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2019 Patriots: Post-SB Roster Thread

Discussion in 'Blinded by the Lombardis: Patriots Forum' started by RedOctober3829, Feb 4, 2019.

  1. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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    Free agent WR Bruce Ellington is signing a 1-year deal with the #Patriots, source said. He’s worked his way around the New England tree, now with the Pats.
     
  2. SeoulSoxFan

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    That's a great signing. If Tate works out, we've significantly upgraded at the WR position.
     
  3. moondog80

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    Meh. It's fine but the guy has been waived/cut 6 times in 4 years and has 79 career catches. It wouldn't be the first time they've found a diamond in the rough if that's how it works out, but I won't be shocked if he never suits up in the regular season.
     
  4. Harry Hooper

    Harry Hooper Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    If you're Clayborn, wouldn't you have wanted to be cut before teams spent a lot of money?
     
  5. rodderick

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    Great signing? A dude who hasn't produced anything meaningful at receiver and who has been plagued by hamstring issues? He caught 23 balls in 4 games for the Lions, but had a ridiculous 5.7 yards per catch.
     
  6. MillarTime

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  7. tims4wins

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    Yeah that's how I feel. Also doesn't return punts. Meh.
     
  8. Ferm Sheller

    Ferm Sheller Member SoSH Member

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    Was Cody Hollister not available?
     
  9. DavidTai

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    At least he doesn't count against the compensatory pick formula, if he was released by the Lions.
    Was kinda hoping for Maurice Harris, though.
     
  10. DeadlySplitter

    DeadlySplitter Member SoSH Member

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    Bills probably offered the biggest deal?
     
  11. rodderick

    rodderick Member SoSH Member

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    "Hoping for Maurice Harris" might as well be the name of the Patriots free agency subforum.
     
  12. Cellar-Door

    Cellar-Door Member SoSH Member

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    He has returned 48 punts in 44 career games for 7.8 yards per return
     
  13. PedroKsBambino

    PedroKsBambino Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    I like Bedard, but he's been trending towards Felger territory--he was also completely bearish on their defense and on Michel all year and throughout the playoffs.
     
  14. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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    Wow, Golden Tate signed with the Giants. Wondered what happened at the last minute($$$).
     
  15. rodderick

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    Hope the Pats explore the trade market. They need a receiver (preferrably two) and there's not much left out there in free agency now.
     
  16. DrewDawg

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    Well, AJ Green is still a potential trade target.

    There was too much Tate/Patriots talk. It never works out like that.
     
  17. tims4wins

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    Ah thanks - didn't show up when I looked in his game log. Also had 50 career KO returns.
     
  18. mcpickl

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    Besides the numbers being off since you replaced the cut guys with zeros, why would you cut Lawrence Guy?

    He's a bargain at his price.
     
  19. tims4wins

    tims4wins PN23's replacement SoSH Member

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    He already addressed this
     
  20. mcpickl

    mcpickl Member SoSH Member

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    Really?

    What did he say about Lawrence Guy?

    Can't find it.
     
  21. DavidTai

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    Ditto. I wasn't expecting Tate to be a Patriot because it seemed like he'd want too much, but the Giants came out of nowhere, it seems like.
     
  22. tims4wins

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    http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?...t-sb-roster-thread.26166/page-17#post-3310595

    "I should have been more clear. the intent of my post was to demonstrate the cap constraints the team has. Cutting those 5 guys would "only" net a max of $11 million (less, as pointed out in subsequent posts thanks to the rule of 51). I wasn't advocating getting rid of them. I just picked non-star players making "real" money who would provide "real" cap savings if cut"
     
  23. RedOctober3829

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    Free-agent safety Terrence Brooks has signed a 2-year deal with the Patriots, per source.
     
  24. PedroKsBambino

    PedroKsBambino Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Schefter reporting $23.5 mil guaranteed money for Tate. I'll bet Pats weren't close to that.

    These guys have short careers, I can never criticize someone for taking the money. Obviously, if he wanted to be on a winner it was only so big a factor in the end and that's up to him.
     
  25. tims4wins

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    Wait who
     
  26. E5 Yaz

    E5 Yaz Transcends message boarding Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    So much for Garry Booker
     
  27. mcpickl

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    Still don't see anything there that explains any sense out of cutting Lawrence Guy, but thanks for hall monitoring i guess?
     
  28. DavidTai

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    Think you picked too quickly - just go with 'who's overpaid / can be replaced with cheaper' for that sort of exercise instead, because there's no real point in just dumping people willy-nilly.
     
  29. tims4wins

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    Um how does "I wasn't advocating getting rid of them" not explain that. He clearly stated that the purpose of the exercise was to show that a few guys with "real" cap numbers still wouldn't move the needle a ton. Not that cutting guy made sense. In fact his point is pretty much the opposite.
     
  30. PedroKsBambino

    PedroKsBambino Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Dumping someone the caliber/salary of Guy is what you see an NBA team do in order to get a franchise-caliber max player. But the NFL is a completely different cap environment and those kinds of moves make no sense.
     
  31. tims4wins

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    Wasn't my post.
     
  32. Jed Zeppelin

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    Looks like a STer.
     
  33. tims4wins

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    Maybe then we won't spend a 2nd rounder on a ST safety??
     
  34. DennyDoyle'sBoil

    DennyDoyle'sBoil Found no thrill on Blueberry Hill SoSH Member

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    Seems like an Ebner replacement? Ebner is an expensive luxury but hard to see a guy like that go if this is what it means.
     
  35. mcpickl

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    Ummm, because he was pretty clearly picking guys he thought they could do without, right?

    That's why I was asking him, you know the guy who posted it, why he'd cut Guy.

    Because cutting guys like James White and David Andrews and Julian Edelman making right around what Guy does would save them even more, and they didn't make his cut list.

    You don't think the list of guys was picked at random, do you?
     
  36. tims4wins

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    Pretty obvious he picked guys who were not "critical" or team captains or whatever - his point that cutting some mid tier guys doesn't get you anywhere, so why do it?

    This whole argument is dumb. It was pretty clear what he was trying to say. The Pats are up against it cap wise and without a major move like a retirement or big time cut, they don't have much wiggle room. Is it that controversial or hard to understand?
     
  37. joe dokes

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    From my seat by the TV, and even though the number of tackles is solid, Ebner didn't seem to be the consistent force on ST that he had been prior to the knee injury.
     
  38. BigSoxFan

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    4/37 is reason for the market but, yeah, we weren’t touching that on a solid #2 WR who is 31 in August.
     
  39. DrewDawg

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    So we’re totally kicking the tires on Jordy Nelson right?
     
  40. DeadlySplitter

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    ah fuck off Giants, what do you need him for?

    onto the draft.
     
  41. BigSoxFan

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    Giants are officially the Harvey Dent of the NFL.
     
  42. DennyDoyle'sBoil

    DennyDoyle'sBoil Found no thrill on Blueberry Hill SoSH Member

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    Yeah. I agree. Only so much you can pay for glue guys, though I have no idea if that's what this means. You just can't get too attached to any of these guys.

    Whatever his skills, though, the couple of times a year the other team looks to be doing an onside kick it sure is nice to have Ebner on the field. He knows what's what.
     
  43. DrewDawg

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    True, but with rule change that’s a bit less important.
     
  44. RedOctober3829

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    #Patriots are signing former #Redskins WR Maurice Harris, source says. He was there on a visit with Bruce Ellington, who also will sign with New England, as @RapSheet said earlier.
     
  45. Ale Xander

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    I'm all for an incentive-laden contract to Jordy



    Pats confused Maurice Harris with his cousin?
     
  46. DennyDoyle'sBoil

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    Maurice Harris!
    Bruce Ellington!

    In related news, the Patriots are bringing Aaron Dobson back.
     
  47. RedOctober3829

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    Maurice Harris played 48.6 percent of his snaps in the slot last season, per @PFF. Inside/outside option. Not a burner. Listed at 6-3, 200 pounds. Had one drop on 29 catchable targets last year. Top-20 in terms of drop rate among receivers with at least 40 targets.
     
  48. DeadlySplitter

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    Jordy Nelson apparently spotted at Logan. (sorry if fake)

    [​IMG]
     
  49. jsinger121

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    I called this one on Harris. Knew they would bring him in due to his good hands and 3 cone drill
     
  50. DavidTai

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    I guess not any more.

    Maybe replace it with 'Jordy Nelson'?
     

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