General Offseason Thread.
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For sure.
He will barely play with some pseudo injury and then demand a trade mid-season now that he got the $ he was looking for.
Now that would be hilarious. Followed by the Pacers attaching first round picks to Brown next summer to get off the contract.
Team option for year 2 which changes everything, not a bad deal for a team that needs to spend something.
really critical for teams to hit the salary floor with the new CBA. You lose a ton of money if you don't
get ready for a seemingly insane deal from HOU, they're way below the floor, they supposedly are offerring FVV a huge 2 year deal, but rumor is TOR might keep him on less AAV by going 4 years.
After him basically every player worth signing to a big deal is restricted...so huge 1-2 year deal for DeAngelo Russell? Max offer to a restricted guy (Reaves, Grant, Washington?) maybe they eat a contract, but who is looking to pay to dump one that hasn't already?
After him basically every player worth signing to a big deal is restricted...so huge 1-2 year deal for DeAngelo Russell? Max offer to a restricted guy (Reaves, Grant, Washington?) maybe they eat a contract, but who is looking to pay to dump one that hasn't already?
I love this because you just know Kyrie didn’t want to end up here but he did this to himself - he’s out of options…for now.
I look forward to the future trade demands and other general chaos which is soon to come their way.
They’ve been linked to PJ Washington, so my guess is that’s where the money will go.
Maybe, but... have to go so high that CHA won't match and it ties you up for 24 hours during which other guys will sign.
Honestly.... wonder if they strike out everywhere then offer to take Ben SImmons for a future 1st
They will need 2 or 3 contracts that size most likely to reach the floor. Got to be some trash contracts they can get
Grant is hoping that everyone ahead of him in the pecking order gets matched lol.
I’m not sure that $78 million is the going rate for a #1. Simmons is bench fodder at this point. He would get Houston to the floor, but if Udoka got the Rockets back on track and they became a viable player in the market, they’d be limited by that deal.
There's always a bigger idiot.
Mark Cuban is high on the list of people I thought were much smarter than they actually are.
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Jingles gets 2/22 (Team option) to be a shooter and vet for Orlando
Jingles gets 2/22 (Team option) to be a shooter and vet for Orlando
Yeah, but with basically only minimum money available. Getting a bunch of playable guys is a big win
You think letting Kyrie walk for nothing and losing the salary slot is smart? Losing Brunson was a far worse transaction for this organization.
were those the 2 options.... sign Kyrie to that deal or he goes to Houston.... because I REALLY don't think they were
Edit- also, as always with Kyrie, the mistake was adding him in the first place.
Nope. And they spent the assets to get him. You have to actually give it a chance. I know they didn't play well together down the stretch, but they need to see what it will look like with a camp etc.
Lots of dumb decisions going back a long time.
Re: Kyrie, of course not, but they were bidding against themselves. There was no market for Kyrie. It was so barren they had to pretend to schedule a meeting with Phoenix.
What were Kyrie's options is my point. They gave him a huge deal with a player option. The only other place that could give him a significant offer was HOU, and neither side showed even the slightest interest in that. Kyrie's flirtations were all with S&T destinations like PHX... the Mavs SHOULD have leverage there. Instead they gave him a very player friendly offer 5 seconds into FA. I would expect a more team friendly deal to have been their intial offer, and to explore S&T if Kyrie won't sign it.
Of course all of this stems from trading for him in the first place on the idea of:
If they can figure out the end of game sequences they are a pretty good team. All those 4Q leads then neither knew who was supposed to be the aggressive shot maker. Every game ended with uncertainty....they didn't really play bad aside from that.
I doubt this was decided 5 seconds into FA but rather agreed upon last winter prior to the trade being completed. It was already done once Dallas decided to make the deal.
I mean possible (though they could have always pulled a Morey), but yeah to me it seems like a terrible idea, I thought it was a bad trade, and then you're bidding against yourself, then you're giving a guy like Kyrie extra control on the 3rd year.... it's just not at all a well thought out plan. Which is almost always the case with Cuban, who is sneakily one of the worst owners in the league, no plan, just vibes and twitter fights
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Pels didn't exercise the option on Herb to get him on a long term deal earlier, got a nice reasonable 4/54
Pels didn't exercise the option on Herb to get him on a long term deal earlier, got a nice reasonable 4/54
That seems like a HUGE bargain looking at some of the other contracts signed today and the murky future in NO.
Yeah I assume it was a package deal... We turn down your super-cheap option and you give us a solid discount, like baseball teams buying out arbitration years
Portland saw the Tobias Harris deal from a few years ago and said yeah, that's 100% the way to go.
I'm glad they did it, it means they really don't want to trade Dame (this is a terrible deal with Lillard on the roster, but twice as bad if they trade him and spend the next couple years rebuilding around Scoot), which makes it less likely that Dame ends up in Miami. Not sorry at all to see Vincent/Strus leave, with Martin being the only one left at a reasonable rate.
consensus was they had agreement on the deal before turning down the option, which is how these things go.
a comp lower than Grant aspires to, though some real differences in how they fit/play
Might as well be talking about the Luka era in Dallas here. If they lost Kyrie, as you note that's a ton of value walking out the door that they just can't recoup, which will make Luka want to leave. Since they've re-signed Kyrie at big money, he will inevitably blow it all up, which will make Luka want to leave.
The Mavs are in a deep, deep hole of their own making. I don't know the way out for them.
They weren't bidding against themselves if Kyrie's people don't give Dallas that assurance at an agreed upon number.
Also just in: Hachimura stays with Lakers (RFA), Cam Reddish to Lakers
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Is 29 the prime for a 6'1 guard that shot 34% from 3 and 39% from the field last year? Maybe. At least it's only 3 years.
The Rockets had to make the salary floor somehow. I’m praying that this signals the end of the KPJ era in Houston.