The Super Bowl Thread

NortheasternPJ

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Most conventional way would be a TD, 3 FG and a safety. But seems kind of unlikely you would get that particular combo in the 1st half of this game.

Pats going for 2 on every score against a terrible red zone D would be an interesting gamble to put extra pressure on both sides of the ball for ATL.
Thank god Mike Tomlin isn't our OC.
 

pappymojo

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Now here I go again, I see the crystal visions
I keep my visions to myself
Its only me
Who wants to wrap around your dreams and...
Have you any dreams you'ld like to sell?
 

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Now here I go again, I see the crystal visions
I keep my visions to myself
Its only me
Who wants to wrap around your dreams and...
Have you any dreams you'ld like to sell?
Fumbles often happen when it's raining.
Players only...uh...

yeah.
 

pokey_reese

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Saw this tidbit on ESPN:

Wide receiver Julian Edelman is his go-to target, and he has 84 career playoff receptions (which extends his own Patriots record), putting him seventh on the all-time NFL list. Only Jerry Rice (151), Reggie Wayne (93), Wes Welker (88), Hines Ward (88), Michael Irvin (87) and Andre Reed (85) have more.
With a good game Sunday, he could jump from seventh to second on this list, which is pretty cool.
 

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“@brianmacp: Marshall Faulk on the way the Patriots use their running backs: ”It’s awful. You never know when you’re going to play. You have no idea.“”


“@cpriceNFL: Marshall Faulk still believes the Patriots taped the Rams’ walkthrough before Super Bowl 36.”

“@TyDunne: Marshall Faulk on young Tom Brady: ”I knew what everybody else knew about him —- he sucked and he couldn’t beat out Drew Henson.“”

Patriots take up so much real estate in his head
 

Al Zarilla

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“@brianmacp: Marshall Faulk on the way the Patriots use their running backs: ”It’s awful. You never know when you’re going to play. You have no idea.“”


“@cpriceNFL: Marshall Faulk still believes the Patriots taped the Rams’ walkthrough before Super Bowl 36.”

“@TyDunne: Marshall Faulk on young Tom Brady: ”I knew what everybody else knew about him —- he sucked and he couldn’t beat out Drew Henson.“”

Patriots take up so much real estate in his head
When you have a brain the size of a walnut, no room for much else.
 

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15 years later, and he's so salty. It's hard to believe he's so uneducated about SpyGate and the alleged walkthrough taping. But maybe it isn't, old beliefs being hard to change and all that.
 

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15 years later, and he's so salty. It's hard to believe he's so uneducated about SpyGate and the alleged walkthrough taping. But maybe it isn't, old beliefs being hard to change and all that.
Once a Colt, always a Colt. Used to bother me but now I can't get enough of this.
 

allstonite

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Cris the Fall Guy Carter was on Katie Nolan earlier in the week and was talking about the taped walk through as though it were a well known fact and I'm pretty sure he thought that was spygate. She seemed incredulous and shot him down really quick but this is a guy who has covered the league as his profession in the time since he retired and even he had no idea. There's no hope for casual fans and babies like Marshall Faulk.

That said I love love love how much Bill and the Patriots are in the head of people like him and Joey Porter
 

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F'ing Tomase
I'm irrationally upset any time I turn on WEEI and he's filling in for someone or it's his weekend show. Someday when I have the time I want to call in with a legit topic to get through the screenings and then just get on live air and call him out. How he has a job in this business and this town befuddles me.
 

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This is the most disconnected I've felt to any Patriots SB run up. Not sure if it's work schedule, personal life crap, politics, or what, but I keep forgetting the game is 3 days away.
 

JokersWildJIMED

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One "concern" that I have is that the Pats have played poorly each time they have had more than a week to prepare. Two losses and an error prone effort against the Texans.
 

simplyeric

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Well, no matter how hard we might try to check our privilege, the lack of novelty is certainly an issue too, no?
(All those other things matter too, obviously)
 

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Pats going for 2 on every score against a terrible red zone D would be an interesting gamble to put extra pressure on both sides of the ball for ATL.
Yeah, that's not gonna happen. BB is too smart of a coach to do that. Miss 1 or 2 of those conversions, and you end up chasing points the entire game.
 

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Yeah, that's not gonna happen. BB is too smart of a coach to do that. Miss 1 or 2 of those conversions, and you end up chasing points the entire game.
I agree that it isn't going to happen, but not because BB is "too smart." There's certainly a point where a team with a big enough edge in converting vs defending the 2 point try would be mathematically correct to use it as a strategy. And using it as a surprise in a huge game, when the other team doesn't have a chance to prepare, would increase the edge.

The fact that it hasn't been tried is an indication that nobody thinks they have a big enough edge, and/or the variance over the short term isn't worth it. But if, say, BB thought he had an absurd edge in expected points on the 2pt try (like 90 percent conversion for us vs 20 percent for them), and expected a lot of TDs on both sides, I could totally see him playing the percentages and trying it.
 

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I agree that it isn't going to happen, but not because BB is "too smart." There's certainly a point where a team with a big enough edge in converting vs defending the 2 point try would be mathematically correct to use it as a strategy. And using it as a surprise in a huge game, when the other team doesn't have a chance to prepare, would increase the edge.

The fact that it hasn't been tried is an indication that nobody thinks they have a big enough edge, and/or the variance over the short term isn't worth it. But if, say, BB thought he had an absurd edge in expected points on the 2pt try (like 90 percent conversion for us vs 20 percent for them), and expected a lot of TDs on both sides, I could totally see him playing the percentages and trying it.
Yeah, of course he could play the odds. Which is exactly what I think he does all the time anyway.
I mean this...an extra point has a much higher success rate than a 2 point try. Which is why I think that unless the Pats need the 2 point conversion late in the game, he kicks the extra point every time, regardless of how good or bad the Falcons might be defending the 2 pointer.
 

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This is the most disconnected I've felt to any Patriots SB run up. Not sure if it's work schedule, personal life crap, politics, or what, but I keep forgetting the game is 3 days away.
I was like that for much of the season. Changed jobs, moved to another state, had a shit ton of stuff to get in order, so I just sat down to watch the games, basically, without really experiencing the season. It's been a couple of weeks now since I've gotten back into a routine, and I can barely go 20 minutes without the game popping back into my mind. The wait has been excruciating, which is weird considering this is the Super Bowl I'd be less devastated if they were to lose in.
 

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“@brianmacp: Marshall Faulk on the way the Patriots use their running backs: ”It’s awful. You never know when you’re going to play. You have no idea.“”


“@cpriceNFL: Marshall Faulk still believes the Patriots taped the Rams’ walkthrough before Super Bowl 36.”

“@TyDunne: Marshall Faulk on young Tom Brady: ”I knew what everybody else knew about him —- he sucked and he couldn’t beat out Drew Henson.“”

Patriots take up so much real estate in his head
It must be that time of year again...

Tim Brown says Tom Brady would be nothing without the tuck rule
“I tell people all the time, if Tom Brady would just start out every interview saying, ‘I wanna thank the Oakland Raiders,’ I’d be happy and I’d let it go,” wide receiver Tim Brown said in an NFL Network interview. “But until that day happens, I’m not gonna let it go.”
 

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Raiders got their shot the VERY NEXT YEAR and blew it.

Why that never gets mentioned...hmm, I wonder.
 

snowmanny

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Pittsburgh would have blown out the Raiders.

I mean who knows, but why not say that with conviction?
 

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Yeah, of course he could play the odds. Which is exactly what I think he does all the time anyway.
I mean this...an extra point has a much higher success rate than a 2 point try. Which is why I think that unless the Pats need the 2 point conversion late in the game, he kicks the extra point every time, regardless of how good or bad the Falcons might be defending the 2 pointer.
The second bolded part kind of suggests that you don't understand what the first bolded part means. But whatever.
 

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Oh, man. That's amazing, but this is a definite case of "he's an asshole, but he's ours."
he first thing I thought was not "asshole" but rather a large eye roll at how many millions of Patriot haters are going to chalk this up as just another way the Patriots cheat.......I found it pretty funny though.
People that would watch that and say "asshole" or "cheater" are really fucking joyless.
 

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“@brianmacp: Marshall Faulk on the way the Patriots use their running backs: ”It’s awful. You never know when you’re going to play. You have no idea.“”


“@cpriceNFL: Marshall Faulk still believes the Patriots taped the Rams’ walkthrough before Super Bowl 36.”

“@TyDunne: Marshall Faulk on young Tom Brady: ”I knew what everybody else knew about him —- he sucked and he couldn’t beat out Drew Henson.“”

Patriots take up so much real estate in his head
I prank called Marshall Faulk once. That's all I got.
 

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Oh, and there is no worse team of sore losers in NFL history than the 2001 Raiders.

Edit: In addition to everything mentioned above, they lost their last three games of the year which is why that game was even being played in Foxboro. One of those was to the fucking Jets!
 
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It's kind of nice, if fairly inconsequential in the grand scheme, to have Michael Floyd "playing" Julio Jones for the scout team this week. Not that he's even within miles of the guy, talent-wise, but he can give them looks better than a typical practice squad-er would.
 

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I've seen him then go on the NFL network and be fairly complementary to the Patriots. It's a weird existence some of these goofs live. Troll here, give straightforward option/analysis there. I guess you just can't be reasonable and consistent, and hope to get any notice in that business anymore. Put me in the camp of thoroughly enjoying the salty goodness of their tears now.