2019 NFL: News & Transactions
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Typical millenial wanting someone else to do the work for you...
But, seriously, would be nice to say which new teams are involved instead of just the ones who aren't...
I wonder if the "not getting the best value in a trade" is part of BB's long-term strategy. If you constantly "win" trades, eventually people will not want to trade with you. If you are reasonable and almost magnanimous even in these negotiations, teams will be more eager to trade with you. I mean, he can't do this because he's stupid. Maybe it's as you suggest....maybe he just doesn't want the drama and so when he gets a deal he considers good enough, he pulls the trigger. I don't know.
Sorry for not being clear. Based on salary alone, there are only going to be limited number of trade partners available to the Steelers. I don't think the team can drive up Brown's trade value by pretending that there is more interest than there is. Rather, I think they are purposefully playing up the drama of the trade process so as to 'prove' that they got the best value to their fans.
We're 2 1/2 seasons removed from Jamie Collins being in Foxborough. Any interest in seeing if he 1) would return at a good value, and 2) if his time away - where he missed out on 3 Super Bowl appearances and 2 wins, has him more willing to follow the script in his age 30 season?
I'd absolutely take him, but probably not at the price some other team will arrive at.
I'd be interested if the level of discipline matches the talent... at the right money obviously.
Not really. Even if he buys in completely, I don't think he's going to be better than High or Van Noy and its important that young players like Bentley get some snaps and continue to develop as a longer term solution. So I don't see a need or a fit.
A guy like Collins isn't going to sign for peanuts either. Rightly or wrongly, he'll get $5M+ in AAV on a 2-3 year deal from someone.
The LB corps is thin as is and contains plenty of injury risks. I'd assume some team with boatloads of cap space (IND, NYJ) would outbid us.
FWIW, Twitter has been buzzing the last couple days about a huge move coming from the Browns. The most speculation about what it is has been Odell Beckham Jr to Cleveland for draft picks(one being the #17 pick) and Duke Johnson.
Oh my God, every player in every sport should have an agent like this.
The Heath Shuler reference is a savage hook to the ribs, the Bill Belichick reference the uppercut that turns lights out. Vintage Mike Tyson.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/06/kyler-murrays-agent-unloads-on-charley-casserly/
The Heath Shuler reference is a savage hook to the ribs, the Bill Belichick reference the uppercut that turns lights out. Vintage Mike Tyson.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/06/kyler-murrays-agent-unloads-on-charley-casserly/
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It's very interesting when you look around the league right now with the glut of QB's, would we even get close to the return we received last year for Jimmy G if we'd held onto him for another year and were trading him this year?
Not sure if I'm remembering correctly, but I thought there were rumors the Pats were sniffing around trading for Collins last year. (I know, rumors...)
Edit: found it.
https://www.patspulpit.com/2018/10/28/18036034/report-patriots-have-discussed-trading-for-former-patriot-jamie-collins
Bears held kicker tryouts.
Today they signed Chris Blewitt
https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/bears-plan-to-sign-kicker-chris-blewitt/
Today they signed Chris Blewitt
https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/bears-plan-to-sign-kicker-chris-blewitt/
Very unfortunate name for someone who often appears on the field when the game is on the line. At least he’s not a relief pitcher.
I am sitting next to my wife as I read this and asked her to guess the name of the new Bears kicker. She suggested "Doinky." But Blewitt is actually worse.
IdiotKicker and I were discussing him a few years ago, tried out for the Steelers to no avail. We both agreed, as unfortunate as his name is, it had to be as a personal favor to someone at Pitt. Neither of us seemed to think he had any kind of future in this league, and nothing has dissuaded me from such a stance. Baffling signing when a guy like Novak is available and looking really clean mechanically in the AAF.
I've seen you bring this up in other threads where you kind of couple the Patriots and Ravens together as model franchises, but I am not sure why. From 2013 through 2018, Baltimore has a record of 50-46. They have made the playoffs in just two of those six seasons, playing on Wild Card weekend both times. They have exactly one playoff win in six years. They had a great run from 2008 through 2012, but for more than a half decade since that time, they've been a mediocre franchise, hovering around the .500 mark, with no success to speak of, and a long list of excuses for why none of it is their fault.
They did a good job locking up Nick Boyle this week though. Great blocker, and underrated Tight End.
Agreed. They've won 1 playoff game since Edelman became a started. Think about that. They royally fucked up the Flacco contract, which is the single biggest thing that has held them back for the last 6 years.
Story is that he's cleaned up his mechanics since college and there was at least 1 former NFL kicker also at this tryout with Blewitt so it wasn't just him against no name guys.
And the Bears have 3 kickers on roster (although Parkey will be officially cut next week)--possibly Novak is waiting for a better position.
He never equated the two or said they were both model franchises. He grouped them both under the rubric of "better run teams" which seems pretty unobjectionable. If you want to make an argument that the Ravens have not been one of the better run teams in the league - which is obviously not something that only reduces to win-loss record - then go for it. But don't jump on him for something he didn't say.
Did I say “model”? I said better run, I believe. You can do certain things well, other things less well, and I was focused on the use of the tag.
Ravens have used the franchise tag twice in the last 6 years. On Ray Rice after he went for 2000 yards in total offense, and they quickly reached a deal. On Justin Tucker in 2016, who is easily the best kicker in the League, and they quickly reached a deal as well.
I think the Patriots have similarly been restrained this decade. And it’s smart because you don’t need the headache that comes with an unhappy player. So they are smart to let Moseley explore FA. If he leaves, he leaves.
Agree on Boyle. They kicked around Dwayne Allen before committing to Boyle, who is more versatile.
Edit — overall, Ravens have tagged 6 players in their 24-yr history.
Pats last used it on a kicker (2015) but did use it 8 times in 11 seasons between “02 - “12. They have changed this way of doing business.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.patspulpit.com/platform/amp/2018/3/7/17089928/patriots-have-only-used-the-franchise-tag-1-time-since-2012-gostkowski-lewis-solder-butler-flowers
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I don't think I was jumping on anyone, and that seems like an overly sensitive way of interpreting my post.
That aside, I also disagree that being a better run organization requires going deeper wins and losses when the record speaks for itself. Maybe it's semantics, but being "well run" and hovering around .500 with 1 playoff win in six seasons doesn't compute. They haven't suffered debilitating injuries or anything, and they've had consistency at the head coaching position for a good stretch. With those facts in evidence, you could argue that they are an underachieving organization who squandered opportunity at every turn for 6 straight years.
Just to get it clear up front, I did not intend to jump on you or anything, so I'm glad you didn't receive it that way. I also agree with the larger point. The franchise tag seems like a good way to ruin whatever relationship existed between player and organization.
I know you're a DC area guy, so you see a lot of Skins and Ravens, and obviously between the two, Baltimore is clearly better run, better managed, etc. I do think you frequently lump the Ravens in with other 'gold standard' franchises despite them not really earning the spot. Ozzie is a great guy, and man he built a good core back in the early 2000's, and got enough out of that group that with the additions, they pulled out another SB win at the tail end. I just don't see them as anything special today, or in the recent past.
It will be interesting to see what DeCosta can do with the pieces he was left with. Lamar Jackson has some promise, and now that Flacco is gone, the franchise can start fresh.
Ozzie was great but nobody’s perfect. His main weakness was QB, which is why until the Flacco season they had only one Lombardi and few deep playoff runs to show for team that consistently had a ridiculous defense and strong running game. One of his great strengths was not overpaying for players, especially defensive players, which comes with being confident that you can find the next great guy.
Edit. DeCosta so reminds me of Caserio that it’s scary.
Edit. DeCosta so reminds me of Caserio that it’s scary.
May be that the sources would not go on record to admit their teams were in the running.
It’s going to be great when the Pats land him for a 3rd round pick and conditional 2020.
Or the “trades by the end of the week” was just hot air by PIT trying to create an artificial deadline in an attempt to get other teams to get into a bidding war.
Raiders #35 for Brown I’m guessing. They still keep their 3 first rounders, but decent value for PIT.
Yeah, and their org priorities are pretty unique. They want juice heading into LV in 2020, that’s a big reason Gruden got tabbed.
And knocks out an obvious landing spot for ...
He comes in, competes with Colt, and they have QB depth ... sensible.
