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 Nov 5 2009, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE The Boston Red Sox have acquired outfielder Jeremy Hermida from the Florida Marlins for Triple-A left-hander Hunter Jones and a left-hander from Boston's Double-A affiliate, according to a major-league source. Hermida hit .258 with 13 home runs with 47 RBIs for the Marlins last season. Florida drafted Hermida as the 11th pick in the first round of the 2002 draft. Didn't take long to get the Hot Stove going. This can't be Bay insurance. Is he a piece to use in another deal in the offseason or does he figure to replace Rocco as the 4th OF? Link This post has been edited by RedOctober3829: Nov 5 2009, 05:37 PM -------------------- "People say, 'What will you do if you don't play football?' Why would I even think of doing anything else? What would I do instead of run out in front of 80,000 people and command 52 guys and be around guys I consider brothers and be one of the real gladiators? Why would I ever want to do anything else? It's so hard to think of anything that would match what I do: Fly to the moon? Jump out of planes? Bungee-jump off cliffs? None of that s--- matters to me. I want to play this game I love, be with my wife and son, and enjoy life."
--Tom Brady "I think Pap feels he was misunderstood," Epstein said. "He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with." --Theo Epstein |
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Nov 5 2009, 05:36 PM
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  Posts: 732 From: Bloomington, Ind. |
Jose Alvarez and Hunter Jones going to Florida.
edit: Career splits .351/.441 v RHP .321/.376 v LHP -8.0 UZR/150 in 3400 innings in RF. This post has been edited by TheGoldenGreek33: Nov 5 2009, 05:45 PM -------------------- "I am much more confident that Masterson will have a solid major league career than Buchholz." - TRic
"Somewhere in the vast Internet there is a message board thread where two assclowns are complaining endlessly that the Tooth Fairy is raping the Easter Bunny with Mrs. Santa's dildo, and they are in better touch with reality than you and SD." - EV "And also, I'm heaps romantic. I'm drinking fucking champagne on christmas eve AND I let my wife play MW2 while I went on SoSH. So fuck youse." - SydneySox |
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Nov 5 2009, 05:38 PM
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The AA lefty is Doubrant? Any other candidates.
I must say I'm enjoing the quick p ace of deals all over MLB. Could be a crazy interesting winter. |
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Nov 5 2009, 05:41 PM
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 Posts: 542 From: Too far from Fenway. |
I'm inclined to think this is either:
A) Plan E or something for the outfield, available now for insurance and at little cost, or B) To be flipped for someone else. Interesting to say the least. I don't see him as the fourth outfielder. With Baldelli gone, wouldn't Theo prefer a righty for that role? EDIT: Clarity This post has been edited by Laser Show: Nov 5 2009, 05:43 PM -------------------- "In all fairness, I think it has been accurately shown, through linear weight regressions, that bunting is actually the cause of cancer. As the frequency of bunting increases, especially in early innings, the cancer rate of America rises exponentially. Therefore, if we could remove the Mike Scioscia's of the world, cancer would be cured." -- graffam198
"Well, I'll have to think about what to give up, but if it can be with the Phillies winning in the new toilet with a Pedro CG victory and then he opens his Phillies jersey revealing a "Who's Your Daddy" T-shirt and he runs over to the Yankee bench and kicks ARod in the nuts while pointing at his chest....that would be worth something." -- smastroyin |
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Nov 5 2009, 05:42 PM
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What the hell
-------------------- "When Derek Jeter retires, he's going to do so as one of the greatest shortstops (offensively, at least) who has ever played and as one of the best Yankees of all-time. That thought makes my brain want to devour itself." -TheYellowDart5
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Nov 5 2009, 05:44 PM
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Posts: 370 From: Vaughn Eshelman's Candle Emporium |
Olney actually said the Sox were interested in Hermida earlier today. Nice, solid start to the hot stove season.
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Nov 5 2009, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE (Laser Show @ Nov 5 2009, 05:41 PM)  I'm inclined to think this is either: A) Plan E for the outfield, available at little cost, or B) To be flipped for someone else. Interesting to say the least. I don't see him as the fourth outfielder. With Baldelli gone, wouldn't Theo prefer a righty for that role? He doesn't have a gigantic split against righties or lefties (..274/.351 .441/.792 vs righties vs. .237/.321/.376/.697 vs. lefties). Not an ideal 4th OF. -------------------- "People say, 'What will you do if you don't play football?' Why would I even think of doing anything else? What would I do instead of run out in front of 80,000 people and command 52 guys and be around guys I consider brothers and be one of the real gladiators? Why would I ever want to do anything else? It's so hard to think of anything that would match what I do: Fly to the moon? Jump out of planes? Bungee-jump off cliffs? None of that s--- matters to me. I want to play this game I love, be with my wife and son, and enjoy life."
--Tom Brady "I think Pap feels he was misunderstood," Epstein said. "He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with." --Theo Epstein |
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Nov 5 2009, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE (TheGoldenGreek33 @ Nov 5 2009, 05:36 PM) Jose Alvarez and Hunter Jones going to Florida. Where are you getting Alvarez as the 2nd player? He wasn't on the end of year AA roster. Neither was Doubrant now that I look. The only lefties listed are Dobies, Hottovoy and Kris Johnson. Or the answer to - can you name 3 relatively highly drafted lefty college pitchers with very limited futures? Could mean off of the AA off-season roster if they've already established those. More likely just a wrong detail from the source. This looks like a low end value buy. Hermida has been on some possible non-tender lists so Fla wasn't looking to get much from him. Sox can keep him around for a couple months with no cost while it figures out what to do in LF and whether or not he's useful to someone in a flip. |
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Nov 5 2009, 05:45 PM
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Barbara Walters' Illegitimate Son  Posts: 1,484 From: Cambridge via the Upper Peninsula |
This has been confirmed.
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Nov 5 2009, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE (Laser Show @ Nov 5 2009, 05:41 PM) I'm inclined to think this is either: A) Plan E for the outfield, available at little cost, or B) To be flipped for someone else. Interesting to say the least. I don't see him as the fourth outfielder. With Baldelli gone, wouldn't Theo prefer a righty for that role? You would also think they would like someone who can field for the 4th OF role. He has almost the same exact UZR/150 as Bay does 11.2 vs. 11.3 He was once a top prospect and is only going to be 26 but I don't quite understand where he fits in. |
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Nov 5 2009, 05:46 PM
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Remember when Hermida was going to be involved in a Manny trade?
-------------------- As Jose recalls from his ninth grade English class, pretty much all of literature, ergo all of human narrative, falls into one of four archetypes: romance, tragedy, comedy and satire. Jose is hard pressed to come up with anything that crosses into all four categories, save the romantic tragicomic farce of Manny Ramirez. --Jose Melendez
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Nov 5 2009, 05:48 PM
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Nov 5 2009, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE (mjswarner @ Nov 5 2009, 05:46 PM) Remember when Hermida was going to be involved in a Manny trade? That was the first thing I thought of. Quite the fall in a year or so. Here's the source for Alavarez in the deal: http://twitter.com/JCRMarlinsbeat/statuses/5462042023 QUOTE #Marlins trade Jeremy Hermida to Boston for left-handed pitchers Hunter Jones and Jose Alvarez
-------------------- "In all fairness, I think it has been accurately shown, through linear weight regressions, that bunting is actually the cause of cancer. As the frequency of bunting increases, especially in early innings, the cancer rate of America rises exponentially. Therefore, if we could remove the Mike Scioscia's of the world, cancer would be cured." -- graffam198
"Well, I'll have to think about what to give up, but if it can be with the Phillies winning in the new toilet with a Pedro CG victory and then he opens his Phillies jersey revealing a "Who's Your Daddy" T-shirt and he runs over to the Yankee bench and kicks ARod in the nuts while pointing at his chest....that would be worth something." -- smastroyin |
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Nov 5 2009, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE (philly sox fan @ Nov 5 2009, 05:45 PM) Where are you getting Alvarez as the 2nd player? Gammo's twitter: QUOTE Red Sox acquiring OF Jeremy Hermida for minor league pitchers Jose Alvarez and Hunter Jones a great gamble.
This post has been edited by TheGoldenGreek33: Nov 5 2009, 05:50 PM -------------------- "I am much more confident that Masterson will have a solid major league career than Buchholz." - TRic
"Somewhere in the vast Internet there is a message board thread where two assclowns are complaining endlessly that the Tooth Fairy is raping the Easter Bunny with Mrs. Santa's dildo, and they are in better touch with reality than you and SD." - EV "And also, I'm heaps romantic. I'm drinking fucking champagne on christmas eve AND I let my wife play MW2 while I went on SoSH. So fuck youse." - SydneySox |
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Nov 5 2009, 05:50 PM
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I get all of my Marlins news from Clark Spenser and Manny Navarro and so should you.
look at those pictures and you will too Edit: Gammo is going to be long dead when Manny Navarro is our new MLB rumor overlord. |
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Nov 5 2009, 05:56 PM
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 Don't touch his dog food Posts: 2,128 From: MYRTLE BEACH!!!! |
Amalie's twitter as well. Everyone is correct or getting the same bad info.
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Nov 5 2009, 05:56 PM
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 A Gentleman and a Scallop Posts: 16,145 From: Falmouth, MA on Cape Cod |
Well, that's one way to avoid the 40-man squeeze. I expect more of this.
As a 21-year-old, Hermida was the Marlins' #1-ranked prospect by Baseball America heading into 2005. Here are some talking points I culled from BA's writeup: QUOTE A polished hitting approach ... Smooth, quick stroke ... Advanced plate discipline for his age ... Strong work ethic and good makeup ... Comfortable working deep in counts, projects to have power to all fields ... For now, he's mainly content to line singles and doubles to the opposite field ... Scouts have compared him to Eric Chavez, Andy Van Slyke & Paul O'Neill ... Has come a long way defensively, but needs to improve his routes, jumps and the accuracy of his throws from RF ... It would help if he showed as much interest in his defense as his hitting ... Projects as a 25-HR threat, but needs to make adjustments (adding lift to his swing, learning to pull inside pitches, adding bulk to his frame ... Durability is a minor concern after missing time in each of his first 3 pro seasons (ankle in 2002, heel in 2003) Here's what I like: His walk rate, his youth (still just 25), his price (entering his second arb year after making $2.25M last season), and how his LHH stroke will play out at Fenway. Here's what concerns me: His eroding power (From 32 dbl & 18 HR in 484 PA two years ago, to 14 dbls & 13 HR in 491 PA last season). However, he struggled with an oblique strain for most of the year, which might explain his decline, but that in itself is reason for concern -- echoing the worries of 5 years ago. Also, the speed he exhibited in the minors has never materialized on the basepaths at the MLB level. So it seems we're getting a kid with much higher upside than Baldelli, albeit with similar health concerns. -------------------- "Taking a chick ballroom dancing is the fastest way into her pants short of The Weebs Method." -- Maalox
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Nov 5 2009, 05:58 PM
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At 25, he's still a great gamble (at what will likely be ~$2-3 mil) for minor league filler. Worst case you spin him again later in the winter or just non-tender him. Best case you now an OF4/5 with decent skills and upside.
I'm a big fan of jumping all over raw talent (even with poor results-- although he's only a couple seasons removed from a 23 year old with an 870+ OPS) when it comes at essentially no cost to the team. This post has been edited by czar: Nov 5 2009, 06:00 PM |
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Nov 5 2009, 05:59 PM
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Theo got a dime for two nickles. Its hard to excited about a dime, but its better than two nickels.
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Nov 5 2009, 06:00 PM
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I like the trade. Hermida posted the best walk rate of his career in 2009 (ignoring a 2005 cup of coffee) and is entering his age 26 season. He's not the future star he appeared to be after 2007, but a league average offensive campaign from Hermida in 2010 is a very reasonable expectation. In fact, he should be a good deal better than that if the Sox used him in a strict platoon role (Hermida sucks against LHP). There are a number of right-handed OFs on the free-agent market who would make serviceable platoon partners for Hermida.
I see this as a sign the FO realizes the bidding for Holliday and Bay might get out of hand. That's a good thing in my book. I don't see this as a set-up for a bigger deal. As a trading chip, Alvarez was likely more valuable than Hermida. -------------------- "A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz." -- Humphrey Bogart
"In the end, you cannot serve two masters, Theos and Elohim, the god of the Greco-Roman philosophers and the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the violent god of profit proclaimed by empire and the compassionate God of justice proclaimed by the prophets. -- Brian McLaren |
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