£88m bid by City for Lucas Paqueta, sounds like that'll eventually get done. Edson Alvarez also official for WHU
Life is a Beach - Summer 2023 Transfer
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"There is said to be a disagreement between Harry Kane and Tottenham about the transfer. Bayern are puzzled."
Maybe he and Levy can't agree on what part of the £ 100M Kane will be getting personally?
Kane makes £ 10.4M / yr (€ 12.0) at Spurs, tied for most on the team but not by a lot, and only 23rd highest salary in the EPL. That would be the 9th highest at Bayern. I assume he would be getting a raise to say yes to the transfer, and the question might be "by how much". If you're spending 100M just to get him this year rather than next year from Spurs, surely you can afford to at least get him up to Coman / De Ligt money at € 16-17 or so, if not quite the € 20-21 of Muller and Neuer.
Maybe he and Levy can't agree on what part of the £ 100M Kane will be getting personally?
Kane makes £ 10.4M / yr (€ 12.0) at Spurs, tied for most on the team but not by a lot, and only 23rd highest salary in the EPL. That would be the 9th highest at Bayern. I assume he would be getting a raise to say yes to the transfer, and the question might be "by how much". If you're spending 100M just to get him this year rather than next year from Spurs, surely you can afford to at least get him up to Coman / De Ligt money at € 16-17 or so, if not quite the € 20-21 of Muller and Neuer.
I'm really going to have to reassess Paqueta after this. I trust City and Pep's scouting (thank you capt. Obvious) and that seems like a WILD overpay IMO
Yeah, I don't get this either. He had .25 npxg+xa/90 in 2700 minutes last season at age 24. He put up decent numbers in previous years at Lyon but it's hardly like he set Ligue 1 on fire.
It seems very un-City in general. They're usually very good with succession planning, identifying and moving on targets early, and then not overpaying.
Pep's record of getting the best out of players is incredible but Paqueta feels like a player not really at the same level as the talents that have occupied the attacking midfield and wing roles for City since Pep really got them going (KDB, Bernardo, Gundogan, Mahrez, Grealish, Foden, Sterling, Sane, etc).
Last minute bidding war for Caicedo, claims Fabrizio.
When the dust clears, it'll be interesting to find out how much of this was real and how much smoke. And, if real, whether Liverpool was laying in wait the whole time to gazump Chelsea on Caicedo if the opportunity arose while Chelsea was laying in wait to gazump Liverpool on Lavia!
View: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1689699234742697984
When the dust clears, it'll be interesting to find out how much of this was real and how much smoke. And, if real, whether Liverpool was laying in wait the whole time to gazump Chelsea on Caicedo if the opportunity arose while Chelsea was laying in wait to gazump Liverpool on Lavia!
View: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1689699234742697984
Nothing like a good old fashioned bidding war … BHFC must be ecstatic over this.
Loser gets Lavia (plus £50m in the bank)
This is probably a better fit for the USMNT thread, but I'm hoping they end up with RAM and McKenzie missing out. A destroyer, an advancer, a creator.
It was reported by Sky Sports that Pep had tried to get him last season before West Ham got him?
Sky Sports was also reporting earlier that Kane was "likely to stay"
Does Darmesh have good sources?
88m bid is only coming from some rando Brazilian account that has been throwing out different bid amounts that allegedly have been rejected for a couple days...I would put the chances of it being real at... 0.00001%. The more reputable sources in Europe say Man City checked in with a verbal offer of either 60 or 70m and maybe a loan or loan to buy on one of their youngsters (Palmer?).
Either way my guess is it's just posturing to push through AM deals they want more. Paqueta will stay another year and if it is like the 2nd half of last year someone probably makes an offer close to his release clause.
Everton sign 19 year old, 6’4” striker Toussef Chimenti from Sporting.
Raw as sushi, 3 goals on 17 appearances for Sporting last season, but the right kind of player to get to sub for, spell, or replace DCL if he can’t stay fit. Having 5’4” Neal Maupay as the backup for an attack built around a big target 9 was ludacrisp.
So Toffees brought in Ashley Young who can play both fullback spots - and my concerns about his age have been satisfied by the eye test and by the Villa fans who swear they’d have him back in a heartbeat. Danjuma, the winger who never got a runout at Spurs, and this guy, with Gionto supposedly pushing hard to get to Everto, and out of nowhere a big pushfor Hugo Etitike from PSG. All very young and unproven (except Young, who’s old) but if you’re Everton that’s what you get and it’s what you should be getting. Still need a CB and need to do better on the outgoing but I’m having to admit that the business so far seems decent.
Raw as sushi, 3 goals on 17 appearances for Sporting last season, but the right kind of player to get to sub for, spell, or replace DCL if he can’t stay fit. Having 5’4” Neal Maupay as the backup for an attack built around a big target 9 was ludacrisp.
So Toffees brought in Ashley Young who can play both fullback spots - and my concerns about his age have been satisfied by the eye test and by the Villa fans who swear they’d have him back in a heartbeat. Danjuma, the winger who never got a runout at Spurs, and this guy, with Gionto supposedly pushing hard to get to Everto, and out of nowhere a big pushfor Hugo Etitike from PSG. All very young and unproven (except Young, who’s old) but if you’re Everton that’s what you get and it’s what you should be getting. Still need a CB and need to do better on the outgoing but I’m having to admit that the business so far seems decent.
Kane to Bayern has hit “Here We Go” status. Now let’s see if other strikers begin to move.
View: https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1689886027563823105?s=46&t=XvGOrrWIyL-5CHVVL_0JYQ
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Well today has been Wild.....
Kane approved to go for Bayern physical... then apparently not approved?
Caicedo record bid from Liverpool.... but may only want Chelsea?
Tyler Adams to Chelsea now maybe off?
Reputable sources (and a vague Moyes comment) not saying that City have bid for Pacqueta and it is looking like a deal over 90m will happen?
Kane approved to go for Bayern physical... then apparently not approved?
Caicedo record bid from Liverpool.... but may only want Chelsea?
Tyler Adams to Chelsea now maybe off?
Reputable sources (and a vague Moyes comment) not saying that City have bid for Pacqueta and it is looking like a deal over 90m will happen?
I would love to see Jonathan David move to WHL, but frankly I think Spurs roll with what they have up top and if they bring in anyone else it's a CB or perhaps a 10 to backup Maddy/GLC.
ESPN now reporting that Brighton might come in for Adams if Caicedo ends up going out. That would be just about a perfect landing spot, so here's hoping.
The Caicedo saga is fascinating - Tony Bloom made his money playing poker (amongst other things) and he's definitely doing that right now. The little side plot about Adams coming to Brighton is a cherry on top. I'd be gutted but if Brighton end up with Adams plus, say £140m to "rebuild" their midfield and invest in other players, it's only going to help them grow.
Minor transfer but of import to USMNT fans. Jonathan Gomez has been loaned to Mirandes for the season. He’s probably too good for the Spanish third tier where Sociedad B play but not good enough for the big club. Mirandes are in the Segunda.
View: https://twitter.com/cdmirandes/status/1689971089730916352?s=46&t=XvGOrrWIyL-5CHVVL_0JYQ
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That would be awesome. No doubt Adams would do great a mid-table side like Chelsea, but Brighton are in Europe, so there will be plenty of minutes available there, even if they are a more talented squad than the Londoners.
I want him at West Ham so bad. If Moyes is gonna play defensive, I want the CONCACAF THUNDER double pivot.
USMNT and El Tri fans being forced to root for West Ham while Adams and Alvarez exchange 50 passes a game between them week-in and week-out would certainly be an emotional roller coaster of cognitive dissonance.
If I'm dreaming, I'd at least prefer the Brighton rumors. I've been able to stop hating Brighton ever since they got rid of the loathsome Maupay.
If I'm dreaming, I'd at least prefer the Brighton rumors. I've been able to stop hating Brighton ever since they got rid of the loathsome Maupay.
Kepa to Real Madrid on a season long loan with no obligation to buy. Madrid open their season in a few hours at Kepa’s boyhood club.
View: https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1690401223168380928?s=46&t=XvGOrrWIyL-5CHVVL_0JYQ
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In a shocking twist to the Mbappe saga, the player has been welcomed back to the PSG squad. This was always going to be the case.
https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1690687285728022529?s=46&t=XvGOrrWIyL-5CHVVL_0JYQ
https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1690687285728022529?s=46&t=XvGOrrWIyL-5CHVVL_0JYQ
And now there is reporting that he will extend for an even more obscene contract - FFP be damned.
Can't wait to watch the next installment of this telenovela next summer.
To your point, rumors are that the proposed contract would have a player option again and allow him to move for a free after one additional season, so yeah.
View: https://twitter.com/EvertonBlueArmy/status/1691013050000674816?s=20
jack Harrison to Everton on a straight loan, no buy option. Almost gazumped by Villa- the real time tweet streams from all the ITKs yesterday was pretty funny. He’s hurt atm and won’t play for another couple weeks.
jack Harrison to Everton on a straight loan, no buy option. Almost gazumped by Villa- the real time tweet streams from all the ITKs yesterday was pretty funny. He’s hurt atm and won’t play for another couple weeks.
Neymar is going to Saudi for circa 90-100m euro.
Incredible deal for PSG, who have been praying to get out from under that contract for years.
I can't blame Neymar for cashing in but its a little sad that his club career at top level is effectively over. Brilliantly talented player. I would have liked to see him change to another big club and give it one more crack.
Incredible deal for PSG, who have been praying to get out from under that contract for years.
I can't blame Neymar for cashing in but its a little sad that his club career at top level is effectively over. Brilliantly talented player. I would have liked to see him change to another big club and give it one more crack.
I can't believe Neymar is 31, personally. He's always had a "forever young" image in my head. Perhaps because his game is built off of otherworldly speed and quickness. It's a testament to his work ethic that he's maintained that skillset into his 30s. But I certainly wouldn't want to be the big club that bet on it continuing for another 3-4 years.
The bolded is true, but even for this culer I find him one of the most unlikeable best players of his era.
His last full healthy season was when he was 24 years old; so I don't really think this was true. He was still very productive when he did play, but he really never could stay healthy after leaving Barca.
Harrison is English, but he played in the US for the Berkshire School in Massachusetts, Black Rock FC (also in MA) Wake Forest, and NYC FC, so he is kind of an honorary American.
I don't think that there are many Premier League players who played high school soccer in Massachusetts.
Tyler Adams has rumors swirling around, from Liverpool to Bournemouth
https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1691156689624375296?s=46&t=XvGOrrWIyL-5CHVVL_0JYQ
https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1691156689624375296?s=46&t=XvGOrrWIyL-5CHVVL_0JYQ
Romeo Lavia decides to join Chelsea over Liverpool - The Athletic
Is Gallagher next to leave Chelsea?
Is Gallagher next to leave Chelsea?
Am I correct that Chelsea's midfield three cost over a quarter billion dollars (euros, whatevs) in transfer fees?
Will be interesting to see who Chelsea sell off due to squad bloat in coming years. Remember, this is the same club that had & passed off KDB, Salah, Felipe Luis, young Lukaku, Cuadrado, and more. The scouting and recruiting are second to none. But there’s only so many minutes to distribute.
Just look at the teenaged mids Chelsea has signed in the past year, the cheapest of which was for €12.5m - Andrey, Lavia, Casadei, Chukuwuemeka, & Ugochukwu. At any other EPL club - from City on down - a teenager bought for that much would be getting bedded in with a regular rotation role. But at Chelsea, there’s barely minutes to see the pitch this season. (Casadei is joining Leicester on loan.)
At least one of these dudes is going to move along to an Italian or French club, break out, and come back to the EPL. Maybe Chelsea will get a sell on clause in there and reap some benefit.
Just look at the teenaged mids Chelsea has signed in the past year, the cheapest of which was for €12.5m - Andrey, Lavia, Casadei, Chukuwuemeka, & Ugochukwu. At any other EPL club - from City on down - a teenager bought for that much would be getting bedded in with a regular rotation role. But at Chelsea, there’s barely minutes to see the pitch this season. (Casadei is joining Leicester on loan.)
At least one of these dudes is going to move along to an Italian or French club, break out, and come back to the EPL. Maybe Chelsea will get a sell on clause in there and reap some benefit.
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Amortization!
I'm assuming Boehly will not mirror Roman and forgive a multi-billion receivable from the club when he exits.
Why don't Wolves and Everton pull a Boehly? Everyone should be doing this. Is Boehly that persuasive where he can get the sellers to take installments?
I'm not following Wolves or Everton, but it appears like Chelsea are paying top dollar. It is easier to accept installment payments when you are selling at a total big premium.
For Enzo, they convinced the player to push for the move. For Benfica, they paid the release clause; but there would be installments for FFP or liquidity reasons. I don't think the installments affect the accounting. They wanted Enzo last January, before new FFP rules kicked in, so they can prorate expense over 8.5 years vs the new 5 year limit
My understanding was that by effectively tanking out of European competitions, they are not beholden to the UEFA 5 year limit on amortization -- might be mistaken but would explain the velocity and magnitude of this latest spree
The thing about Chelsea is that they moved a ton of a people in the off-season. Pulisic, Kante, Havertz, Mount, Ziyech, Kovacic, Loftus-Cheek, Aubameyang and Jorginho. They spent all that money on a crazy spree over the last few years on attacking players and basically have nothing to show for it, and that isn't even counting names like Timo Werner or Lukaku, who they either sold before the start of last season, or no longer have a place on the team.
Now they have like, the same problem but instead of a bunch of wingers and attacking players, it is midfielders, but even then I don't think the glut is quite as bad as it was at the start of last season.
What is truly remarkable is Chelsea changed ownership, going from one of the most free-spending, radical owners in the history of professional sports, to someone else, who incredibly, spends money basically the exact same way and churns through managers at the same rate to boot! Remember when Roman was going to have to sell Chelsea and people speculated this would be the end of Chelsea as a top spender?
Now they have like, the same problem but instead of a bunch of wingers and attacking players, it is midfielders, but even then I don't think the glut is quite as bad as it was at the start of last season.
What is truly remarkable is Chelsea changed ownership, going from one of the most free-spending, radical owners in the history of professional sports, to someone else, who incredibly, spends money basically the exact same way and churns through managers at the same rate to boot! Remember when Roman was going to have to sell Chelsea and people speculated this would be the end of Chelsea as a top spender?