RedOctober3829 said:Jets bringing in Frank Reich, Tom Cable, Todd Bowles, and Gary Kubiak for head coaching interviews.
At least two of those guys also are leading candidates to start at QB for the Jets, too!
RedOctober3829 said:Jets bringing in Frank Reich, Tom Cable, Todd Bowles, and Gary Kubiak for head coaching interviews.
He already turned them down the last time they came sniffing around before they hired Idzik. I have to think he has a handshake deal to take over for Ozzie in Baltimore or at least that he's too smart to work for an owner as bad as Woody.Shelterdog said:
I'd die a happy man if DeCosta was given absolute control and then hired back his old Ravens buddy Rex.
But seriously, leaking that you're trying to hire a guy who probably isn't going to join you is just fucking stupid.
Seems like the most likely landing spot for him at this point. Any head coach who hires Rex is going to have a bunch of media shit-stirrers and/or idiot players calling for Rex to replace them the second their team accrues 2 losses.E5 Yaz said:So, Rex is interviewing with ESPN. Perfect replacement for Ditka
thehitcat said:He already turned them down the last time they came sniffing around before they hired Idzik. I have to think he has a handshake deal to take over for Ozzie in Baltimore or at least that he's too smart to work for an owner as bad as Woody.
but now twice a year!!tims4wins said:Beat me to it. A Kubiak hire would basically guarantee a slew of 6 to 9 win seasons and present no credible threat. Maybe he would even bring back the lettermen jackets.
cromulence said:Could someone fix the thread title? "Temperin" is driving me crazy, unless there's a joke I'm missing.
cromulence said:
Damn. I truly don't get it. Does Rex Ryan enjoy tempering chocolate or glass when he's not massaging feet?
Yup. Gotta think the Jets probably tampered as well. No way DM opts out unless he knows the Jets job is his.RedOctober3829 said:Gotta think Doug Marrone is the clear choice
You realize what franchise we're discussing here right?E5 Yaz said:How can Marrone know he has the Jets job, when they don't have a GM? Wouldn't a new GM want specifically to avoid what Idzik just went through and be the guy to hire his own coach?
I'm sure that's what a new GM wants, but Woody is as Woody does.E5 Yaz said:How can Marrone know he has the Jets job, when they don't have a GM? Wouldn't a new GM want specifically to avoid what Idzik just went through and be the guy to hire his own coach?
What Darnell's son said.Saints Rest said:Is there any chance the Jets might hand the keys to one man? And that man be Doug Marrone?
I would think Marrone, McDaniels, or any coach with options would want to choose the best-run organization, with a slight eye on current talent and only a tiny weighting on division strength. Divisions and talent can change but ownership sets the tone.E5 Yaz said:How can Marrone know he has the Jets job, when they don't have a GM? Wouldn't a new GM want specifically to avoid what Idzik just went through and be the guy to hire his own coach?
Or he knows they have no chance with EJ Manuel next season and no chance to draft a QB in round one as that pick is headed to Cleveland. His stock is high right now and if he stays in Buffalo and they tank badly without a QB he is fired and becomes a retread coach. Now he pockets 4 million dollars for nothing and is a hot candidate. It's a no Brainerd for him.crystalline said:I would think Marrone, McDaniels, or any coach with options would want to choose the best-run organization, with a slight eye on current talent and only a tiny weighting on division strength. Divisions and talent can change but ownership sets the tone.
If Marrone takes the Jets job, either he's not very career savvy or the Pegulas in Buffalo must be a disaster.
I don't understand why his stock is so high. What was the clincher, losing a must win game in week 16 against the Raiders? This is why I figure there had to be tampering -- there's no way he sat back and thought "yep, 9-7, my work here is done, time to cash in on the open market".jsinger121 said:Or he knows they have no chance with EJ Manuel next season and no chance to draft a QB in round one as that pick is headed to Cleveland. His stock is high right now and if he stays in Buffalo and they tank badly without a QB he is fired and becomes a retread coach. Now he pockets 4 million dollars for nothing and is a hot candidate. It's a no Brainerd for him.
Personally I think he is a lousy coach but he sees himself turning around the Bills from 6-10 to 9-7 with Kyle Orton as his QB. Other teams probably have interest in him but if I'm running a team I wouldn't give him an interview.moondog80 said:I don't understand why his stock is so high. What was the clincher, losing a must win game in week 16 against the Raiders? This is why I figure there had to be tampering -- there's no way he sat back and thought "yep, 9-7, my work here is done, time to cash in on the open market".
Another factor was Marrone's relationship with the local media. He was said to be upset with what he saw as constant criticism and a general lack of support.
jsinger121 said:Personally I think he is a lousy coach but he sees himself turning around the Bills from 6-10 to 9-7 with Kyle Orton as his QB. Other teams probably have interest in him but if I'm running a team I wouldn't give him an interview.
It's not mission impossible, taming these guys. Pop in a tape of Mara and Coughlin pressers early this week. They provided meaty answers to substantive questions. When reporters trolled, they took the high road, turning the drive byes into substantive questions, then answering them. The tools in the gallery were embarrassed into good behavior. The aura was, we know we are bad; we know what needs to be done; and we are setting about doing it.ifmanis5 said:Well, if this is true, what the hell does he think the NYC Press is going to be like?
http://bills.buffalonews.com/2014/12/31/marrone-left-job-bills/
The Jets seemingly went through smart channels to help Woody Johnson chart a new course for the franchise before Doug Marrone entered the equation on New Year’s Eve.
Six hours before the gavel dropped on 2014, news trickled out that Marrone, a coach with an unimpressive NFL resume, unexpectedly opted out of the final two years of his Bills contract. The Jets were quickly identified as a new potential landing spot.
Johnson & Co. deserved praise for hiring NFL lifers Charley Casserly and Ron Wolf during the team’s GM and head coaching searches, but there’s an unmistakably sleazy feel about the whole operation now that raises many fair questions about who’s pulling the strings.
Coincidence or coordination guided events on Wednesday.
Casserly, Wolf, Johnson and team president Neil Glat conducted an interview with running backs coach Anthony Lynn at the team facility in the afternoon in what most believed was a necessary Rooney Rule compliance look-see. A couple hours after the interview wrapped up, ESPN reported the divorce between the Bills and Marrone at 6:08 pm.
Nine minutes after the initial report – and three minutes after the Bills announced the breakup with Marrone on its verified Twitter page at 6:14 pm – ESPN reported that the Jets became the “favorites” to land Marrone.
The Jets obviously hadn’t reached out to Marrone or his agent, Jimmy Sexton, in the first 180 seconds of the official release. Woody Johnson told the Daily News that he hadn’t even become aware that Marrone was a free agent until later.
Sexton, who also represents Rex Ryan and a litany of other coaches, is too seasoned and savvy to let any client make such a seismic decision to quit his job (even though he received a guaranteed $4 million with no offset language) unless he had a strong sense that there was another one lined up.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/mehta-consultants-pushing-doug-marrone-jets-article-1.2062892The sequence of events on Sunday makes it difficult to believe that the Jets didn’t have prior discussions with the Marrone camp. The feeling in league circles is that Casserly has been infatuated with Marrone for years. He’s calling the shots.
Although Johnson will have the ultimate say on the next GM and head coach, there’s a strong sentiment now that Casserly will make it clear to Johnson that Marrone should be the next head coach. The fluid dynamics at play raise the possibility that the Jets could hire Marrone before a GM even though the plan entering this process was to first secure the front office executive.
There was friction between Marrone and the Bills front office, so it’s a virtual certainty that he’d be involved in picking the new GM.
Eagles director of pro personnel Rick Mueller, who worked with Marrone in New Orleans from 2006-08, seems to be an ideal match. Texans scouting director Mike Maccagnan, who Casserly brought into the league more than a decade, is also scheduled to interview.
The Jets braintrust is scheduled to fly to Seattle on Thursday night to interview Seahawks defensive coach Dan Quinn, assistant Tom Cable and front office executive Trent Kirchner over the weekend, but many now believe the path has been paved for Marrone.
“They’ll be doing a search again in two years,” one front office executive said. “I don’t think Marrone’s going to win there. He’s never won anywhere he’s been a head coach.”
Johnson has put his trust in Casserly and Wolf, but perhaps it was naïve to think that this would truly be an organic search process. Inevitably, consultants allow personal preferences to carry the day.
Marrone turned a hapless Syracuse program into a mediocre one (25-25 in four years) before taking the Bills gig in 2013. Buffalo went 6-10 in each of the previous two seasons before going 6-10 and 9-7 in Marrone’s two seasons. Bills fans weren’t exactly doing backflips with those results.
A crushing Week 16 loss to the Raiders made it 15 consecutive years without a playoff berth for the franchise.
Marrone was hardly an offensive wizard in Buffalo. The Bills were 19th and 26th in total offense in his two seasons. They finished with a franchise-low rushing yards (in a 16-game season) and were 26th in yards per carry (3.7 yards per carry) in 2014.
Marrone has shown no ability to cultivate a quarterback, either. First-round pick EJ Manuel has been a bust. The Bills finished with a winning record on the strength of their defense. Defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz is reportedly under contract through 2016.
Although it was time for the Jets to part ways with Ryan, there was little doubt that the coach inspired his players. Through the Jets 4-12 season, Ryan’s players didn’t quit on him. Now, the Jets are set to interview a coach who quit on his players after two seasons.
moondog80 said:I don't understand why his stock is so high. What was the clincher, losing a must win game in week 16 against the Raiders? This is why I figure there had to be tampering -- there's no way he sat back and thought "yep, 9-7, my work here is done, time to cash in on the open market".
dcmissle said:It's not mission impossible, taming these guys. Pop in a tape of Mara and Coughlin pressers early this week. They provided meaty answers to substantive questions. When reporters trolled, they took the high road, turning the drive byes into substantive questions, then answering them. The tools in the gallery were embarrassed into good behavior. The aura was, we know we are bad; we know what needs to be done; and we are setting about doing it.
It helps when Mara shows up in a business suit instead of a cap. It helps when Coughlin shoots straight, and is his passionate and sometimes funny self.
Nobody enjoys Coughlin face more than I do, but both guys were impressive and likable.
Maybe it was all due to Payton, Brees or their other personnel, but he was the offensive coordinator for the Saints from 2006-08 and they finished 8th, 12th and 4th in offensive DVOA.Tony C said:
Personally I'd love it if he's the hire. He's easy to dislike, has no record of being a winner or being a good offensive coach, and will possibly be hired before a GM which is a recipe for Buffalo style discord -- bring it on, baby!
If this is true and can be substantiated we're probably talking about something as severe as the Jets first round pick, high as it is, going to the Bills. Add in a low round pick to the Pats for Revis and this could be the Jetsiest offseason to Jets them all. Maybe Marone signs elsewhere just to add to the level of Jets.RedOctober3829 said:
More like they give Buffalo a pick and still fire Marrone in 2 years when they still suckEd Hillel said:If this is true and can be substantiated we're probably talking about something as severe as the Jets first round pick, high as it is, going to the Bills. Add in a low round pick to the Pats for Revis and this could be the Jetsiest offseason to Jets them all. Maybe Marone signs elsewhere just to add to the level of Jets.
Ed Hillel said:If this is true and can be substantiated we're probably talking about something as severe as the Jets first round pick, high as it is, going to the Bills. Add in a low round pick to the Pats for Revis and this could be the Jetsiest offseason to Jets them all. Maybe Marone signs elsewhere just to add to the level of Jets.
I mean I think a class organization like the Jets would never allude to an agent that it would pay a coach still under contract x amount of dollars. Curious as to why the name of the other Sexton client was never leaked...hmmPBDWake said:
Let's not forget that the night before Rex was canned, there were reports that they reached out to Rex's agent about their interest in another one of his clients, which Marrone happens to be. At the time we all laughed because it was so Jetsy to reach out to a coach's agent without first firing that coach, but now that it has correlation to tampering? Hilarious.
The name of the sexton client was released-it's MoraTyrone Biggums said:I mean I think a class organization like the Jets would never allude to an agent that it would pay a coach still under contract x amount of dollars. Curious as to why the name of the other Sexton client was never leaked...hmm
The question is can anyone prove the Jets tampered? They've been on a roll the last week.
Likely response by the NFL to the Bills' ownership:Tyrone Biggums said:I mean I think a class organization like the Jets would never allude to an agent that it would pay a coach still under contract x amount of dollars. Curious as to why the name of the other Sexton client was never leaked...hmm
The question is can anyone prove the Jets tampered? They've been on a roll the last week.
Agree this situation is worse in substance. My main point re Haynesworth is the League's willingness to overlook smoking gun evidence of tampering. In that respect, the situation with Big Al was more blatant.Papelbon's Poutine said:
Not that I don't agree with your overall point - that nothing will come of it - but is speaking to a FA before the market opens really analogous to talking an under contract head coach into opting out? It seems like the former probably happens every year with a ton of players. The latter I don't know even has precedent to look back on. I don't necessarily buy into the idea that Woody was whispering in his ear, but I'm also not sure this is an apt comparison.
No QB, no viable FA option, and a bumbling owner who not only should have shut up about Revis but also about Marron when he resigned.soxhop411 said:Jason McIntyre @jasonrmcintyre 16m16 minutes ago
What GM is going to want the Jets job if Marrone is hired? Given his highly public (failed) power play in Buffalo, it's suicide to take it
I'm not convinced they'll get Marrone. There's so many other qualified candidates out there.SeoulSoxFan said:No QB, no viable FA option, and a bumbling owner who not only should have shut up about Revis but also about Marron when he resigned.
As Curran mentioned on radio, Woody would be the "dumbest guy in the mini van."
Hey now. Sanchez is a free agent.SeoulSoxFan said:No QB, no viable FA option, and a bumbling owner who not only should have shut up about Revis but also about Marron when he resigned.
As Curran mentioned on radio, Woody would be the "dumbest guy in the mini van."
So what about Doug makes him an attractive hire? I am asking honestly.soxhop411 said:CBS: All signs point to Doug Marrone as next Jets coach.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24934962/all-signs-pointing-to-doug-marrone-as-next-jets-coach?utm_content=buffer3f025&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer