The catcher needs to get out of his crouch and assure an accurate throw back to his pitcher, yes?semsox said:
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Who the fuck is the hamster in the umpiring crew? He needs some serious root canal treatment asap so they'd better get this decision sorted - NOW!!!
BestGameEvah said:
I don't think the catcher should have to avoid a bat that is over the plate or in the strike zone. But clearly (from this new overhead angle), that's not the case as Choo's bat is entirely in the box.
And apparently I am wrong and they are sticking with the clusterfuck.Average Reds said:
And to me, this is a legitimate protest, because they ignored the fact that time was clearly called.
I say this with the absolute understanding that if they call it correct the first time he easily scores.
gameday says "Umpire review (rules check)"E5 Yaz said:
Is that really in the reviewable category? they can review a play to check the rules?
This is a fucking joke. To me one of the biggest cluster fucks of not THE biggest one I've ever seen in baseball. It's a shame that a team may lose because of this. At least make the other team earn it. Completely ruins a great game
He walked a home run all the way back to home plate, or a touchdown back to his own goal line.jon abbey said:
Average Reds said:
Well, yeah, but so what? Imagine a play where none of this shit happened, but a runner was two thirds of the way to the next base and the umpire improperly called time. You think the defense should "win?" Because I don't.
He was comparing this to a pitcher dropping the ball and it rolling away. I mean, that has nothing to do with the issue. He is the absolute worst.jon abbey said:
scotian1 said:
I really have no idea what the right outcome ought to be here, but that bat was never over the strike zone.
The replay they just showed with Scott saying "no no no no no no" is only going to make this worse. Because he was as clear as he could be that it was a dead ball.
Unless the Jays come back, this one will have a long shelf life.
Unless the Jays come back, this one will have a long shelf life.
Joe Sixpack said:
2-2 count on Choo, Martin throws the ball back to Sanchez, but on the way it hits Choo's bat and caroms between Sanchez and SS, like a perfectly placed bunt. A very alert Odor scores easily while the home plate ump is calling it a dead ball, but the reason I think that doesn't matter (unlike football, I guess) is that the defense had absolutely no chance to get Odor.
Given what happened, what would be a legitimate outcome though?BoSoxFink said:
It's a freak play, but Martin fucked it up and texas shouldn't get screwed out of a run just because it's a weird play. They earnt it by getting a runner to 3b and that runner being alert on the play.
If anything Toronto earned having the run score against them.
Is it actually conceivable that this protest could be upheld, and that nothing happening from this point on in the game today will actually matter?
The idiots throwing stuff are one thing, but what mother brings a fucking new born baby to a rowdy loud playoff game???
Strikezone doesn't matter at all.ConigliarosPotential said:
And given the pace of play - batter stays in the box etc. I don't see how you can hold it against Choo for staying in there.
"4.19jon abbey said:
PROTESTING GAMES.
Each league shall adopt rules governing procedure for protesting a game, when a manager claims that an umpires decision is in violation of these rules. No protest shall ever be permitted on judgment decisions by the umpire. In all protested games, the decision of the League President shall be final.
Even if it is held that the protested decision violated the rules, no replay of the game will be ordered unless in the opinion of the League President the violation adversely affected the protesting teams chances of winning the game.
Rule 4.19 Comment: Whenever a manager protests a game because of alleged misapplication of the rules the protest will not be recognized unless the umpires are notified at the time the play under protest occurs and before the next pitch, play or attempted play. A protest arising on a game-ending play may be filed until 12 noon the following day with the league office."
Theoretically (and I use that word intentionally), Manfred could step in and rule that the game is picked up from before the play.
Wouldn't that be crazy.
Just be glad this didn't happen to the Cubs last night. Can you even imagine?
E5 Yaz said:
Umpires can rule a play dead once a runner takes off. A runner goes for 2nd on what looks to be a pass ball and then the ump rules it a foul ball. They don't say "Well, the runner already took off for 2nd so we can't stop the play".