Deshaun Watson Done for the Year

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Deshaun Watson... non contact knee injury in practice. No link.. XM radio.

Hope it's not true.
 

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Brutal. Watson and Watt. Feel horrible for Watson too he seemed to really be hitting his stride.
 

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That's really terrible, especially coming off that epic game last week. And I assume ACL means he's out at least until this time next year.

How about Kaepernick?
If any team should give him a try, Houston would be the one. Their players are prepared for a running QB and I assume their offense was somewhat simplified so that Watson could pick it up quickly as a rookie.

And, of course, McNair could take a big step to rehabilitating his image by approving signing Kaep.

But it won't happen.
 

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Not as bad as Bridgewater, but same deal. Non contact, practice

Half way thru, 2017 is already well beyond “this happens every year.”
 

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Not as bad as Bridgewater, but same deal. Non contact, practice

Half way thru, 2017 is already well beyond “this happens every year.”
Any evidence of that? It's true that a bunch of particularly well known players have been hurt but any evidence that there have been in the aggregate more injuries?
 

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Any evidence of that? It's true that a bunch of particularly well known players have been hurt but any evidence that there have been in the aggregate more injuries?
Yeah, the names involved in the injuries are colossal. Zach Miller split his leg in half and that wasn't much of a story and the biggest part of that story was the NFL's idiotic interpretation of the catch rule. Nobody will remember him in a month. But Rodgers and Watson are just humongous losses for the NFL.
 

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That's really terrible, especially coming off that epic game last week. And I assume ACL means he's out at least until this time next year.



If any team should give him a try, Houston would be the one. Their players are prepared for a running QB and I assume their offense was somewhat simplified so that Watson could pick it up quickly as a rookie.

And, of course, McNair could take a big step to rehabilitating his image by approving signing Kaep.

But it won't happen.
Yeah I don't think Kap is good, but this would be, frankly, the clear and obvious spot for him for all the reasons you just gave.

But....

Matt McGloin instead.

Holy crap.
 

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That Kap is currently suing the league and the last time a team considered signing him, his girlfriend called their owner a racist on Twitter?
 

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He knows the system from playing under O'Brien at Penn State. In this kind of situation, that is advantageous.
I mean.... is Bill O'Brien running the same system in the NFL that he ran 5 years ago in College? I would hope not.

Also.........


Matt McGloin is terrible at playing football and immobile, who cares if he knows the system if he has none of the skills it takes to play in that system?
 

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The list of QBs clearly inferior to him that have jobs gets another member:
Matt McGloin signing with Houston
MATT
MCGLOIN

MATT

FUCKING


MCGLOIN
This is great news. When Eli Manning falls over in the shower and they hire Phil Simms out of the broadcast booth to come down there and remind people of the good ol' days, it will only get funnier and funnier.
 

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That Kap is currently suing the league and the last time a team considered signing him, his girlfriend called their owner a racist on Twitter?
Probably a bigger factor is that Bob McNair owns them. This month is far from the first time people have pointed out that he's probably a racist, and definitely a pretty shitty person.
 

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I mean.... is Bill O'Brien running the same system in the NFL that he ran 5 years ago in College? I would hope not.

Also.........


Matt McGloin is terrible at playing football and immobile, who cares if he knows the system if he has none of the skills it takes to play in that system?
I'm sure it's not 100% the same, but a lot of the language and the play calls are. I'm not sure if you are grasping the situation. It's Thursday before a Sunday game. Is a QB who has never played in a system going to learn it enough in 2 days to play if needed? This isn't a blackballing Kaepernick situation. They need someone to backup Savage on short notice so they signed a player who is at least familiar with the offense. Stop making it into something it isn't.
 

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Maybe he is, but the guy that just got hurt was black if I'm not mistaken....
 

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I'm sure it's not 100% the same, but a lot of the language and the play calls are. I'm not sure if you are grasping the situation. It's Thursday before a Sunday game. Is a QB who has never played in a system going to learn it enough in 2 days to play if needed? This isn't a blackballing Kaepernick situation. They need someone to backup Savage on short notice so they signed a player who is at least familiar with the offense. Stop making it into something it isn't.
Jimmy G will be backing up Beathard in exactly that situation. If Kaepernick is your best chance to save you season, you go with him (maybe they don't believe he is).
 

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Any evidence of that? It's true that a bunch of particularly well known players have been hurt but any evidence that there have been in the aggregate more injuries?
Well we have the best old QB (or second best) and maybe the best young one out. GB and Houston have no shot (and Houston already had taken big hits on defense). The Giants were flawed, but they lost everyone at WR. Washington is out 2 of their 3 tight ends, their two best d-linemen, four of their five starting offensive linemen — 21 of their 53 roster players could not practice at all so far this week). Baltimore was badly hurt before the season got underway. Miami — Tannehill. New England — most valuable offensive player other than Brady; best defensive player; WR thin. Minnesota — who is starting at QB? Partial list ...

Here is a fairly recent list by team:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/injuries/pup
 
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Apparently, McNair signed off on working Kaep out. I'm not sure if it's just for publicity or not, but it's on the table.
 

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I'm assuming Kap would need to agree to drop the lawsuit before it ever got that far?
 

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Big blow for the league losing an exciting, young player for an up and coming team.

For the Patriots though...
 

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Any news if it’s same or different knee he tore v GTech? This was first season since that game he hasn’t worn a brace. Sucks. Kid was having an epic year.
 

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IANAL, but from being tangential to past legal situations would think the NFL lawyers are advising teams not to directly engage with someone who has an active lawsuit against them. In the spirit of "anything you do or say can be used against you in a court of law." Generally that seems to be a touchy situation: Kaep would probably only drop the lawsuit if he knew he was being signed, but teams are understandably nervous about bringing him in for a workout to see if he is in good shape to sign during an active legal situation...
 

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Ouch. You could tell from the post-game handshake that even Brady admired his skills. I guess it f’s over an AFC rival, but he’s an exciting player, and it sucks. Honestly it seems like the NFL season is just a war of attrition.
 

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This sucks. He is an exciting young QB to watch. Hopefully he comes back healthy, because knees are tricky, especially for mobile QBs.
 

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non-contact injuries are the devil's spawn. DW is so likeable too. F this sucks.


Trade Hoyer "back" to Texans now?

lol
 

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I'm genuinely sad by this.

Every TD he threw I thought of Dabo saying "these teams just passed on Michael Jordan" and how, SSS, prophetic he was at the draft.
 

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I mean.... is Bill O'Brien running the same system in the NFL that he ran 5 years ago in College? I would hope not.
It's the same basic system (same verbiage) with simplified protection calls. Err...the college system was a simplified version of the pro system the Patriots ran/run and the Texans currently run, I mean.
 

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I agree with that sentiment, but can't see a healthy Cle/SF beating any of the recent champions/contenders-NE, Atl, Den, Sea, etc.

Perhaps saying a .500 team or even a 4-6 wins team would be more appropriate.
 

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I have this theory that the lowest ranked team just before Week 1’s kickoff would beat that season’s SB winning team - in the health condition they are in Feb. - every year.
There's some merit to the general idea, but I think that "pretty good health" is already baked into the SB winner.