Felger and Mazz - Creating False Naratives one day at a time

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This whole phony premise of their is based on soft demand in the scalping market for Opening Night. They of course blame that it's 1) at night, and 2) on a weekend. They of course don't mention that it's Easter Sunday.
 

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This is great...Felger is going OFF on BC. I don't think there's a better "ranter" in Boston sports talk radio, he's hilarious when he goes off like this.
 

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QUOTE (Phenom @ Mar 31 2010, 04:06 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2872757
This is great...Felger is going OFF on BC. I don't think there's a better "ranter" in Boston sports talk radio, he's hilarious when he goes off like this.

Some guy is on now and started his call with "I have a boner over this conversation."
 

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QUOTE (Rocco Graziosa @ Mar 31 2010, 06:05 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2872880
As a BC hater I LOVED this today. Fantastic stuff.



It was tough for me today. Tough. I hate Holy Cross as much as he hates BC. For the same reasons, I suspect. He couldn't get into BC, I did, but I couldn't get into Holy Cross. So, in a perverse sense, I feel his pain.
 

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I also loved the story about how Felger wound up in Boston...he followed his girlfriend.

But yeah, really great stuff today. A fun listen, which is what sports talk radio should be.
 

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I will say, regardless of whether you agree with him or not, Felger's real rants are entertaining as hell. You can hear the passion dripping from his voice, yet he always has somewhat reasoned arguments and ideas backing them up. It's not him just yelling Gresh-style making you want to turn your radio off. He's ironically very similar to Toucher in the mornings in this respect. He also gave plenty of air time to pro-BC callers today, which made it even more entertaining. Outstanding radio today, and the Tufts shout out on behalf of Tony Mazz sure didn't hurt things.

"I wish BC women were all as attractive as they think they are. Then they would all actually be gorgeous." I was dying.
 

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Prior to 98.5, the times when I would see Felger on TV I always hated him, I just always felt like he was a prick and down on everything. On the radio however I think his true personality shines through a lot more and despite all his negative qualities I find that I just love him on the radio. Guy is an angry douch but he is passionate about Boston sports and it translates so well over the radio. Yesterdays show was pure gold. Part of me hates it, but I am a Felgie fan.
 

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QUOTE (Sille Skrub @ Mar 31 2010, 07:35 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2872954
Even though you can easily distinguish where his biases come from (he went to BU), he really is fantastic on the radio.

Great show today.


His aversion to cross town cankles, then, is understandable. I'm sorry I missed this show.
 

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He does not understand baseball, I am sorry.

Players don't walk unless they can hit. This is so obvious a 5-year old could tell you that; I think the problem is our sports culture privileges loudmouthed ignorance and totally destroys simple logic.


To his credit (I use the term loosely -- the AVG/OBP discussion should be dead and decided by now), Felger does and will always claim to be a hockey and football guy. He has to talk Sox because he's the big draw on a major Boston sports radio station, but he'd never claim to be a baseball expert, which is good because he clearly isn't.
 

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QUOTE (Youkilis vs Wild @ Apr 8 2010, 02:19 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2887602
To his credit (I use the term loosely -- the AVG/OBP discussion should be dead and decided by now), Felger does and will always claim to be a hockey and football guy. He has to talk Sox because he's the big draw on a major Boston sports radio station, but he'd never claim to be a baseball expert, which is good because he clearly isn't.

If that's the case, then he needs to slow his roll when talking baseball. He shows zero humility and constantly shouts down his co-host (an actual baseball columnist), along with callers - some of whom probably know a great deal more than Felger. It's fine that he has opinions, everyone does...but nothing is more annoying than a blohard who feigns expertise on a subject.

Listening to him talk Tiger Woods now. "He was definitely on steroids". Okay, case closed, then. Thanks for settling that, Felgie.
 

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I think Tony Mazz is the one with the silly argument, not Felger. Not that that's above (below?) Felger.
 

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QUOTE (Youkilis vs Wild @ Apr 8 2010, 02:19 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2887602
To his credit (I use the term loosely -- the AVG/OBP discussion should be dead and decided by now), Felger does and will always claim to be a hockey and football guy. He has to talk Sox because he's the big draw on a major Boston sports radio station, but he'd never claim to be a baseball expert, which is good because he clearly isn't.


Yeah...I'm pretty sure the above poster was referring to Tony Mazz's column.

Actually, as I've said before, I don't think Felger's baseball knowledge is all that bad. He seems to like the game (he constantly says how it's right up there with football and hockey) and talks about having the Extra Innings package, watching the Brewers, etc.

Is he an "expert?" No, but compared to a lot of others, he's really not that bad at all.
 
QUOTE (Phenom @ Apr 8 2010, 01:27 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2887785
Yeah...I'm pretty sure the above poster was referring to Tony Mazz's column.

Actually, as I've said before, I don't think Felger's baseball knowledge is all that bad. He seems to like the game (he constantly says how it's right up there with football and hockey) and talks about having the Extra Innings package, watching the Brewers, etc.

Is he an "expert?" No, but compared to a lot of others, he's really not that bad at all.


Yeah I agree. Felger seems to have a pretty good grasp on three of the four major sports. He knows hockey better than most hosts in the area, does a very good job with football and isn't bad with baseball either. He's lacking in NBA knowledge but that's because he admittedly hates the NBA and hates the Celtics.

What irks me is when a guy is great at one sport, then looks like a total bufoon talking about another. I LOVE Chris Gasper when he discusses the NFL, but he is an absolute train wreck with baseball - same with Curran. Curran made the argument last year that the most important stat in baseball is games played and becuase Drew will miss 30 games a year, he stinks and the Sox should get rid of him. True story.

Off topic, but Sean McAdam is brilliant at disscussing hockey.
 
Felger was more than implying that Cameron's kidney stones were due to PEDs on todays show. It was odd to hear a media member in this town immediately go to that card. You would never hear anybody else on either station throw that out there with zero evidence. And yes, I do know Cameron was suspended for a stimulant in 2008 but I still found his statements a little flippant.
 
QUOTE (mikeford @ Apr 16 2010, 03:58 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2902404
Well, Felger hates Mike Cameron so I wasn't that surprised he went there with it.


It was great when he was bad mouthing Cameron before an interview when Cameron was in Boston for his press conference signing. Then when the interview began Felger said nothing inflamatory and went with "Hey, how did you like Milwaukee? I'm from Milwaukee." As soon as the interview was over he started laughing and said something along the line of "yes, I'm a pussy. No need to call or text me about it...I admit it, I pussed out big time." I love his self deprecating honesty.
 

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QUOTE (BannedbyNYYFans.com @ Apr 16 2010, 09:59 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2903306
It was great when he was bad mouthing Cameron before an interview when Cameron was in Boston for his press conference signing. Then when the interview began Felger said nothing inflamatory and went with "Hey, how did you like Milwaukee? I'm from Milwaukee." As soon as the interview was over he started laughing and said something along the line of "yes, I'm a pussy. No need to call or text me about it...I admit it, I pussed out big time." I love his self deprecating honesty.




Are you Jack from LA?
 
QUOTE (Sparky Lyle @ Apr 16 2010, 07:04 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2903333
Are you Jack from LA?


Well played sir...well played.

My g/f tells me I'm too obsessed with Boston sports - having all 4 DirecTV sports packages to watch the "local" teams, listening to and calling into EEI and TSHub, and posting on Boston Sports websites. For the first time I'm starting to think she might have a point. I feel like a loser. Thanks Sparky :(
 

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QUOTE (BannedbyNYYFans.com @ Apr 17 2010, 12:19 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2903860
Well played sir...well played.

My g/f tells me I'm too obsessed with Boston sports - having all 4 DirecTV sports packages to watch the "local" teams, listening to and calling into EEI and TSHub, and posting on Boston Sports websites. For the first time I'm starting to think she might have a point. I feel like a loser. Thanks Sparky :(



So, you are Jack from LA?


Dude guy, if you are, you should have your own show, fer crissakes. Clearly one of THE best callers to either show, and most knowledgeable.
 
QUOTE (Sparky Lyle @ Apr 17 2010, 09:36 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2903870
So, you are Jack from LA?


Dude guy, if you are, you should have your own show, fer crissakes. Clearly one of THE best callers to either show, and most knowledgeable.


Thanks, I appreciate that. I probably call in way too much but my job changed dramatically about two years ago and now I primarily work out of my house - so I constantly stream Dale & Holley and Felger & Mazz during the day. I always tell myself that "I'm not going to call in today - I need to focus on work", but half the time I break down because somebody says something so ridiculous that it drives me crazy to listen without giving some of my opinion. My ultimate fear is becoming one of those moronic, character callers who frequent The Big Show (Angelo from Everett, Frank from Gloucester). Now I don't feel as pathetic.
 

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QUOTE (BannedbyNYYFans.com @ Apr 8 2010, 07:21 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2887991
Off topic, but Sean McAdam is brilliant at disscussing hockey.




I just noticed this. Do you know why? As Felger was the beat writer for the B's for the Herald, McAdam was the beat writer for the ProJo for the B's. If I recall correctly. And actually, I prefer to listen to McAdam talk hockey than baseball. McAdam knows a lot of hockey and a lot about it.
 
QUOTE (Sparky Lyle @ Apr 17 2010, 08:00 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2906719
I just noticed this. Do you know why? As Felger was the beat writer for the B's for the Herald, McAdam was the beat writer for the ProJo for the B's. If I recall correctly. And actually, I prefer to listen to McAdam talk hockey than baseball. McAdam knows a lot of hockey and a lot about it.


I don't know why he is so into pucks. I think he just grew up a huge B's fan and he kept it up - I know he hates basketball. I went to a Sox/Angels game last year out here on May 14th (it was a 5-4, 12 inning loss for Boston in which Ortiz went 0 for 7 and the team stranded 17 runners - ugghhh) and I was sitting along the 1st baseline among a handful of scouts. McAdam came down from the press box to talk to the scouts and he and I actually talked for a couple of innings. He was great, espcially considering I was half in the bag, and after talking about Kalish and some othe prospects, we moved onto hockey. The Bruins were playing Game 7 that night against Carolina and you could tell that McAdam had little interest in the baseball game and was mentally focusing on the Bruins. I've heard him discuss hockey on EEI in the past but it was just snippets. One on one like that for about 15 minutes really showed some pretty great insight. I was impressed.
 

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Felger, who had some very interesting points on the Pats last week, really needs to keep a firm hand on the tiller this week if he can.

Otherwise, all we'll hear out of Mazz is (i) The Sox are cheap, arrogant and screwed for not going the extra mile for Teixeira and (ii) The Pats are cheap, arrogant and screwed for not trading for Brandon Marshall. There will be a lot of new stuff, but Mazz will want to look backward and prove he was right.
 

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The Teixeira is the one thing he's/they're right about, at least to an extent. I would much rather they harp on that than the idea that the focus on defense in the offseason was just "spin" and how awful Cameron and Beltre are offensively.
 

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Felger is cracking me up, I love this.

"I'm Bad, no you're bad, no I'm a bad man, no I'm really the bad man!"

Hilarious take on the KG "fight."
 

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Today's a day when I think Felger's warts show. I don't think his take on the KG thing is very insightful. He's basically dismissing NBA players as wannabe thugs. It's lowest common denominator stuff that he's usually above, but this is troll radio 101. He doesn't like the NBA and he'll take an extreme and overly generalized opinion and generate a bunch of calls all day and dismiss every point and tell us it boils down to KG being a wannabe thug. More than likely 4 hours of it. But as someone said, at least it means we don't have to hear about Cameron.
 

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QUOTE (teddykgb @ Apr 19 2010, 03:19 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2910354
Today's a day when I think Felger's warts show. I don't think his take on the KG thing is very insightful. He's basically dismissing NBA players as wannabe thugs. It's lowest common denominator stuff that he's usually above, but this is troll radio 101. He doesn't like the NBA and he'll take an extreme and overly generalized opinion and generate a bunch of calls all day and dismiss every point and tell us it boils down to KG being a wannabe thug. More than likely 4 hours of it. But as someone said, at least it means we don't have to hear about Cameron.


I disagree...I thought his KG rant was entertaining as hell.

I listen to sports talk radio to be entertained, and Felger does that better than almost anyone else in the market.

And what's so bad about criticizing Cameron? You don't think he's undeserving of criticism with the way he's played?
 

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Nah. I've just listened to a lot of Felger over the years because I'm a huge fan of him. As you've pointed out, he's very entertaining and in general I don't t hink he's as prone as others to retreat to simpleton explanations. He tends to have a real "prove it" mentality, which I enjoy. But things like Moss, Cameron, and the hatred of the NBA just become talking points for him after a while, and while there is some validity to what he says, it gets tiring. So yeah, Cameron probably deserves some of it, but I could also use a break.

As far as the NBA stuff, like I said, there's obviously more to it than that, so even if he wants to get his joke in and be provocative, engage in the conversation a little bit, especially when someone like Mazz is saying that he doesn't have a problem with it.
 

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QUOTE (teddykgb @ Apr 19 2010, 03:38 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2910384
As far as the NBA stuff, like I said, there's obviously more to it than that, so even if he wants to get his joke in and be provocative, engage in the conversation a little bit, especially when someone like Mazz is saying that he doesn't have a problem with it.


In a case like that, I think that's partially Mazz's fault. Mazz should have pushed the argument a little more. Instead, he was perfectly fine with sitting back and chuckling at Felger's rant.

I think Tony Mazz has done a good job as he can possibly do in a full time host role, and don't think replacing him should be a priority for the station. The show is more than fine.

But if you're looking for a guy to really push Felger, Tony isn't that guy. He'll challenge him on baseball, the sport he feels most comfortable with, but on the other three sports, he's happy to play "second fiddle."

Again, I really enjoy the program but it's clearly Felger's show. Mazz is not an "equal partner."
 

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QUOTE (AquaNarc @ Apr 19 2010, 12:50 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2910190
The Teixeira is the one thing he's/they're right about, at least to an extent. I would much rather they harp on that than the idea that the focus on defense in the offseason was just "spin" and how awful Cameron and Beltre are offensively.


What exactly are they right about? How were the Sox supposed to outbid the Yankees for Teixeira?
 
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What exactly are they right about? How were the Sox supposed to outbid the Yankees for Teixeira?



I totally get your point. Here is my issue with Mazz regarding Teixeira. He rarely says, "the Sox LOST OUT on Tex and it's gonna hurt them for years" (which I agree with). What he normally says is, "the Sox SCREWED UP on Tex and it's gonna hurt them for years". He almost never mentions that this ownership group brought to the table the biggest and longest deal they ever offered for any player. Instead he usually says "my source says they blew the negotiations and now they're paying for it", as if Henry said, "You suck and your wife does too, Mark. Here's $100 bucks, come play for the Sox."

So I'm okay when he brings up the loss of Teixeira. But I'm not okay when he dismisses it as if Boston didn't make a serious push for him.
 

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QUOTE (BannedbyNYYFans.com @ Apr 19 2010, 08:54 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2910852
So I'm okay when he brings up the loss of Teixeira. But I'm not okay when he dismisses it as if Boston didn't make a serious push for him.



As always, I agree with just about everything you say. But, there's more to it than that, as far as I'm concerned. John Henry did make a serious play for him, but not enough of a serious play. He sulked. And told Teixeira to go pound sand. Brian Cashman sensed this and swooped in. With oodles and boodles of dough. So I read. The Steinbrenners called the bluff. Sox lost. Mazz is right. Am I quibbling?
 

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QUOTE (Sparky Lyle @ Apr 19 2010, 09:16 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2911089
As always, I agree with just about everything you say. But, there's more to it than that, as far as I'm concerned. John Henry did make a serious play for him, but not enough of a serious play. He sulked. And told Teixeira to go pound sand. Brian Cashman sensed this and swooped in. With oodles and boodles of dough. So I read. The Steinbrenners called the bluff. Sox lost. Mazz is right. Am I quibbling?


Do you have some sort of source to back this up besides Henry's tweets? For all we know when they met in Texas Boras showed them the larger offer from the Yankees and told the Sox they had to surpass it. What exactly would you have done in that situation? Henry made the only rational move by withdrawing the offer. If Boras was bluffing he would have to come back to the Sox. If he wasn't, Henry knew it would simply turn into a bidding war the Sox could not possibly win.
 

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QUOTE (Sparky Lyle @ Apr 19 2010, 10:16 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2911089
As always, I agree with just about everything you say. But, there's more to it than that, as far as I'm concerned. John Henry did make a serious play for him, but not enough of a serious play. He sulked. And told Teixeira to go pound sand. Brian Cashman sensed this and swooped in. With oodles and boodles of dough. So I read. The Steinbrenners called the bluff. Sox lost. Mazz is right. Am I quibbling?

I don't think Teixeira was ever come to Boston. No matter how much Boston offered him he was going to take that offer to the Yankees and they would have gotten outbid. They could have offered him 8/200 and NYY would have come back with 8/220. I'm convinced he was never ever coming here because he made too much sense and was the perfect signing for both teams, that's what annoys me when Mazz goes on his Teix rant.