#DFG: Canceling the Noise
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Didn't eating shit like that nearly kill you?OilCanShotTupac said:I don't know the name of it, I think that's it.
Had lunch there a couple of weeks ago, when I had to push a bunch of paper at the New York State courthouse (next door to the fed courthouse where Berman is). This cost $2:
This is the best I could do:Harry Hooper said:
http://tinyurl.com/mohnqf7
BACKGROUND: A FIRM IN GERMANY ORDERED COFFEE FROM A FIRM IN
THE UNITED STATES. WHILE THE COFFEE WAS ENROUTE, A COUPLE OF BAGS
BROKE OPEN AND RATS NESTED IN THE COFFEE. THE GERMAN FIRM SENT
THE FOLLOWING LETTER CONCERNING THE CONDITION OF THE COFFEE --
135 WILHELMSTRASSE
HAMBERG, GERMANY
SCHENTELMENS:
DER LAST 2 PECKETECHES VE GOT FROM YOU OFF KOFFEE WAS MIT
RATTSCHIDT GEMIXT. DER KOFFEE MAY BE GUTE ENUF, BUT DER
RATTSDURDS SCHBOILS DER TRADE. VE DID NOT SEE DER RATTSCHIDT IN
DER SEMBLES VICH YOU SENT US FOR EXAMINASHUN.
IT TAKES SO MUTCH TIME TO PEK DER RATTSDURDS FROM DER KOFFEE.
VE ORDER DER KLEEN KOFFEE AND YOU SCHIPT SCHIDT MIXT MIT DER
KOFFEE. IT VUS A MISCHTAKE, YA? VE LIKE YOU TO SCHIPP US
DER KOFFEE IN VUN ZAK UND DER RATTSCHIDT IN DER ODER ZAK, DEN
VE MIXT IT TO SUIT DER KOSTOMER.
WRITE PLEASE IF VE SCHOULDT SCHIPP DER SCHIDT BEK UND KEEP DER
KOFFEE ODER IF VE SCHOULDT KEEP DER SCHIDT UND SCHIPP DER
KOFFEE BEK, OR SCHIPP DER HOLD SCHIDDEN VORK BEK.
VE VENT TO DO RITE IN DIS MADDER, BUT VE DON'T LIKE DISS
RATTSCHIDT BIZZINESS.
MIT MUTCH RESPECTS,
KARL GRUMMENSCHIDT
dcmissle said:
Doubt it's a picnic but probably not much different than any other season. Or at least that's my guess based on his persona of an ability to compartmentalize. It's the Mayo tweet and other players that I'm worried about.
I suppose it shows where my mind is that I just figured it was 'real'.
We've worried in the threads about the toll on Brady but I worry more about the toll on the rest of the team.
We've worried in the threads about the toll on Brady but I worry more about the toll on the rest of the team.
And it gets billing on PFT, of course.TheoShmeo said:
Quite the eye opening season for Papa Kraft. The list of non-friends is lengthy, and this really was a gratuitous shot by McNair. Where is the list of his real friends?
Envy is an overwhelming force among people who in every other sphere of their lives -- save health and dysfunctional family -- get every single thing they want, when they want it. There is only one trophy; Bob has won it too often and generally done too much damn winning.
This has to hurt a lot. Let's hope he has learned from it.
dcmissle said:
Wait until Jonathan takes over. He doesn't strike me as a guy with any illusions that the 'partnership' among owners is anything but a moment-to-moment arrangement of convenience.
To settle, or not to settle--that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles
And by opposing Goodell, end him.
To settle, to Berman-- No more--and to settle to say we end
The heartache, and the thousand natural shocks
That pig flesh is heir to. 'Tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wished.
To settle, to Garraffalo-- To number 10--perchance to dream:
ay, there's the rub,
For in that sleep of Garraffalo what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this litigious coil,
Must give even Belichick pause. There's the respect
That makes calamity of so long strife.
For who would bear the whips and scorns of Goddell,
Th' Vincent's wrong, the Colts' contumely
The pangs of despised Jets, the Wells Report's delay,
The insolence of the commissioner's office, and the spurns
That patient merit of th' unworthy takes,
When he himself might his suspension make
With a bare football inflation bodkin?
Who would linemen bear, To grunt and sweat under a weary center,
But that the dread of something after pre-season,
The undiscovered league office, from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will,
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all,
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprise of great pitch and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry
And lose the name of action. --
Soft you now, The fair Gronkowski! --
Nymph, in thy orisons Be all my passes remembered.
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles
And by opposing Goodell, end him.
To settle, to Berman-- No more--and to settle to say we end
The heartache, and the thousand natural shocks
That pig flesh is heir to. 'Tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wished.
To settle, to Garraffalo-- To number 10--perchance to dream:
ay, there's the rub,
For in that sleep of Garraffalo what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this litigious coil,
Must give even Belichick pause. There's the respect
That makes calamity of so long strife.
For who would bear the whips and scorns of Goddell,
Th' Vincent's wrong, the Colts' contumely
The pangs of despised Jets, the Wells Report's delay,
The insolence of the commissioner's office, and the spurns
That patient merit of th' unworthy takes,
When he himself might his suspension make
With a bare football inflation bodkin?
Who would linemen bear, To grunt and sweat under a weary center,
But that the dread of something after pre-season,
The undiscovered league office, from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will,
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all,
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprise of great pitch and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry
And lose the name of action. --
Soft you now, The fair Gronkowski! --
Nymph, in thy orisons Be all my passes remembered.
http://nesn.com/?p=513478
Apparently Brady was in attendance as well.
Not exactly earth shattering and not aimed at reporters but clearly he's still annoyed.
Exactly. Like it or not, there's nothing he could really do.Ed Hillel said:
The only thing that could possibly happen (0.0001%) is if Berman somehow issues a scorched earth statement, vacating the suspension entirely and saying the NFL should consider rescinding the fine / draft pick loss to the Patriots since it's so abundantly clear that this was a bag job and that the Wells Report was so riddled with holes that no one should take it seriously and for the integrity of the sport (to use a team RG loves), they should restore the lost picks/cash.
It's so fucking infuriating that even if Brady gets off, the team still loses a fucking first round draft pick.
I'm of the opinion that unless he was willing to go nuclear, then he had no real options. What that DOES NOT mean is that he had to make nice with Goodell, a guy who by all accounts is a petty ignoramus and megalomaniac, facts be damned. It was pretty sickening to me to see Robert Kraft sashaying around with Goodell at the owner's meeting without an apparent care in the world. That was entirely unnecessary. His relationship with the commissioner should be pro forma, and nothing more. The commissioner has fucked his franchise taking away a 1st and 4th....he need not put on a good face in public, nor should he.CaptainLaddie said:
https://twitter.com/TroyVincent23/status/638871649295691777
https://twitter.com/TroyVincent23/status/638871649295691777
link to tweet
https://twitter.com/TroyVincent23/status/638871649295691777
link to tweet
Bleedred said:
Kraft tried the "play nice" approach. I realize that it failed, but I don't see the point in continuing to beat him up for trying it over that span of time. Future encounters will most likely be much more chilly.
Exactly.
For whatever reason, I have a pretty vivid memory of reading about the team moving to St Louis, then he stepped up. And he has been a model owner since.
It sucks watching somebody you care about make a fool of himself and get abused in the process. You might have guessed he'd be played by some 30-something woman. That's understandable. But Goodell?
Edit. In accord with Bleedred.
For whatever reason, I have a pretty vivid memory of reading about the team moving to St Louis, then he stepped up. And he has been a model owner since.
It sucks watching somebody you care about make a fool of himself and get abused in the process. You might have guessed he'd be played by some 30-something woman. That's understandable. But Goodell?
Edit. In accord with Bleedred.
https://twitter.com/TroyVincent23/status/638871649295691777soxhop411 said:
link to tweet
You first, Troy.
Bleedred said:
I'd like to see Kraft make a push to see the communications between the NFL office and the independent Wells investigation. What would be the rationale for denying him this -- we need to protect the ability of the Commissioner to lie through his teeth to owners? If nothing else, it would put the issue of the independence of the Wells report front and center in the media. Raise your hand if you would have liked to have seen McNair asked "So, what is the NFL hiding?"
I want to point out, once again, that Troy Vincent never actually got a degree from Wisconsin. Just want to make sure everyone knows that. Don't let his actions reflect on the school or others who may have gone there. Please.
cornwalls@6 said:
I wonder how J.J. feels about McNair proclaiming that if Roger investigated him, he'd be a good little bitch and take it.
I am flying to Toledo tomorrow afternoon. Naturally, that means Berman's ruling will come down while I'm in the air.
DrewDawg said:
All these damn productivity apps with their share buttons... I don't blame him.
Kraft was never going to go nuclear for purely self interested reasons. So while some of the criticisms of him here and elsewhere may have been a bit too harsh in tone, because from a Fans standpoint he has been mostly an exemplary owner, I don't have much sympathy for any hurt feelings or sense of betrayal he may be experiencing. He has been a core member of this cartel for years. He is wholly vested in their quest for 20-25 billion in revenues. And keeping the players under their thumbs financially, and in every other way, sure seems to be a key element of that mission. And as many have pointed out, he also never said boo when the Saints were so clearly being railroaded in Bountygate, and actively supported the feckless dunce commissioner as he was making the mother of all dumpster fires out of the domestic violence cases/policy last fall. So to some degree, lay down with dogs, get fleas.
So Kessler had Jay Feely explain to Berman on Monday that as the Jets' kicker aware of fiddling with the K-balls, was never even interviewed by the NFL when they suspended the equipment guy for equipment tampering--that's the kind of inconsistency Berman might have wanted to add to his opinion. Kessler's always thinking: "As long as you're here, Jay..."
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/01/feely-did-indeed-tell-judge-berman-about-the-jets-k-ball-incident/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/01/feely-did-indeed-tell-judge-berman-about-the-jets-k-ball-incident/
He said that on PFT last night. Berman can do whatever he wants, but if he says 2 games, from what I understand it would be extremely likely to be appealed and overturned, so I doubt Berman would want to go down that road.
tims4wins said:
The prevailing theory that subscribes to the above, and one that I read, is that Berman may choose to split the baby and find a common ground that neither side loves, but that neither side hates enough to spend the time and energy appealing. The thinking is 2 games without an admission of guilt regarding tampering may be it.
Brady would not appeal that IMO. Not so sure about the league.
At this point I think NFL wants Brady falling on his sword. I think they'd rather 1 game and an admission at this point. Goodell NEEDS Brady GUILTY to justify this whole thing.