I'd love Kreider. He does possibly present some similar cap issues going forward that Louis does, though. RFA this year and will want a raise.
Bruins Trade Deadline 2016
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The Rangers apparently are "all-in" so I don't see them moving Kreider or any other roster players. The Rangers also traded most of their futures so I'm not sure they have much in the way of picks and prospects that intrigue me.
Dan Hamhuis interests me a bit. He can play. Rental though and I don't think he moves the needle enough to put them into the contender category. A Hamhuis/Vrbata package deal would be interesting.
Dan Hamhuis interests me a bit. He can play. Rental though and I don't think he moves the needle enough to put them into the contender category. A Hamhuis/Vrbata package deal would be interesting.
What is the story with Hamhuis this year? He has a career high ozs% at 52.3 compared to 45&46% last two years yet career worst offensive numbers with just 6A and -.3 OPS this season.
Hamhuis historically has been a very good defensive defenseman with some added offense. This year he seems to be a poor offensive defensemen who can still play some D. At least that is the picture the advanced stats seem to paint. Obviously I'm not watching Canucks games so I'm curious if that stats are portraying an accurate picture. If so I'm not sure where he fits on this team. I guess he is an upgrade over K Miller or Trotman but at what cost does it make sense?
Hamhuis historically has been a very good defensive defenseman with some added offense. This year he seems to be a poor offensive defensemen who can still play some D. At least that is the picture the advanced stats seem to paint. Obviously I'm not watching Canucks games so I'm curious if that stats are portraying an accurate picture. If so I'm not sure where he fits on this team. I guess he is an upgrade over K Miller or Trotman but at what cost does it make sense?
If the Rangers are all in for this year why wouldn't they want to swap out Kreider for Eriksson? It's a big upgrade for this season.
It just gives them roster flexibility for tomorrow. Assuming he clears, they can send him down. They have opened up 2 roster spots with Talbot/Shithead waived. Kemppainen and Pastrnak could also go down if needed to open 2 more. Only problem is after the deadline you are only allowed 4 call ups through the end of the season. So you don't really want to burn one by temporarily sending a guy like Pastrnak down to open a spot in a pinch.
In other news, now we're cooking
Edit: Dreger was replying to a tweet saying Minnesota was listening on Brodin.
In other news, now we're cooking
Edit: Dreger was replying to a tweet saying Minnesota was listening on Brodin.
Yes for 2 2nds and a 19 year old Finnish prospect. Staal would only sign his NMC for the Rangers. Carolina is retaining half his salary as well.
Haggerty (who has me blocked on Twitter) is saying that Loui to Minnesota talks are heating up.
Take it for what it's worth considering the source.
Take it for what it's worth considering the source.
I am not watching ATM but guessing this is the press conference to show we're trying etc so that if and when they do move him, they can point back to every effort to retain him - especially if they do not get a good deal in the process.
Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger 4m4 minutes agoIt's believed Boston's last offer on Eriksson was 4 yrs, $5.25 mil per. Could be a year or two and just under $1 mil per yr light.
Haha, "If you can't trade Loui by tomorrow, will you keep him for the rest of the year?"
Nice question, guy.
Nice question, guy.
I agree, but at the same time I just got NESN back this week (out of towner), and so I haven't seen any of Sweeney's PC's this year. I'll be honest, I am a lot more comfortable with him after hearing him discuss the future and where he sees the team at right now, because it seems like he has a very realistic view of the team's strengths and weaknesses.
I may be way off base on this, but that's what I took out of today.
It's typical every year to hold a PC the day before the deadline. It's regularly scheduled and a chance for the writers to get some quotes.
All that said it's pretty useless.
Don't know what people expected him to say.
I'm not sure what they do in the next 23 hours. Seems like the Eriksson gap is sizeable. I'd trade him, maybe they feel otherwise.
I'm not sure what they do in the next 23 hours. Seems like the Eriksson gap is sizeable. I'd trade him, maybe they feel otherwise.
McKenzie is also reporting that they are listening on Brodin. If Sweeney could walk out of this trade deadline a bit lighter in picks and guys named Loui, but flush in a guy named Brodin? I am all on board with that.
With Ladd and Staal gone, Loui is the best piece left on the market. Anaheim, St. Louis and Minnesota hopefully bidding against one another does sound appealing.
Big decision for Sweeney. I say Eriksson moves given the gap. Nabbing Brodin would give me a hockey boner for a few days, so I doubt he pulls that off. Still, it appears there is some really good deal potential out there.
I'm honestly not super familiar with Brodin. Do the advanced stats really like him or something? He's young, but he has fewer points than Joe Morrow in nearly twice as many games, which is a bit concerning for a guy who appears to be primarily a puck moving D-man (at least from my Googling).
What a ridiculous low-ball offer. If they don't offer him 5 years at $5.5m by tomorrow morning, this is going to Boychuk all over again. Make an effort, Jacobs.
It's believed Boston's last offer on Eriksson was 4 yrs, $5.25 mil per. Could be a year or two and just under $1 mil per yr light.
Possession metrics liked him last year, but he's got a 44CF% this year which is not good.
Dumba is a better player, but I've always just liked Brodin. He's a very smooth and solid all around player, but I'm not sure I would describe him as an offensive defenseman. He is only 22 and is a solid skater. I would love for the Bruins to nab him or Dumba.
So you think one more year at $250k more per year makes it a serious offer? Ridiculous low ball is a stretch.
Ok, I'm emotional -- I've been a Loui fan since he was in Dallas, and the Bruins aren't exactly deep in wingers.
An extra year is an extra $5.5m, and I would imagine that matters to Loui. That's a lot of guaranteed money. If I could type that post again, I'd say 4 years is a low-ball offer, considering he can probably get 6 years (and a guaranteed $10m or so) from another team.
But this team is still up against the cap with paydays coming for Marchand, Krug, Spooner, and Pastrnak in the next two years. That's why I said, Sweeney needs to think about 2018 as much as 2016 when it comes to Loui.
They've got $6.8m in cap space right now, according the General Fanager, and that includes $2.75m on the Lucic contract that comes off the books next year. If they don't keep Kelly, that's another $3m off the books for next year.
But you're right Krug is in line for a raise of at least $1m, and Marchand is probably worth $7m a year for a whole bunch of years.
I can see the cap squeeze coming, but I just hate the thought of making the team worse for the rest of this season and next season when you've got Bergeron, Rask, Krejci and Marchand in their prime.
I've been in the "trade Eriksson" camp all year, and my thoughts on it haven't changed. The core isn't about to fall off a cliff and the team has a bunch of young talent, but it also has a bit of a cap squeeze coming up and could clearly use another good D-man (if not two). If you can help shore up the defense by moving Loui, while bringing in another cost controlled piece for the future, I think you have to do it. If Bergeron, Rask, etc., were all 32 or 33, I could buy it, but this is not the year you go all in for fear that the core is on its last legs.
You hold press conferences because the media demand you get up and respond to their question. If the answer is 'no we are not trading this person' then it isn't actually saying 'nothing'. It is saying something. That something is a way of addressing media enquiries and establishing where you. You do it as an all-in because if you respond piecemeal, especially in today's bullshit media world where everyone who is issued or provided a response with a word that's different to anyone else will slap an 'exclusive' tag on it, you are suffocating yourself and actually making it worse by not just coming out and killing the conjecture.
Everyone keeps mentioning the core of this team as being Bergeron, Krejci, Marchand and Rask. The glaring omission is at D. You can't win a cup without a very good D corp. Simply doesn't happen. Chara is clearly on the back nine and could fall off a cliff any year now. Krug is a 3/4 offensive specialist and they don't have another serviceable #3 D on the roster and the only possible minors help in the next two years is Colin Miller who for some reason is already persona non-grata with Claude. I'd say this team needs to add at least 2 top 4 D before they are going to be serious contenders again. Their D gets exposed time and again against playoff caliber competition.
As much as I love Loui I don't think this team can compete with that much cap space tied up at wing (assuming Marchand ext) given the state of the defense.
As much as I love Loui I don't think this team can compete with that much cap space tied up at wing (assuming Marchand ext) given the state of the defense.
I think the hope is that between Zboril, Lauzon, and Arnesson - you have at least 2 guys who can be solid #2's, and one a #3 type defenseman. Maybe if you're lucky Zboril becomes that #1 type.
But your overall point is right. They need a true #1 if they are going to be a real threat to win the Cup. But their corps of D prospects is pretty promising.
But your overall point is right. They need a true #1 if they are going to be a real threat to win the Cup. But their corps of D prospects is pretty promising.
My hope for today is they find a young D top 4. Not sure it can be done, but trying to land one would be my #1 goal. With or without trading Loui.
@DarrenDreger: Bruins are a major player today. Working on Hamhuis/Russell...considering Eriksson trade options. Lots of discussions in Boston.
Dreger - Western conference team says the ask from Boston for Eriksson is a top player and prospect. Team is balking at the price...for now.
To those of you that follow the rest of the league much better than I do, what are some reasonable packages/players we could see for Loui today? Could you give any short details on what kinds of players these guys are, in these hypothetical trades?
Look at the Andrew Ladd deal from a few days ago. WPG got a 1st and a top prospect for him. Eriksson is thought of as a better player than Ladd so Sweeney should be starting talks at the Ladd package and go up from there.
I'm excited and nervous at the same time.
I just want Sweeney to improve the team this year. I NEED PLAYOFF HOCKEY!
I just want Sweeney to improve the team this year. I NEED PLAYOFF HOCKEY!
This is interesting because most of the people on "Hockey twitter" seem to think that Brodin is a much better player than Dumba, although I guess it's more fair to say that Brodin is a much better fit for the Bruins than Dumba. Is there any reason for this? I would guess that Brodin is more ready to play now?
Also, is he good enough that the B's would have to add more than Eriksson to get him? That seems to be the consensus on twitter (which admittedly isn't the end all be all)
Who is Russell? I know Hamhuis but haven't heard of any Russell trade discussions
I would be comfortable moving him if they can get that top 4 Dman back, and keep him here for at least through all of next season with a good chance it is longer. Anything less than that, including picks, I am not interested in moving Loui as the benefit for this year and a potential playoff experience for the younger guys is more important.
I'm in the same boat, RB. If the return isn't good enough, I'm fine with playing out the year and having some playoff hockey.
My issue with keeping him is that the defense has me expecting a 1st round exit anyway, in which case it's going to look pretty stupid not getting an inflated package at the deadline for Loui after he signs a monster contract elsewhere.
