Would be better if he was on the PBABol Bol is an amazing name.
Would be better if he was on the PBABol Bol is an amazing name.
He only got those numbers because he teammates were allowing him to pad his stats.Curry with more rebounds tonight (13) than Tristan Thompson has had the whole series (11).
They literally take a bunch of quick-triggered threes with hands in their face all the time. I know you are a GS fan and all that, and they do make a ton of tough shots and it's a delight to watch, but they take more "huh?" shots than any other team in the league.This I don't get.
They're good shooters. They don't try to draw fouls. The move the ball and shoot and pass well when available.
Not hero ball. Not begging for whistle ball.
You're a top 3 poster in the NBA/NFL/CFB fora here, but please go and look at the 1993 NBA Finals.For all the love that Kevin Love got tonight, he was basically Marcus Smart. Making plays all over the place, but 1/9 from the floor, including 1/7 from 3 point land, for 9 points. He's their third option and a huge part of their offense. Can't have that.
Plenty of blame to go around, but I've been saying it since game 1, Lebron has to be more selfish, especially in crunch time. He's playing as good as he's ever played, but if his teammates can't rise to the challenge, he has to do it himself. MJ never would have let Korver take that shot, and then Kyrie take the next one. He's putting that shit on his shoulders.
Hey at least he showed up.LeBron at the presser: They made shots we didn't. Miss/make league. Digging deep into the cliche bag.
Cavs starting 5 draft positions:The Cavs should get 5 all stars, too.
WTF are you talking about? riboflav knows more about basketball than pretty much everyone in here, and certainly more than you.Nope. You just turned the only reasonable strategy to beat the Warriors into a referendum on the state of a league you clearly don't watch.
You talking about the John Paxson jumper? Jordan didn't pass the ball to him, and I'm willing to bet he never would have in that spot. You know that 3 pointer from Paxson was the only points scored by the Bulls in the fourth quarter by someone other than Jordan?You're a top 3 poster in the NBA/NFL/CFB fora here, but please go and look at the 1993 NBA Finals.
that's precisely why they're right.Exactly. Which is what folks here are complaining about.
Exactly. HORACE GRANT had the ball.You talking about the John Paxson jumper? Jordan didn't pass the ball to him, and I'm willing to bet he never would have in that spot. You know that 3 pointer from Paxson was the only points scored by the Bulls in the fourth quarter by someone other than Jordan?
Sure, there were games here and there where someone else made the final shot, but by and large, when the game was on the line, MJ did it himself. And he certainly wouldn't have been looking to pass it off for a 3 pointer, when his teammates were something like 7 for 33 from 3 point land at that point in the game. Jordan was the assassin that Durant is becoming. Lebron could be that guy, and he has been in series past. For some reason, he wasn't tonight.
Something something cock holsterWTF are you talking about? riboflav knows more about basketball than pretty much everyone in here, and certainly more than you.
Which would be dumb because Love has been outstanding for them this playoffs.And 28-3.
I predict LeBron throws Love under the bus and then trades him off the team.
Yeah, because Jordan had something Lebron doesn't have. A coach who calls the plays. Phil Jackson called the play. If there was no play call from arguably the greatest coach of all time, who do you think would have taken that shot?Exactly. HORACE GRANT had the ball.
LeBron is going sign for the minimum to play in GS.
They really need Chris Paul and his skill setLeBron is going sign for the minimum to play in GS.
Everybody is coming to GS! The Banana Boat is going to the Bay Area!They really need Chris Paul and his skill set
You're contradicting yourself. If MJ wasn't calling his shots, or at least the game-deciding ones, because of Phil, then you can't give MJ credit for the shot-calling.Yeah, because Jordan had something Lebron doesn't have. A coach who calls the plays. Phil Jackson called the play. If there was no play call from arguably the greatest coach of all time, who do you think would have taken that shot?
Lebron has no such restrictions. IMO, he needs to be more selfish. His teammates aren't getting it done, and they haven't been all series. Durant is literally taking the games over down the stretch. Lebron needs to do the same.
Yes, but being tired can be an acute thing too. I'm not sure that I would have used the term "gassed", because they looked pretty good to me. But it's certainly believable that GS had more left in the tank at the end, and it could explain why they stopped attacking the rim despite being so dominant.Here comes the gassed argument even after Cleveland swept Round 1, waited 8 days to start Round 2, swept Round 2, waited 10 days to start the ECF, won the most lopsided 5 game series you will ever see and got a week off before the Finals started.
How will the Cavs manage in Game 4 in crunch time when it is the only game in the Finals with 1 off day beforehand?
I understand your skepticism but the reality is that there is plenty of data to back up the concept of players succumbing to fatigue.Here comes the gassed argument even after Cleveland swept Round 1, waited 8 days to start Round 2, swept Round 2, waited 10 days to start the ECF, won the most lopsided 5 game series you will ever see and got a week off before the Finals started.
How will the Cavs manage in Game 4 in crunch time when it is the only game in the Finals with 1 off day beforehand?
I don't know about you, but having to play 45 minutes, needing to score 40, and then defending Durant/Curry on the other end for much of it, would have even world class athletes tired.Here comes the gassed argument even after Cleveland swept Round 1, waited 8 days to start Round 2, swept Round 2, waited 10 days to start the ECF, won the most lopsided 5 game series you will ever see and got a week off before the Finals started.
How will the Cavs manage in Game 4 in crunch time when it is the only game in the Finals with 1 off day beforehand?
You never see a single player on GS beg for a whistle. Nope, they play the right way, with the best players. Top men.This I don't get.
They're good shooters. They don't try to draw fouls. The move the ball and shoot and pass well when available.
Not hero ball. Not begging for whistle ball.
I hope my sarcasm meter is broken because there's not a single NBA player that doesn't whine for fouls. Curry is a big whiner, Durant too. Any player that regular drives to the basket is a whiner.You never see a single player on GS beg for a whistle. Nope, they play the right way, with the best players. Top men.
Top men should have been a clue I was being sarcastic. Any team with Draymond Green on it does not get to complain the other team whines.I hope my sarcasm meter is broken because there's not a single NBA player that doesn't whine for fouls. Curry is a big whiner, Durant too. Any player that regular drives to the basket is a whiner.
Glad it was my sarcasm meter broken. [emoji1303]Top men should have been a clue I was being sarcastic. Any team with Draymond Green on it does not get to complain the other team whines.
Feel free to make the argument that the Cavs have better players, if you'd like to.Cavs starting 5 draft positions:
1, 1, 4 ,5 ,18
Warriors starting 5 draft positions:
2, 7 ,11, 35, 42
Even a casual sports fan watching the 1st quarter would have been amazed at seeing Lebron desperately crashing all over the place. I think the plan was to use that intensity to open up a lead and then to hold that lead with the defense they deployed in the second half, while giving Lebron something of a rest. Just didn't pan out that way.I don't know about you, but having to play 45 minutes, needing to score 40, and then defending Durant/Curry on the other end for much of it, would have even world class athletes tired.
But that has nothing to do with the style the Cavs, or the rest of the NBA, play. The notion that this series will somehow kill "hero ball" ignores that it's been largely dead for years now. The Cavs are pushing the strategy everybody agrees they should push this series. And they aren't even doing a great job of it, the pace is WAY too fast for them to win. They're not a hero ball team. They're just doing what they have to do to compete with a 73 win team that added an MVP and top 2 player.that's precisely why they're right.
Warriors best strategy to beat Cavs or anyone else is to play beautiful basketball.
Cavs best strategy to beat Warriors or any other skilled team is to bruise them.
And yet he thinks a league whose best teams are Golden State, San Antonio, Houston, Boston, and Cleveland is rife with hero ball. The league has shifted drastically over the last 3-4 years. Hero ball died already.WTF are you talking about? riboflav knows more about basketball than pretty much everyone in here, and certainly more than you.
You left out Draymond, who is likely the worst offender in the entire NBA in terms of over the top whining.I hope my sarcasm meter is broken because there's not a single NBA player that doesn't whine for fouls. Curry is a big whiner, Durant too. Any player that regular drives to the basket is a whiner.
What was the last "hero-ball" team to win a title? The 2010 Kobes? Even that is fairly debateable.To the death of hero-ball and bully-ball. And to the death of the NBA refs deciding games. I hope in 10 years, everything is like GSW. Stylistcally, the NBA needs it.
It was awful, and I'm guessing that the 44 minutes played made him marginally more prone to mental lapses of that kind.I just don't understand how someone that has played basketball his entire life does not understand the game situation and how you absolutely had to go for a 2 on 1. He had 10 seconds of dribbling, he didn't even need to really rush to make it happen. That's Andy Reid level clock mismanagement.
Harden, IT, Kyrie, Durant and Curry at times, all say hi. I'll grant you that Spurs don't really play hero ball.And yet he thinks a league whose best teams are Golden State, San Antonio, Houston, Boston, and Cleveland is rife with hero ball. The league has shifted drastically over the last 3-4 years. Hero ball died already.
Oh, I see. You don't know what hero ball is. The guy running D'Antoni's offense and who lead the league in assists is paying hero ball.