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Boomer & Carton

Discussion in 'Our Errors are Mistakes: The Media Forum' started by jmm57, Sep 6, 2017.

  1. Patriot_Reign

    Patriot_Reign Member SoSH Member

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    The story seems so strange, like what did he think the end game would be? People giving them millions of dollars and then never receiving anything in return, like that would just go unnoticed?
     
  2. Byrdbrain

    Byrdbrain Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    He may have figured going to Federal prison was a better option than what would have happened to him if he didn't pay off whoever he owed.
    Other than that it doesn't make any sense at all, eventually it was going to come crashing down on him.
     
  3. nattysez

    nattysez Member SoSH Member

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    He was trying to set up a Ponzi scheme. But he's an idiot.
     
  4. Buck Showalter

    Buck Showalter Member SoSH Member

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    Exactly.

    Someone would have killed him or hurt his family.
     
  5. edmunddantes

    edmunddantes Member SoSH Member

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    He just needed to keep the money going until he hit the inevitable hit streak. Remember he's a gambler. He always thought he'd get it back.
     
  6. Vinho Tinto

    Vinho Tinto Member SoSH Member

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    Small world. The company I used to work for has Brigade as a client. I worked on their account for about 4 years. In the Deadspin article, Carton described them as buttoned up and I would agree. My impression was that they had strong operational controls and due dillegence. That they would get duped by a sports radio idiot is shocking to me. The 4 million lost is nothing compared to redemption requests they will get.
     
  7. RedOctober3829

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  8. bankshot1

    bankshot1 Member SoSH Member

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    I just tuned in to the last 1/2 hour of Boomer and Phil.

    And it Phil was fine.BUT

    Lets call it serendiptious that Carton got busted when he did, (except for him) because Phil can talk football with Boomer, but I suspect his portfolio is not very deep or diversified.

    I suspect some exec/producer at WFAN has been calling for a line-up of back-ups for the last 24 hours.
     
  9. soxfan121

    soxfan121 JAG Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Wait... Phil Simms talking for a half an hour was "fine"?

    What sort of masochist are you @bankshot1?
     
  10. kenneycb

    kenneycb Hates Goose Island Beer; Loves Backdoor Play SoSH Member

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    And bookies don't have contacts in prison?
     
  11. Byrdbrain

    Byrdbrain Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    The theory was that the bookies have now been paid off with the investors money and he "only" owes his investors who I assume are softer types.
    I don't think it worked out that way and in the end he probably owed the investors and the bookies but it may have been the original idea.
     
  12. VORP Speed

    VORP Speed Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    He robbed Peter to pay Paulie

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  13. kenneycb

    kenneycb Hates Goose Island Beer; Loves Backdoor Play SoSH Member

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    That one makes sense as well as the theory that he was using the money to let it ride and win some back. That way there's an actual end game instead of just shuffling money around from one source to another.
     
  14. Domer

    Domer Well-Known Member Bronze Supporter SoSH Member

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    The SEC complaint adds some more color.

    WRIGHT listed eight possible options for re-paying the debt, including "Run to Costa Rica, change name, and start life all over again - may not be an option."

    From the charging document, it sounds like Carton and Wright thought they could make legitimate profits, but they overstated what they had access to.
     
  15. 24JoshuaPoint

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    It does make more sense. I still had trouble with the whole scheme. So he owes $2 and gets $4 from investors, half of which he bets on the Nets. That theory also still carries the gamblers mentality too - i can make it back with one nice run before the investors figure out their investment isn't gaining anything. And if they did he could refund them 100% of their investment (if the gambling worked out) and just say ooops sorry. And him and his family are safe.

    As others mention the burden of weight on his back this must have been is unfathomable. I get upset over losing a Big Y gold coin in a pair of pants or under a dresser or between the seats in the car. That shit is worth a free slice of pizza.
     
  16. cheekydave

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    WFAN says it's accepted resignation of Craig Carton @cc660, charged in a Ponzi scheme. He has said he's not guilty.
     
  17. RedOctober3829

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    Carton has released a statement of resignation.
    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sq6cc2
     
  18. Winger 03

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  19. uncannymanny

    uncannymanny Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    I miss Boomer and Carton as someone who listened pretty much daily on my commute. He and Boomer played so well off of each other, and by himself Boomer is just a boring, hockey-obsessed, ex-jock dimwit (though on the scale of sports journalism...). I similarly have no interest in hearing Carton on his own.
     
  20. Buster Olney the Lonely

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    Tuned in this morning: Greg Giannotti is in the cohost chair and the logo on the front of desk now says “Boomer and Gio.” This was a good pairing, in my opinion.
     
  21. Vinho Tinto

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    A good friend listens to Boomer every morning and he’s been thrilled with the hiring of Giannotti. He also liked Jerry Recco. Strange to hear all of these prior sports flash and producers become on air talent.
     
  22. RedOctober3829

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    Carton has been found guilty on all counts.

    Breaking: Ex-WFAN host Craig Carton guilty of defrauding investors to pay gambling debts

     
  23. shawnrbu

    shawnrbu Member SoSH Member

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    What's he looking at? House arrest?
     
  24. ifmanis5

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    Try up to 45 years in prison.
     
  25. joe dokes

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    Depends on the size of the fraud, how many victims, etc.
    It will not be anything close to 45 years. Actual sentencing doesn't just add up the maximum sentences of all the charged crimes.
    Probably closer to 5-10.
     
  26. TheBoomah

    TheBoomah Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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  27. shawnrbu

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    Carton will be in studio with Kay at 5 PM on Monday. Surprised he won’t be on the FAN. One last shot at Francesa.
     
  28. Vinho Tinto

    Vinho Tinto Member SoSH Member

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    What a downfall. He had one of the best radio jobs in America and is now awaiting sentencing. I saw the government is seeking 7 years via a court reporter on Twitter.
     
  29. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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    Carton got 3.5 years in prison and 3 years of probation.
     
  30. Patriot_Reign

    Patriot_Reign Member SoSH Member

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    Seems like a pretty light sentence all things considered prison wise.
    Although given his impending bankruptcy and loss of wife/ family at age 50 his life is fucked.
     
  31. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    Why isn't he going to prison right away? Why wait until July? Just gives him time to hurt himself or others.
     
  32. richgedman'sghost

    richgedman'sghost Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Guess he needs time to get his affairs in order. I do not think he is a threat to hurt others physically if that's what you mean. Carton is also undergoing theraphy at this time.
     
  33. h8mfy

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  34. E5 Yaz

    E5 Yaz Transcends message boarding Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    from Peter King's colum:


    “Colleen from New York. First time, long time.”

    —Colleen McMahon, the federal judge who sentenced popular New York sports-talk host Craig Carton to three-and-a-half years in prison on Friday, beginning her sentencing decision with a classic talk-show refrain in federal court.
     
  35. Dehere

    Dehere Member SoSH Member

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    Am I overreacting or is it shockingly unprofessional for a federal judge to taunt a defendant before taking his freedom away? And then King relays it like it’s just adorably clever. Not to say Carton doesn’t deserve the sentence itself.
     
  36. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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    Carton is going to be on at 5 pm with the Michael Kay Show.
     
  37. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    She was being cute more than taunting, I read elsewhere she said she was a fan who listened to him every day. Not sure why she didn’t recuse herself initially...
     
  38. dcmissle

    dcmissle Deflatigator Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    It is stunningly unprofessional. I am all for poetic license in written judicial opinions, but this sort of decision is no place for that.
     

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