I wouldn't put it past him to create a bulletproof retaliation claim.Harry Hooper said:So Roger will send out a new disciplinary decision letter -- six games for Brady and Pats forfeit an additional pair of second-round picks?
I wouldn't put it past him to create a bulletproof retaliation claim.Harry Hooper said:So Roger will send out a new disciplinary decision letter -- six games for Brady and Pats forfeit an additional pair of second-round picks?
DrewDawg said:Just saw a Darren Rovell tweet that said a new survey has Brady on par with Tiger Woods now in popularity.
That's sad. Good job NFL. You've successfully smeared the guy who should be the fucking face of your league. Your league is under fire for drugs and domestic violence and you chose *this* to get worked up about. You not only allowed Mortensen's erroneous tweet about "10 balls being 2 PSI under" to sit out there you specifically told the team not to correct that info when you had access to the actual numbers. Brady should be the fucking poster child for the NFL for working his way up from where he started, but the league would rather let untrue assertions (speaking to Mortensen's tweet) fester and allow a narrative to coalesce around Brady.
Fuck you Goodell. I hope Kessler and Kraft burn you to the ground.
DrewDawg said:Just saw a Darren Rovell tweet that said a new survey has Brady on par with Tiger Woods now in popularity.
That's sad. Good job NFL. You've successfully smeared the guy who should be the fucking face of your league. Your league is under fire for drugs and domestic violence and you chose *this* to get worked up about. You not only allowed Mortensen's erroneous tweet about "10 balls being 2 PSI under" to sit out there you specifically told the team not to correct that info when you had access to the actual numbers. Brady should be the fucking poster child for the NFL for working his way up from where he started, but the league would rather let untrue assertions (speaking to Mortensen's tweet) fester and allow a narrative to coalesce around Brady.
Fuck you Goodell. I hope Kessler and Kraft burn you to the ground.
Exactly. Additionally, we no nothing about the survey sample.Ed Hillel said:
Brady will come away fine in time. Many of the people who voted negatively didn't like him to begin with and those who have seemingly switched their minds will come back as time passes.
The NFL and Goodell are still scumbags for this whole ordeal, though.
DrewDawg said:Just saw a Darren Rovell tweet that said a new survey has Brady on par with Tiger Woods now in popularity.
That's sad. Good job NFL. You've successfully smeared the guy who should be the fucking face of your league. Your league is under fire for drugs and domestic violence and you chose *this* to get worked up about. You not only allowed Mortensen's erroneous tweet about "10 balls being 2 PSI under" to sit out there you specifically told the team not to correct that info when you had access to the actual numbers. Brady should be the fucking poster child for the NFL for working his way up from where he started, but the league would rather let untrue assertions (speaking to Mortensen's tweet) fester and allow a narrative to coalesce around Brady.
Fuck you Goodell. I hope Kessler and Kraft burn you to the ground.
Slow Rheal said:Mort's gotta say something at some point, he got used so blatantly, right?
Ed Hillel said:
Brady will come away fine in time. Many of the people who voted negatively didn't like him to begin with and those who have seemingly switched their minds will come back as time passes.
The NFL and Goodell are still scumbags for this whole ordeal, though.
pappymojo said:My current fantasy is that Kraft, knowing that he has no ability to appeal the lose of the draft pick, works with the NFLPA to have the current CBA dismissed causing players to strike and all player contracts to be voided and that we resign Revis.
lock the thread now - this is as good as this dumpster fire is gonna get.RedOctober3829 said:If nothing positive come from this, I am fortunate for having the term Dorito dink in my life.
slamminsammya said:Why do I care so much about this story?
This is exactly how I feel.DrewDawg said:Just saw a Darren Rovell tweet that said a new survey has Brady on par with Tiger Woods now in popularity.
That's sad. Good job NFL. You've successfully smeared the guy who should be the fucking face of your league. Your league is under fire for drugs and domestic violence and you chose *this* to get worked up about. You not only allowed Mortensen's erroneous tweet about "10 balls being 2 PSI under" to sit out there you specifically told the team not to correct that info when you had access to the actual numbers. Brady should be the fucking poster child for the NFL for working his way up from where he started, but the league would rather let untrue assertions (speaking to Mortensen's tweet) fester and allow a narrative to coalesce around Brady.
Fuck you Goodell. I hope Kessler and Kraft burn you to the ground.
DrewDawg said:Does no one in the media remember that the NFL basically forced NE to suspend/fire these guys?
That was the topic on ESPN Radio this morning--they fired these guys and now they are defending them.
Someone, possibly Jemele Hill then said, "Well, do we really think the Patriots fired them because they knew they were doing things against the rules and then assumed they wouldn't talk? That doesn't make sense. They won't have good feelings towards NE after getting fired."
glennhoffmania said:
This is an interesting part to me as well. I was pretty surprised that Goodell survived the Rice incident, and it seemed like one of the main reasons was Kraft's support. Why Roger is picking a fight with Kraft now is odd.
soxhop411 said:To court we GO!
Jason Cole @JasonPhilCole 6m6 minutes ago
Insider Buzz: Goodell Unlikely to Change Brady Penalties, Appeal Headed to Court http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2465096-insider-buzz-goodell-unlikely-to-change-brady-penalties-appeal-headed-to-court?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=web-mob-art-vid-16 … via @bleacherreport
RedOctober3829 said:If nothing positive come from this, I am fortunate for having the term Dorito dink in my life.
Because the perfect crime may have been committed (against the Pats), because your team is being trashed, and because there isn't a goddamn thing you can do about it.slamminsammya said:Why do I care so much about this story?
The appeal hasn't even been heard. So either Cole's tweet is total BS, Cole is confused about Goodell likely not recusing himself, or Goodell is doing everything he can to make this become a court proceeding.soxhop411 said:To court we GO!
Jason Cole @JasonPhilCole 6m6 minutes ago
Insider Buzz: Goodell Unlikely to Change Brady Penalties, Appeal Headed to Court http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2465096-insider-buzz-goodell-unlikely-to-change-brady-penalties-appeal-headed-to-court?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=web-mob-art-vid-16 … via @bleacherreport
There is no Rev said:I just realized I'm enjoying this. It's like finding out pro wrestling is real.
lexrageorge said:The appeal hasn't even been heard. So either Cole's tweet is total BS, is confused about Goodell recusing himself, or Goodell is doing everything he can to make this become a court proceeding.
Did you watch the video? Cole is just prognosticating, and it's fair prognostication.lexrageorge said:The appeal hasn't even been heard. So either Cole's tweet is total BS, Cole is confused about Goodell likely not recusing himself, or Goodell is doing everything he can to make this become a court proceeding.
Shelterdog said:
I doubt he was picking a fight against Kraft specifically. I think Goodell is in surivial mode and he just can't have a another story about how the NFL is run by idiots--which is what would have happened if the report said "maybe there was deflation, maybe not, ideal gas law explains a lot, hard to tell because no one measured the things, and by the way the league office was deliberately leaking this shit before they knew what the fuck had happened."
At various points in the investigation, counsel for the Patriots questioned the integrity and objectivity of game officials, various NFL executives and certain NFL Security representatives present at the AFC Championship Game or otherwise involved in the investigative process. We found no evidence to substantiate the questions raised by counsel. Specifically, we identified no evidence of any bias or unfairness. We believe that the game officials, NFL executives, NFL Security representatives and other members of the NFL staff who participated in the testing of the footballs and the subsequent investigative process acted fairly, properly and responsibly.
Skeesix said:Do you fight? Through the courts? Who has the financial means to pursue that kind of court battle?
Ed Hillel said:
Brady will come away fine in time. Many of the people who voted negatively didn't like him to begin with and those who have seemingly switched their minds will come back as time passes.
The NFL and Goodell are still scumbags for this whole ordeal, though.
Harry Hooper said:I didn;t hear it all, but John Clayton was on WEEI just now with a generally reasonable take. He did say something, however, along the lines of "They're getting this huge punishment because they got caught."
DrewDawg said:
Wait--of course the punishment is because the got caught.
Every punishment ever is because someone got caught.
Average Reds said:Troy Vincent tweeted out an image of/quote from Joe Namath yesterday to reinforce the notion that football is "an honest game."
Harry Hooper said:
"huge punishment"
Gingers.djhb20 said:who the fuck are the 9% that think it's fair, even though they don't think Brady cheated?
.
Wait, I thought the huge punishment wasn't for 'getting caught' it was for being uncooperative and a repeat offender. The so-called infraction had little to do with the decision.Harry Hooper said:I didn't hear it all, but John Clayton was on WEEI just now with a generally reasonable take. He did say something, however, along the lines of "They're getting this huge punishment because they got caught." Unfortunately, no one challenged him with what the Chargers got for their stickum incident.
glennhoffmania said:
Don't worry, I really don't give a shit what you think.
Harry Hooper said:I didn't hear it all, but John Clayton was on WEEI just now with a generally reasonable take. He did say something, however, along the lines of "They're getting this huge punishment because they got caught." Unfortunately, no one challenged him with what the Chargers got for their stickum incident.
1. Exacerbated yesterday morning.E5 Yaz said:The NFL talking points handed out to ESPN are pretty clear now:
1. Deflator jokes
2. Why'd they suspend the jamokes
3. The Pats' science expert received donations from the Kraft group
Every host or show I've come across since the rebuttal hits on all three, without giving anything more than lip service to the rebuttal itself.
E5 Yaz said:
As we've learned from past Schefter visits, they play to the audience. The national ESPN insiders will sound reasonable, or even pro-Patriots, when on Boston radio ... and then never express the same opinions when on a national stage
I am a block away.BigSoxFan said:I work like 4 blocks away. Count me in!
Harry Hooper said:
"huge punishment"
pappymojo said:
If he didn't speak up over the Ray Rice video, why would he speak up now?
Harry Hooper said:Talk about serving your NFL master, ESPN Radio is leading the top of the hour with the Mike&Mike rant essentially sayingt "If the Pats say nothing happened, why are these guys suspended! Tell us why if you're so big on transparency."
Gee, maybe since these guys have privacy rights that an employer can't trample on?
Patriots owner Robert Kraft advised Commissioner Roger Goodell last week that Patriots employees John Jastremski and James McNally have been indefinitely suspended without pay by the club, effective on May 6. Neither of these individuals may be reinstated without the prior approval of NFL Executive Vice President of Football Operations Troy Vincent. If they are reinstated by the Patriots, Jastremski is prohibited from having any role in the preparation, supervision, or handling of footballs to be used in NFL games during the 2015 season. McNally is barred from serving as a locker room attendant for the game officials, or having any involvement with the preparation, supervision, or handling of footballs or any other equipment on game day.