2015 Jets: Back on Track

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I can't find anything on Sanchez to Buffalo.  Are Jets fans just hopeful he doesn't sign with them? 
 
Is so, why?
 

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I can't find anything on Sanchez to Buffalo.  Are Jets fans just hopeful he doesn't sign with them? 
 
Is so, why?
 
I think it's the "if he and Rex are good together, we won't be able to stand it" factor. Very, very small chance but I can see why Jets fans would fear such a scenario. "It coulda been us! We coulda been contendahs!!"
 

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How typical is this? It would seem to foster CYA type behavior if things do not go well, rather than having the GM and HC working together.
Dolphins are doing the same thing, hilarious.
 

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What a weird formulation.  Would the Pats official twitter say Bob or Krafty has hired X?  Is it an ego thing or an attempt to build some famialirity between fans and ownership?
 
I remember when he was Robert. Then he became Bob. 
 
Model-dating, Goodell-defending ...now Krafty works pretty well. Thank goodness Jonathan seems to be in charge of the day-to-day, as Krafty's decline phase is likely to have more awkward dancing in public.
 

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Well, the Jets seem to have bumbled on what on the surface seem to be a pretty good tandem in Bowles as HC and Gailey as his OC -- under Gailey the offense might join the 21st century.
 
Of course, impossible to know how a DC like Bowles will transition into a HC position, but at least the clown show is over. The new GM is more questionable, hard to be impressed given the lack of league-wide excitement, but that's just tea-leaf reading. Time will tell.
 
If nothing else, the Jets look like they'll be quasi-normal for a while, anyway.
 

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Tony C said:
Well, the Jets seem to have bumbled on what on the surface seem to be a pretty good tandem in Bowles as HC and Gailey as his OC -- under Gailey the offense might join the 21st century.
 
Of course, impossible to know how a DC like Bowles will transition into a HC position, but at least the clown show is over. The new GM is more questionable, hard to be impressed given the lack of league-wide excitement, but that's just tea-leaf reading. Time will tell.
 
If nothing else, the Jets look like they'll be quasi-normal for a while, anyway.
That might be the biggest takeaway from a Pats-centric perspective. Bowles is supposed to be a pretty reserved guy. Also, Parcells is his big mentor and with BB and the Tuna mending fences, I don't see a lot of heat between Bowles and Belichick. Its going to be quite the change.

And then we'll have Rex in Buffalo, talking shit to everybody.
 

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I'm on the wait and see plan with Bowles. Arizona had a stout defense before he was running it.

I am pretty excited about Gailey though, there are some questions but he has done a lot with marginal talent before.

Overall it is pretty boring. Maybe Woody is learning.
 

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There's nothing, I mean nothing that the NY sports back pages do better than set up new faces to fail. 
 
MacDaddyG & Todd "Super" Bowles will be hailed as the duo that will harness the talent (i.e., DL) and cap (i.e., everywhere else) to finally bring Jets to a SB game. 
 
Then after 2-3 more years of futility, the same pages will be filled with quotes from anonymous sources, news of "not fitting in", Woody needing to put his foot down, comparisons to Kottite years, etc. 
 
Same Old Jets (Media). 
 

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Chan Gailey officially hired as OC tonight, there was some doubt in recent days but now it's definite.
 

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@MikeReiss: Former Patriots assistant coach Pepper Johnson hired as Jets linebackers coach, the Jets announce.
He's officially dead to BB now.
 

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Rex Ryan speaking like he had no culpability in 4-12 season. True, he didn't get much help from Idzik, but it wasn't 1 man's fault.
 

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That's got to be the least surprising development in the history of forever. Rex Ryan declaring himself blameless? That Rex Ryan? You don't say. The NY media should have already known he'd do this.
 

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Keep in mind that's a Jets reporter describing what is happening. Not saying he isn't right, but it sure will be enjoyable to see how that relationship works now.
 

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Going to be fun to watch the Jets media turn on Ryan now that he is the Bills coach
 
Edit: inserted "media"
 
Already started, clearly. Cimini was the biggest Ryan butt-boy there was, not so much now apparently....
 

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Already started, clearly. Cimini was the biggest Ryan butt-boy there was, not so much now apparently....
 
Right. Maybe another team's coach will finally be unfairly targeted. At least by a few.
 

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No pressure: the last three Jets coaches all went to the playoffs in their first year:
  • 2001: Herm Edwards (10-6; Lost AFC Wild Card 38–24 at Oakland Raiders)
  • 2006: Eric Mangini (10-6; Lost AFC Wild Card 37–16 at New England Patriots)
  • 2009: Rex Ryan (9-7; Lost Conference Championship 30–17 to Indianapolis Colts)
Two coaches before Herm (post Kotite) didn't do too badly:
  • 1997: Bill Parcells (9-7)
  • 2000: Al Groh (9-7)
So five previous coaches all finished above .500 in year 1 as well. If Bowles continue the streak it'll be quite a feet feat
 

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... start reading from right here:
 
http://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/super-bowl-xlix-discussion-thread.83308/page-14
 
then watch the drama unfold. Yes, there are Nation's Tears, but Jets fans tears are made of gold & sweat from the thighs of Adriana Lima. 
 
...and yes, reality is still hard to grasp for some fans:
 
http://forums.theganggreen.com/members/ibleedgreen17.8757/
 
Celtics fan?
 
Better name than Mangolden Showers at least
 
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The New York Jets may be interested in quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick if he becomes available this offseason according to Rich Cimini of ESPN New York.

The Jets clearly need to find a starting QB as Geno Smith may be the shakiest starter in the league. Their most logical move would be to draft either Oregon QB Marcus Mariota of Florida State's Jameis Winston should either prospect drop to the Jets' pick at No.6 but that seems unlikely at this juncture. Fitzpatrick seems to be a viable alternative as he played for newly-hired Jets offensive coordinator Chan Gailey when both were in Buffalo and is familiar with the Gailey offense. That said, Fitzpatrick is still the most-proven quarterback on the Houston Texan's roster, so they might be hesitant to let him go.

Should he land with the Jets, Fitzpatrick would be the favorite to start in a competition with Smith.


http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/47838/Jets-could-be-interested-in-QB-Ryan-Fitzpatrick/Default.aspx#.VNkfvZtmPZE.twitter
 

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The Jets clearly need to find a starting QB as Geno Smith may be the shakiest starter in the league. Their most logical move would be to draft either Oregon QB Marcus Mariota of Florida State's Jameis Winston should either prospect drop to the Jets' pick at No.6 but that seems unlikely at this juncture. 
 
Most mocks I've seen lately has Mariota falling to #6 to the Jets.
 
Hopefully the FC folks would comment on this, but I always thought a west coast offense concepts that Mornhinweg brings is a bad system match up for a spread offense QB like Mariota. 
 
This is on top of the sheer lack of talent at the skill positions for the Jets, unless Percy Harvin miraculously behaves/stays healthy for an entire year and has a monster season. That's why I think they do splurge yet again and make a strong push for 1) Revis (obviously) and 2) Demaryius Thomas. 
 
Now they can sign both, but with a weak to disastrous drafts the past few years (minus DL) and the number of holes in the roster, Revis & Thomas will wipe out the cap space and have a shaky Geno Smith or a rookie Mariota leading the offense. 
 
That's not a bad situation either way for the Pats. 
 

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Most mocks I've seen lately has Mariota falling to #6 to the Jets.
 
Hopefully the FC folks would comment on this, but I always thought a west coast offense concepts that Mornhinweg brings is a bad system match up for a spread offense QB like Mariota. 
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I thought West coast offense and spread offense both involve a large number of short passes, so it's not the biggest of transitions, is it?  Please enlighten me, though, because I'm not that familiar with the rigorous meanings of the terms.
 

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Mornhinweg isn't OC there any more, Gailey is -- one of the reasons Fitz is being mentioned is because he had his best (as in mediocre) year with Gailey in Buffalo.
 
In any case, I have a hard time believing Mariota will fall to 6. I could see the 5 teams before the Jets not wanting him, but one of the teams desperate for a QB will like him enough to trade up for him. Of course, that could be the Jets...wouldn't be at all surprised if a team like the Raiders trades down from 4 to 6 knowing they can still get their guy, plus an extra pick.
 

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This is on top of the sheer lack of talent at the skill positions for the Jets, unless Percy Harvin miraculously behaves/stays healthy for an entire year and has a monster season. That's why I think they do splurge yet again and make a strong push for 1) Revis (obviously) and 2) Demaryius Thomas. 
I don't hate the Jets' skill position talent these days, honestly. Decker's a little overpaid, but he's a good receiver - he put up numbers comparable to LaFell last year despite playing with Jets' QBs and suffering with nagging injuries much of the year. Harvin is a mega-talent, obviously, though whether they can keep him in line and get anything out of him is another matter. Ivory is a good, underrated back; I'd probably take him over any of the Patriots RBs, for instance. Kerley's a pretty good slot guy, and Amaro was easily the best rookie tight end last year. They could use a little more depth, but I don't see the skill positions as pressing as QB (obviously), OL, the secondary, or even LB with Harris and Pace getting up there in age.
 
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Revis won't be a jet next year, hell likely be a patriot. And Harvin won't be, either, IMO. Do think jets will make a big play for Thomas. And I hope they get him bc he will be wasted there and not be on the broncos or ravens. Fine with me.
 

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I don't hate the Jets' skill position talent these days, honestly. Decker's a little overpaid, but he's a good receiver - he put up numbers comparable to LaFell last year despite playing with Jets' QBs and suffering with nagging injuries much of the year. Harvin is a mega-talent, obviously, though whether they can keep him in line and get anything out of him is another matter. Ivory is a good, underrated back; I'd probably take him over any of the Patriots RBs, for instance. Kerley's a pretty good slot guy, and Amaro was easily the best rookie tight end last year. They could use a little more depth, but I don't see the skill positions as pressing as QB (obviously), OL, the secondary, or even LB with Harris and Pace getting up there in age.
 
Aside from Harvin--whom I think will be released--this is where I stand. Add in the possibility for a Gailey-CJ Spiller reunion and the excuses for whatever loser the Jets play at QB will not include skill position talent.
 

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Hopefully the FC folks would comment on this, but I always thought a west coast offense concepts that Mornhinweg brings is a bad system match up for a spread offense QB like Mariota. 
 
It's on the list of things we'll be looking at this offseason.
 

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... start reading from right here:
 
http://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/super-bowl-xlix-discussion-thread.83308/page-14
 
then watch the drama unfold. Yes, there are Nation's Tears, but Jets fans tears are made of gold & sweat from the thighs of Adriana Lima. 
 
...and yes, reality is still hard to grasp for some fans:
 
Thank you for sharing this.  It was like reading the diary of an embittered eighth grader (who can't spell). 
 

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Revis won't be a jet next year, hell likely be a patriot. And Harvin won't be, either, IMO. Do think jets will make a big play for Thomas. And I hope they get him bc he will be wasted there and not be on the broncos or ravens. Fine with me.
 
I'm still completely baffled at this trade for the Jets. They gave up a sixth round pick, 8 million towards the cap for...a bad contract in the future and a guy with attitude issues? They were 1-6 at the time, they weren't going anywhere. Was it to see if the problem was Geno or the lack of talent around him? That's the only thing I can wrap my head around, but even then it seems like an unnecessary price. The trade may well have cost Seattle another Superbowl as well, though it's impossible for any of us to know the impact within the organization. This has to go down as one of the more bizarre trades in sports in recent memory.
 

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I'm still completely baffled at this trade for the Jets. They gave up a sixth round pick, 8 million towards the cap for...a bad contract in the future and a guy with attitude issues? They were 1-6 at the time, they weren't going anywhere. Was it to see if the problem was Geno or the lack of talent around him? That's the only thing I can wrap my head around, but even then it seems like an unnecessary price. The trade may well have cost Seattle another Superbowl as well, though it's impossible for any of us to know the impact within the organization. This has to go down as one of the more bizarre trades in sports in recent memory.
 
By all reports, Harvin was such a clubhouse cancer that he had to go.  Even Russell Wilson couldn't get along with him.  I don't think they even make the playoffs with him on the team the entire season.
 

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It's so fucking Jets that even their pointless desperate trades end up helping their chief rival win the fucking Super Bowl.
 

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By all reports, Harvin was such a clubhouse cancer that he had to go.  Even Russell Wilson couldn't get along with him.  I don't think they even make the playoffs with him on the team the entire season.
 
Yeah, I can see that, similar to Glenn in 2001 with New England. Like I said, there's no way I can know exactly how bad it had gotten. I know he and Baldwin went at it, but trying to figure out which of those two is the sane one can't have been an easy task.
 
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