Yankee opponents will be polishing up their bunting skills in spring training. CC's knee might not hold up thru April if every Red Sox hitter bunts on him.CC is back. 1 yr $10 million.
Yankee opponents will be polishing up their bunting skills in spring training. CC's knee might not hold up thru April if every Red Sox hitter bunts on him.CC is back. 1 yr $10 million.
Yeah totally agree. They fit the team’s future plans so well.Personally at this point, I make Torres, Andujar, Florial, Sheffield and Abreu off limits. Things can change once the season starts, Blake Rutherford was off-limits last offseason and gone in July, but right now I keep those five almost no matter what.
That represents a gutting of the farm system for a #3 starter and a reliever who could crash and burn tomorrow.More attractive IMO than Cole on PIT is Felipe Rivero, who has four years of team control and would be the top setup lefty for NY, people may remember I was eyeing him greedily some last year before the Kahnle/Robertson deal.
I'd give up a nice package for a Cole/Rivero combo, maybe something like Frazier/Abreu/Adams/Tate/Estrada plus Betances and his two years of control as a replacement closer/future trade asset.
I don't necessarily disagree, but if they do so, they should aim high and target a #1-caliber starter that they can team with Severino in a post-season series.That might be too much for one package (although it is more like two combined packages) but NY needs to do some kind of prospect consolidation at some point, they just have too many guys. McKinney isn't far behind Frazier, German/Sheffield/Acevedo/Heller/Carroll would all still be big impact arms fighting for a chance at a MLB spot with Abreu/Adams/Tate gone, and Solak is right behind Estrada.
Anyway, just an idea.
Yeah, I agree with that, but not sure who that would be who would actually be available. Patience, I guess...I don't necessarily disagree, but if they do so, they should aim high and target a #1-caliber starter that they can team with Severino in a post-season series.
Just look at how Verlander transformed the dynamic of Houston's rotation when he was obtained to complement Keuchel.
Cole is not the guy who can do that for the Yankees.
Why not add Torres in there for good measure?More attractive IMO than Cole on PIT is Felipe Rivero, who has four years of team control and would be the top setup lefty for NY, people may remember I was eyeing him greedily some last year before the Kahnle/Robertson deal.
I'd give up a nice package for a Cole/Rivero combo, maybe something like Frazier/Abreu/Adams/Tate/Estrada plus Betances and his two years of control as a replacement closer/future trade asset.
If y'all end up with Syndergaard....Yeah, I agree with that, but not sure who that would be who would actually be available. Patience, I guess...
Heh, Arrieta this winter and Machado next, just to make Angelos' head explode.I just saw that too. But it is something to think about. The market is moving soooo slowly, if it isn’t Moustakas maybe it is a pitcher like Jake Arrieta or Lance Lynn that would take a one year deal.
It's probably closer than Boras would have you believe. Frazier is the better defender, Mouse is a slightly better overall bat if you look at their wRC+ numbers from the last few years. Frazier is also two and a half years older. But Frazier on a 1 or 2 year deal would probably give you at least 85% of Moustakas who will likely get at least 5 and perhaps twice the AAV.Is Moustakas even better than Todd Frazier? Seems like Frazier’s D is a lot better in the minute I just spent investigating.
My Cashman appreciation is endless.Cashman dealt: Brendan Ryan, Rookie Davis, Eric Jagielo, Caleb Cotham, Tony Renda, Jorge Guzman, and Jose Devers. Cashman acquired: Giancarlo Stanton, Aroldis Chapman, Gleyber Torres, Adam Warren, Billy McKinney and Rashad Crawford.
Pirates know they aren't getting Torres, it's posturing to get a better prospect with Frazier. My guess is Cashman's floor is Adams but he's trying to get the Pirates to take Frazier and Estrada/Medina.I don't know anything more than anyone else, but my impression is that Heyman is behind this story and Passan wouldn't have made that post if NY/PIT hadn't moved past Torres. Torres is NY's starting 2B now (if not on Opening Day, shortly afterwards) and there is no way Cashman would move him for Cole.
I think Frazier and Adams is an overpay. A top 20 prospect in baseball and Frazier who they can put right into their OF. Cole is not an ace and that's an ace package.But yeah, something like Frazier, Adams and Estrada or Solak seems pretty fair.
If Adams is the centerpiece of this deal, I'd be OK with it if I was a Yankees fan. If it's Adams plus another top prospect, then it's too much.
What do we gauge Adams ceiling at? Someone who is good but not quite an ace? Like a Michael Fulmer-type?
It's going to be more than that.If Adams is the centerpiece of this deal, I'd be OK with it if I was a Yankees fan. If it's Adams plus another top prospect, then it's too much.
More than what? It should be a multiple prospect package involving Adams as the centerpiece. If it's, say, Adams-Frazier and filler that's a pretty big price to pay IMO.It's going to be more than that.
I get what you're saying but his value in the market is higher than his value to the Yankees. It doesn't mean he's a throw-in."Too much" is really relative, for me a lot of it is whether guys are blocked or not.
Frazier is blocked from ahead (Judge/Stanton/Gardner/Hicks) and Florial is fast rising plus McKinney has a lot of upside too, he was better than Frazier in AAA last year and is the same age.
Adams is more ready than Sheffield and Abreu now, but both of them might be ready this summer and have higher upsides, plus there are six other guys ahead of Adams if they get Cole.
That would be what I hang my hat on. Until I see Cole's performance be better than his previous two years though, I'd be pretty upset if we give up two top guys.I'm all for trading, even over paying a bit, with prospects when the return provides a degree of certainty for the production needed at a given position. I'm just not sure what to think about Cole. He was awesome in 2015. Less so this past season, but with flashes of quality.
The Yankees seem to assess talent pretty well, their own as well as others. If they really want Cole, hard not to trust them even if the price appears high.