2023-2024 General NBA Season Thread

benhogan

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Vucevic is now washed.

Beef Stew is an overpaid back-up Center.

and Monty/Detroit Mgmt is completely incompetent.

Yep, that ALL sounds about right...
 

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If you feel a bit insecure in your basketball acumen then take a deep breath and have faith……

There is currently an online debate on whether Bol Bol and Wemby are only divided by playing time.
 

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Steph with another absurd performance BUT Klay/Wiggins are just killing them.

Guess those Bron rumors weren't inspiring, what are the odds the Lakers leaked those trade discussions (100%?)
 

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Dumars would probably slap him on the wrist and say "Bad Boy".

The police getting involved in the situation and arresting Stewart pregame and citing him might change that punishment a bit more for Silver, tho.
Is there a precedent for suspension after an assault charge outside of an NBA game that was a players first offense? What’s he looking at here….1-2 games for violating conduct clause?
 

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Is there a precedent for suspension after an assault charge outside of an NBA game that was a players first offense? What’s he looking at here….1-2 games for violating conduct clause?
After sitting out for the entirety of the 2022-23 season, Miles Bridges was given a 30-game suspension from the NBA. During the 2023 offseason, Bridges signed a qualifying offer to return to the Hornets
 

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After sitting out for the entirety of the 2022-23 season, Miles Bridges was given a 30-game suspension from the NBA. During the 2023 offseason, Bridges signed a qualifying offer to return to the Hornets
I mean I don’t see how Bridges domestic assault history leading up to this suspension is remotely close to Stewart’s incident.
 

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I mean I don’t see how Bridges domestic assault history leading up to this suspension is remotely close to Stewart’s incident.
I think that was after Bridge's first assault of his wife. Later on he was accused of throwing billiard balls at the family car with the kids in it. BUT I could be wrong, hard to keep up with the craziness.

I imagine fighting another athlete, depending on the severity of the injuries, will get some kind of 1-10 game suspension.

The NBA will try to sweep it under the rug, & keep it quiet while they celebrate themselves during All-Star week.
 

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I think that was after Bridge's first assault of his wife. Later on he was accused of throwing billiard balls at the family car with the kids in it. BUT I could be wrong, hard to keep up with the craziness.

I imagine fighting another athlete, depending on the severity of the injuries, will get some kind of 1-10 game suspension.The NBA will try to sweep it under the rug, & keep it quiet while they celebrate themselves during All-Star week.
How many games did Draymond get for punching Poole?
 

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When is the last time a player was arrested for assaulting an opposing player, pregame or not? Seems unheard of.
Certainly I can't think of other examples involving an opposing player. The Malice in the Palace was mostly Pacers-vs-Fans, though it yielded 5 arrests of players.

The Gilbert Arenas "brought guns to the locker room" story, involving a dispute over winnings in a card game, apparently resulted in someone calling 911, but I don't think anyone got arrested. Years later, Arenas' counterparty in that dispute, Javaris Crittenton, was sent away for 23 years for manslaughter, so him shooting Arenas dead in the locker room right on the spot was not outside the realm of possibility. But that was a teammate, and unrelated to anything on-court.

Also intra-team was Charles Oakley hitting Charles Barkley in the face during a vote on ending the lockout in 1999.

Ja Morant admitted assault of a kid in a pickup game, under oath in court - he's getting civilly sued by the kid, but no criminal charges were involved. He was likewise investigated for the "Ja's friends threaten Pacers with guns" incident, after a verbal on-court dispute was taken off-court, but no criminal charges were filed for it (or for Ja's incident after that, for that matter). So that's pretty close here.

Speaking of assaulting a high school student in a pickup game, that's what Hornets draftee PJ Hairston did in 2014. Sonics player Joseph Forte also punched a guy in a pickup game in 2003, and a misdemeanor warrant was issued.

Another on-court incident that's somewhat close is noted shithead Kyle Lowry battering and threatening a female referee during a training game in Las Vegas in 2011. So maybe not "opponent", but someone else involved in a basketball game. He was later charged in early 2012, but not arrested on-site, from what I can tell. Sidenote: fuck Kyle Lowry.

Former Celtic Marvin Barnes, while at Providence College in 1972, assaulted a teammate by hitting him in the face with a tire iron, nearly blinding him. He pled guilty and got probation.

There was a brawl worthy of Ron Artest during an international game between Serbia and Greece in 2010; then-Thunder player Nenad Krstic grabbed one player by the throat, hurled a chair at another, and got arrested. This happened both on the court and in the tunnel to the changing rooms, so perhaps the closest I can find to the Isaiah Stewart incident we're discussing. There is video - see 1:08 for chair throw.

Most assault arrests for NBA players are at restaurants (Such as Draymond's), nightclubs (like Perk's, or Tony Allen's) or bars (Charles Barkley throwing a guy through a plate glass window, anyone?), and most of the rest are domestic violence (e.g. Darvin Ham). There's no shortage of any of those types, but they're categorically different.
 

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Zero from the League...because that was a one-off, it was practice, a Warriors internal issue, and it would never happen again.
I expect it to get brushed under the rug since it didn’t occur in an NBA arena and will be forgotten in a week (Ex: Giddey) as everyone moves on. If, and it’s a big if, the league did get involved as I said above I’d expect it to be very minimal. Could be wrong of course but I don’t see this being on anyone’s calendar to address aside from the court. It’ll probably get dropped there too.
 

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The Clippers have looked like they are the best team in the league for awhile now, but it's still just a moment in time. They weren't as bad as they looked when they were started off 0-5 with Harden, but they probably aren't as good as they looked when they had that 20-2 stretch with Kawhi (which ended with their blowout win over Boston) and everyone was crowning their ass. One of my favorite random facts from last year is that the team with the best record from December 1 through the end of the year (50 games) was...Philadelphia. Healthy Clippers have looked scary, but they're still led by the most injury prone superstar since Walton and a point guard with the richest history of playoff underachievement west of Pennsylvania.
There may even have been some here saying how good the Clippers looked DURING those first 6 losses following the Harden trade. Those are the types who always want to pat themselves on the fuckin back though. Jerks.
 

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Another defensive minded addition for the Bucks to counter their aging offensive stars… oh wait.
 

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Didn't see this clip of Klay intentionally fouling with the Warriors down 3 with 40 seconds left, to the chagrin of, well, everybody:


https://x.com/NBCSWarriors/status/1758013035040723376?s=20
Oh yeah. I was saying the other day he sounds fed completely defeated in an interview. The guy is mentally out of it now knowing he’s not getting paid after this season.
 

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I don't think he's done (plenty of HOF level guys have had to go through a mental adjustment before become effective role players off the bench, and I don't see any reason why Klay couldn't at least be as effective as someone like Hauser), but I have hard time seeing that happen in Golden State. Easier to accept a new role if it's in a completely new environment.
 

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The Grizz are currently fielding a starting lineup vs the Bucks that, if you add up all of their PPG… all 5 of them… yes, 5 of them… for a full game… total 29. The two starters off the bench are predominantly GG Jackson and… Lamar… Stevens. Yes. That Lamar Stevens.

They are tied with the Bucks who are playing at full strength, off of a blowout loss.

The Grizz have 57 points in the first half.
 

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The Grizz are currently fielding a starting lineup vs the Bucks that, if you add up all of their PPG… all 5 of them… yes, 5 of them… for a full game… total 29. The two starters off the bench are predominantly GG Jackson and… Lamar… Stevens. Yes. That Lamar Stevens.

They are tied with the Bucks who are playing at full strength, off of a blowout loss.

The Grizz have 57 points in the first half.
A tiny nit. Middleton is out due to his ankle, but that's no excuse for this halftime score. I fully expect the Bucks to run away with this in the final 24, but it's a poor look after a bad effort vs Miami.
 

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The Grizz are currently fielding a starting lineup vs the Bucks that, if you add up all of their PPG… all 5 of them… yes, 5 of them… for a full game… total 29. The two starters off the bench are predominantly GG Jackson and… Lamar… Stevens. Yes. That Lamar Stevens.

They are tied with the Bucks who are playing at full strength, off of a blowout loss.

The Grizz have 57 points in the first half.
Followed up by a 37 point 3rd quarter for the Mighty Grizz after a halftime reset for the Bucks to show any actual commitment to defense.
 

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A tiny nit. Middleton is out due to his ankle, but that's no excuse for this halftime score. I fully expect the Bucks to run away with this in the final 24, but it's a poor look after a bad effort vs Miami.
Currently down 10... but hard to think that this talent disparity isn't going to turn around at some point.
 

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Currently down 10... but hard to think that this talent disparity isn't going to turn around at some point.
Yeah. Jenkins is a great coach. He gets the most out of his guys. On some level, a few coaches might love these games with guys on ten day and two-way contracts battling to be re-upped or for their next roster spot on another team. Everyone not giving an inch to anyone.

But I can't see them getting another 17 point quarter from Zaire Williams
 

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Giannis has basically just driven full speed to the basket daring anyone to get into his way
 

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This is like a college game between two smalls schools that are terrible, except for one incredible player who will be a top 3 pick in the upcoming NBA draft
 

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Oh yeah. I was saying the other day he sounds fed completely defeated in an interview. The guy is mentally out of it now knowing he’s not getting paid after this season.
Klay removed from starting lineup tonight and he responds with a flashback Nuclear Klay game!
 

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The injuries for Memphis have been terrible but the silver lining is that Jackson and the Williamses are getting lots of valuable run. They are going to be a tough opponent next year.