or imagination. Unless he's on the Sox, in which case he'll be Pedro's heir for a new generation.
If their plan is to go get a couple mid-rotation guys and hope they find a couple starters plus throwing Houck and Whitlock as starter options I’m going to be furious.
Looks like the Sox might be the ones going for the guy coming off his second Cy Young award. Good luck to us.
The reporting on this is just bewildering. Rare drugs and drabs that the Sox are in on Yamamoto, Cora’s smirking non-statement statement, and all logic pointing to us being in. But the big Twitter guys don’t even give us a mention. It’s been “down to” NYY, NYM, and LAD all week. But we haven’t been reported “out” either. The Giants have been reported out. We haven’t.
So what’s the deal? The Sox are just exceptionally tight lipped? Heyman, Morosi, Rosenthal and others just don’t know one way or the other? The Sox are being aggressive, but Yamamoto is just not that into us, but we provide good leverage?
So what’s the deal? The Sox are just exceptionally tight lipped? Heyman, Morosi, Rosenthal and others just don’t know one way or the other? The Sox are being aggressive, but Yamamoto is just not that into us, but we provide good leverage?
Media Rojas is the spanish name for Red Sox, so probably some automatic translator changed that into median red.
The safe bet for the major media types is to put NYY, NYM and LAD as the favorites. Basically the same as betting on the lead horse vs the field in the Kentucky Derby
Well if they do that and flounder in 4th or 5th place out of the gate the criticisms heaped on this team this summer will make the flak the Patriots are getting right now look like nothing.
Three years of crap play people will be gunning for the owners.
They will get killed if they play poorly regardless if they spend $200M on Montgomery or Snell, or $30M on Paxton and Ryu. And the opposite is true if they play well. Life won’t be any easier for Breslow if he spends a ton of money on some duds.
Oh I totally agree. Assuming they aren’t getting Yamamoto, they are going to get killed if they suck again almost no matter what.
That is literally the exact same tier of elite pitchers that they have been linked to as YY fallbacks from the very beginning. How are they running out of good pitchers left? And has been pointed out a million times, they are reported to be interested in trades, too, not just free agent signings.
Because they will be competing with other teams for their services, and the prices on these guys are not likely to be low. I know SOSH loves the word elite, but I think using it in a sentence with Giolito may be stretching it.
Regardless, if you’ve got 5-6 teams, at least, after these guys, it stands to reason that someone won’t land one.
Of course they are considering trades- but also reportedly want a cost controlled starter, not someone in the last year of a deal, and may not want to give up any other best prospects. So……
So if they get YY and Snell and Montgomery and Sparky Lyle and Roger Clemens's twilight and suck, they wont get killed?
New to the area, are you?
If they suck they get killed. If they dont suck, they merely get rocks and garbage thrown at them.
Come for the Yamamoto updates, stay for the SoSH history …
I know this because I joined not long after RA and tried to claim it as my user name. Alas, I was too late, so I just flipped the words as an homage to my dyslexia.
This is correct. “Red Averages” was the amusing translation used by ESPN Deportes.
I know this because I joined not long after RA and tried to claim it as my user name. Alas, I was too late, so I just flipped the words as an homage to my dyslexia.
This is sort of the first crack we’ve seen. Been saying that if the Sox are out they’ll leak it to get in front of the story. This may or may not be such a leak.
I shouldn’t have said elite, I agree. But it is literally the exact same group of starters AND the exact same group of non-YY teams that will be competing for them. Asking again, what has changed since this process started?
Taps the sign (we're not getting two good guys)
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/offseason-rumors.40691/post-5882801
Personally I'm excited for Imanaga. Feel like he's the game theory pick as opposed to the flashier (and riskier) YY. Imanaga is 15 lbs heavier and has been nearly as successful despite not throwing quite as hard (sits 92, maxes 96; YY sits 95 and maxes 99). As filthy as YY seems he has serious Lincecum-esque injury risk (all detailed in this great Eno Sarris piece https://theathletic.com/5128747/2023/12/12/yoshinobu-yamamoto-scouting-report-mlb-comparisons/)
Well, guys they reached out to earlier but couldn’t act on until YY’s situation was resolved (Lugo and EdRod have been re, who knows if there were others) are off the market. Whether that matters or not is kind of dependent on your POV, but I think the number of FA’s who could be considered top of the rotation starters (and to be fair, Lugo and Rodriguez are not) is down to what, Montgomery and Snell (although there’s durability concerns), and maybe Imanaga? Stroman seems like a bad fit for the market and Giolito has a lot of concerns too.
So maybe nothing has changed- but YY was always a long shot, and landing one of the few remaining potential top of the rotation starters isn’t going to be easy or inexpensive too.
A quick 8/200 deal with Montgomery or Snell could be a huge mistake or the exact move the team should make, right? Damned if I know.
So you are right, in that nothing has changed - the stated goal of adding two really good starters was never going to be easy.
Well, that leaves the Yankees in direct competition for what’s left - perhaps they reunite with Montgomery or pull of a deal for Burnes? (I guess this is no different than had he signed with NY, and LAD was still looking for SP…)
Much ado about nothing, it seems.
Good outcome for the Sox. Wow, the pressure on LA this season is going to be intense. Anything less than a title will feel like a massive disappointment.
Good outcome for the Sox. Wow, the pressure on LA this season is going to be intense. Anything less than a title will feel like a massive disappointment.
If the Dodgers news is true, I'm honestly a little relieved. Even if the long-term contract doesn't pay full dividends (eventual age-related decline, injury), he's likely an ace pitcher now, and as a sports fan I can't see beyond the next year or two...and it would have made me miserable if he were a Yankee for the next couple of years. Still wish he were signed by the Sox, but I'm relieved.
Now let's get on with the offseason!
Now let's get on with the offseason!
Weird place for the league right now. Attendance issues. TV issues. But one team has signed two players for $1 billion.
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MLB source confirms the @JackCurryYES report: Yamamoto is going to the Dodgers, meaning LA has now added Shohei Ohtani, Yoshinobu Yamamoto, and, oh by the way, Tyler Glasnow in the same offseason. Bonkers!
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MLB source confirms the @JackCurryYES report: Yamamoto is going to the Dodgers, meaning LA has now added Shohei Ohtani, Yoshinobu Yamamoto, and, oh by the way, Tyler Glasnow in the same offseason. Bonkers!
My daughter just called me and laughed at me for believing Henry would go make such a big move. She questions whether Henry has ever even heard of Yamamoto. She is brutal. So, I brought up Montgomery & Snell. She asked if we have to do this all over again for them or can we move to the budget level players. I am still not giving up on Yamamoto, but I am having a hard time staying optimistic.
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