drbretto said:
So the "destroying the cell phone" thing was what they decided to add so they could make it more "legally defensible".
Game on, NFL.
#DFG: Canceling the Noise
- Thread starter nattysez
- Start date
So the "destroying the cell phone" thing was what they decided to add so they could make it more "legally defensible".
Game on, NFL.
Good to know they have to hear the case, but realistically, the court doesn't need to decide in the NFLPA's favor.dcmissle said:
We've all been following this and mostly laughing it off at every point because of the ridiculousness of it all. I mean we are talking about the deflation of a few footballs not ISIS.
Yet at every turn the decision went against the Patriots, I'm not expecting the courts to be any different, except this time if it's upheld, it's going to look worse for Brady because we can't blame Goodell and the NFL for being buffoons and against the Patriots.
Yea, this is par for the course. If he kept the same number the texts would be kept. If he switched numbers, which famous people regularly do, then he would lose them. The actual act of destroying the phone means nothing.
So Brady destroyed the phone that he wasn't going to allow them to access anyway.
Like everything else in this case, it will garner public outcry, but doesn't hold much water.
Like everything else in this case, it will garner public outcry, but doesn't hold much water.
JayMags71 said:
I don't know about "spinning it". This is SOP when *I* get a new cellphone and i'm just a regular dude.
The text messages would still be on an iPad if Brady was sending to a person with an iPhone.
Also, how the fuck does the NFL know that he had 10,000 text messages if the information was destroyed and didn't have access to it?
Also, how the fuck does the NFL know that he had 10,000 text messages if the information was destroyed and didn't have access to it?
So many of you keep hoping for this and yet, at every turn the news is bad.
The destruction of the phone changes my opinion from "I don't know or care," to "He knew something obviously." But 4 games is still way too many for a stupid, stupid offense with no impact on the game.
I still don't understand what they expected to find on the phone. The had the Dorito Dink's phones. They had other staff and team personnel. They had all communication between Brady and these people. What were they looking for, Bradytexting his dad with a "Gee I sucked, Dorito Dink didn't deflate enough today"
He refused access anyway. Wiping the phone that was in use in the time means nothing, since he wasn't obligated to (nor would he) turn it over anyway. He also refused to pick and choose "relevant" texts because that would open up lines of inquiry the NFLPA would never agree to. This is just the NFL continuing its smear campaign.
It's pretty sad when Brady and his ace legal team spent an entire day in NY pleading his case and could not get a single game knocked off his suspension. Maybe the NFL does have it out for Brady ...but I have said all along..ya he probably wanted the ball a certain inflation and never for a second expected it to come back to haunt him. Well, it did ...just survive the first four games at 2-2 and move on. This too will pass.
Drocca said:
Holy shit, something bad happened to the Pats and you're magically here to troll. I'm shocked.
Last time I checked the NFL and Wells don't have subpoena power so Brady can do whatever he wants with his phone.
Deadspin seems to think the phone thing is a joke at least.
http://deadspin.com/nfl-upholds-tom-bradys-four-game-suspension-1720647254
There is no guarantee, of course. But Article III judges do not in the main give a rat's ass about hotsportstakes. They don't care about Francesa, or SAS, or Mike and Mike -- or Felger and Mazz. They decide the case before them.HomeBrew1901 said:
I thought the 4 game suspension would be upheld, and it was.
I thought TB would win a PI to enjoin the suspension pending a final ruling on the merits -- and I still do.
TB emerges from this not an iota worse. The cell phone story would have eventually come out.
HomeBrew1901 said:
Which Boston media member decided tihs for you? You should always be required to cite your work.
Tom E. Curran @tomecurran 21s21 seconds ago
Source told me earlier today when I asked about broken cell phone report, "There is more to it than that." Perhaps. Still a dubious move.
Source told me earlier today when I asked about broken cell phone report, "There is more to it than that." Perhaps. Still a dubious move.
Mike Garafolo @MikeGarafolo 22s23 seconds ago
Per Goodell's ruling, Tom Brady's previous cell phone (used til 11/6/14) was not destroyed. Only the one he used from then thru early March.
Per Goodell's ruling, Tom Brady's previous cell phone (used til 11/6/14) was not destroyed. Only the one he used from then thru early March.
To be fair, the whole appeal "process" with this situation seems like an absolute joke/kangaroo court (at best) and thus, I feel like RG upholding the suspension is not overly surprising in the least.genoasalami said:
soxhop411 said:
I assume it was in the letter from the cell phone carrier.
If this is all true, it changes my opinion on the entire matter. Not the part about how ridiculous the entire thing is, but Brady's involvement. Switching out the phone on the day of the Wells Report interview goes beyond suspicion for me. What I don't understand is why Brady and his counsel would acknowledge it at all. Doesn't seem brilliant.
jsinger121 said:
So damn what? There are literally a million reasons why this could be so that aren't nefarious, not to mention the fact that he was playing football in cold whether in November. Plus, oh yeah, he had no obligation to maintain or turn over his personal property. Frankly, even if he wasn't Tom Brady, he's married to one of the world's most famous women; he'd be an idiot not to take a sledgehammer to his old phones whenever he damn well pleased.
Damn it, copy and paste didn't work from the other thread.dcmissle said:
Honest question, how much do you think that this suspension was upheld because Brady and the NFLPA decided to dig in their heels and threaten to go to court if Brady was given any games?
I'm sorry can you point me to which decision has gone the Patriot's way? Maybe the one where Kraft threatened to sue then didn't. Oh you mean how the suspension was knocked down to 1 game? Wait that didn't happen either.( . ) ( . ) and (_!_) said:
Curious about something and it's probably so far out there that it doesn't matter. What if Brady said some racial stuff or was getting something on the side from one of the many girls that throw themselves at him and was afraid of getting this stuff leaked? I see that as really one of the only reasons not to just hand over his phone. I think we all know in this society if it was found on his phone then it would have leaked eventually.
jsinger121 said:
No, but it sounds like Brady willingly provided it. Not only that letter, but the information that the phone records were gone to begin with. I just don't understand why anyone would think that's a good idea, even if the explanation was innocent (which I find unlikely, if true).
Right, but they weren't asking for his entire phone, just the texts related to this issue. I agree it's smart for him to constantly switch out his phone, but the timing of this doesn't look good. Let's see if there's a response.
Classy move to release this just three hours before the Red Sox retire Pedro's number, effectively taking the headlines away from Pedro.
