#DFG: Canceling the Noise
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Just saw a Darren Rovell tweet that said a new survey has Brady on par with Tiger Woods now in popularity.
That's sad. Good job NFL. You've successfully smeared the guy who should be the fucking face of your league. Your league is under fire for drugs and domestic violence and you chose *this* to get worked up about. You not only allowed Mortensen's erroneous tweet about "10 balls being 2 PSI under" to sit out there you specifically told the team not to correct that info when you had access to the actual numbers. Brady should be the fucking poster child for the NFL for working his way up from where he started, but the league would rather let untrue assertions (speaking to Mortensen's tweet) fester and allow a narrative to coalesce around Brady.
Fuck you Goodell. I hope Kessler and Kraft burn you to the ground.
That's sad. Good job NFL. You've successfully smeared the guy who should be the fucking face of your league. Your league is under fire for drugs and domestic violence and you chose *this* to get worked up about. You not only allowed Mortensen's erroneous tweet about "10 balls being 2 PSI under" to sit out there you specifically told the team not to correct that info when you had access to the actual numbers. Brady should be the fucking poster child for the NFL for working his way up from where he started, but the league would rather let untrue assertions (speaking to Mortensen's tweet) fester and allow a narrative to coalesce around Brady.
Fuck you Goodell. I hope Kessler and Kraft burn you to the ground.
DrewDawg said:
Brady will come away fine in time. Many of the people who voted negatively didn't like him to begin with and those who have seemingly switched their minds will come back as time passes.
The NFL and Goodell are still scumbags for this whole ordeal, though.
My current fantasy is that Kraft, knowing that he has no ability to appeal the lose of the draft pick, works with the NFLPA to have the current CBA dismissed causing players to strike and all player contracts to be voided and that we resign Revis.
DrewDawg said:
On the other hand, it makes perfect sense. Domestic violence and drugs are areas that are fraught with the opportunity for disciplinary missteps and misjudging public opinion (as shown). Something innocuous like this is a perfect way for him to reset the narrative to "Goodell is so harsh with punishments!" That's really the simple reason he's going to the mat with this. There's little downside. Even in an over-punishment situation like this, he's (especially with this team) going to have a sizable portion of the public on his side. Hell, some of them are even getting on him because they think it's too light.
If nothing positive come from this, I am fortunate for having the term Dorito dink in my life.
Ed Hillel said:
It's that the NFL allowed it to happen. They could have slowed it all down immediately with a correction to Mort's tweet. Goodell was pissed that he got his ass handed to him and decided to show how tough he was. Seeing Rovell's tweet just kind of brought it home for me.
This isn't a "why do you care what others think" moment. It's a "holy shit, how fucking capricious is the NFL to go along willingly with what happened" moment.
pappymojo said:
... and then you celebrate by having a threesome with Kate Uptown and Emily Ratajkowski, or is that too ambitious?
lock the thread now - this is as good as this dumpster fire is gonna get.RedOctober3829 said:
slamminsammya said:
Because you care about justice and this violates everything you hold dear about the same.
To court we GO!
Jason Cole @JasonPhilCole 6m6 minutes ago
Insider Buzz: Goodell Unlikely to Change Brady Penalties, Appeal Headed to Court http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2465096-insider-buzz-goodell-unlikely-to-change-brady-penalties-appeal-headed-to-court?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=web-mob-art-vid-16 … via @bleacherreport
Jason Cole @JasonPhilCole 6m6 minutes ago
Insider Buzz: Goodell Unlikely to Change Brady Penalties, Appeal Headed to Court http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2465096-insider-buzz-goodell-unlikely-to-change-brady-penalties-appeal-headed-to-court?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=web-mob-art-vid-16 … via @bleacherreport
This is exactly how I feel.DrewDawg said:
The damage done is irreparable. It's all on the league.
Adam Caplan retweeted
Ed Werder @Edwerderespn 19m19 minutes ago
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell "very unlikely'' to recuse himself from presiding over Tom Brady appeal, per source
Ed Werder @Edwerderespn 19m19 minutes agoNFL Commissioner Roger Goodell "very unlikely'' to recuse himself from presiding over Tom Brady appeal, per source
DrewDawg said:
Talk about serving your NFL master, ESPN Radio is leading the top of the hour with the Mike&Mike rant essentially sayingt "If the Pats say nothing happened, why are these guys suspended! Tell us why if you're so big on transparency."
Gee, maybe since these guys have privacy rights that an employer can't trample on?
glennhoffmania said:
I doubt he was picking a fight against Kraft specifically. I think Goodell is in surivial mode and he just can't have a another story about how the NFL is run by idiots--which is what would have happened if the report said "maybe there was deflation, maybe not, ideal gas law explains a lot, hard to tell because no one measured the things, and by the way the league office was deliberately leaking this shit before they knew what the fuck had happened."
RedOctober3829 said:
You'll feel less fortunate if you look up the alternate definition on urban dictionary.
Because the perfect crime may have been committed (against the Pats), because your team is being trashed, and because there isn't a goddamn thing you can do about it.slamminsammya said:
Somebody called TB today's Richard Jewell. Maybe he is; maybe he isn't.
But remember this -- for every Richard Jewell ultimately exonerated, many more spend decades unfairly imprisoned -- and some have been wrongly put to death.
I do not imagine that even with the Patriots' and TB's resources, our odds are much better if public opinion is the measuring stick.
In my view, on the public opinion front, and the Kraft toppling G front, there is optimism in this thread akin to expecting that Jake Bequette will be named an All Pro. (Legal front -- I think there are reasons to be optimistic for a partial victory).
So ... channel your inner Raider.
The appeal hasn't even been heard. So either Cole's tweet is total BS, Cole is confused about Goodell likely not recusing himself, or Goodell is doing everything he can to make this become a court proceeding.soxhop411 said:
lexrageorge said:
I mentioned this yesterday. The message oozing out of NFL HQ since last week was that the appeal would not change the punishment one bit. Roger & Co. attach great import to not yielding an inch on this one.
Shelterdog said:
Yep, the only true goal of the NFL and its hired investigator was to reach this conclusion:
The NFL talking points handed out to ESPN are pretty clear now:
1. Deflator jokes
2. Why'd they suspend the jamokes
3. The Pats' science expert received donations from the Kraft group
Every host or show I've come across since the rebuttal hits on all three, without giving anything more than lip service to the rebuttal itself.
1. Deflator jokes
2. Why'd they suspend the jamokes
3. The Pats' science expert received donations from the Kraft group
Every host or show I've come across since the rebuttal hits on all three, without giving anything more than lip service to the rebuttal itself.
I didn't hear it all, but John Clayton was on WEEI just now with a generally reasonable take. He did say something, however, along the lines of "They're getting this huge punishment because they got caught." Unfortunately, no one challenged him with what the Chargers got for their stickum incident.
Ed Hillel said:
How many people remember that immediately after he won the Super Bowl, Joe Namath was suspended indefinitely from football because he refused to sell his ownership share in a mobbed up nightclub? Namath even retired in a tearful press conference before meeting with Rozelle and agreeing to liquidate his holdings. (Rozelle then lifted the suspension.)
Troy Vincent tweeted out an image of/quote from Joe Namath yesterday to reinforce the notion that football is "an honest game."
Brady will be fine.
Average Reds said:
Holy shit. That explains so much. Guys, he wasn't colluding with Roger Goodell when he was president of the Players Association and reportedly turned over confidential documents to Roger Goodell and Bob McNair, he was just being honest about the things they were asking about. Thank god. I was worried we were dealing with a liar and hypocrite of the highest order.
Wait, I thought the huge punishment wasn't for 'getting caught' it was for being uncooperative and a repeat offender. The so-called infraction had little to do with the decision.Harry Hooper said:
Harry Hooper said:
As we've learned from past Schefter visits, they play to the audience. The national ESPN insiders will sound reasonable, or even pro-Patriots, when on Boston radio ... and then never express the same opinions when on a national stage
1. Exacerbated yesterday morning.E5 Yaz said:
2. Highlighted yesterday morning, but what can you do?
3. Exacerbated yesterday morning, either by sloppiness (which is what happens when things are rushed) or being way too cute in characterizing the Pats' relationship but not being forthright about Kraft's
E5 Yaz said:
This is correct. They turn green when they're in the outfield and brown when they're on the dirt of the infield.
pappymojo said:
Re: the video, he knew what was on it, and then the NFL denied knowing what was on it. He was rightfully pissed about that. Here, he got fed the "11/12 balls +2lbs under PSI" soundbite that turned into this whole ridiculous mess. He was used, intentionally, and it compromised his integrity - at least it seems that way.
Harry Hooper said:
This is infuriating. Kraft said he was willing to accept the penalties and move on and suspended the only people the Wells report found responsible for anything, McNally and Jastrzemski. Brady is fighting a suspension for obstruction because it's capriciously harsh compared to the $25k and $50k fines other players got for similar infractions. Kraft is pissed about the team's punishment, as seen by the website they released, but it's not clear what he's actually doing about it in terms of fighting it since he cannot appeal.
The same goes for Jastrzemski's and McNally's suspensions, which were ordered to continue by Troy Vincent and who cannot be reinstated without Troy Vincent's prior authorization (see below for the relevant text from Vincent's announcement). It's pathetic how blatant so much of this kind of "reporting" is and how poor the rest of it is.
The NFL and ESPN have been chasing their own tails for so long in this that they don't even know where they are anymore. I can only hope this impacts their bottom line.