Zeke to Foxboro: 1 year, up to $6 million

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He's extremely washed as a running back but there's still probably nobody better at picking up blitzes from that position.
 

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Really nothing to complain about here at all. Still great in short yardage and red zone. Solid at blitz pickup, 1 year deal for lots of incentives. Spells Rham. Solid pickup by Bill
 

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He's extremely washed as a running back but there's still probably nobody better at picking up blitzes from that position.
I am not so sure he's washed. He's on the back nine but this isn't Stephen Jackson in 2015. I think he can be a real asset beyond spelling Rham. He's a pro. And we haven't seen him in a true back-up role. I am thinking more like later career Frank Gore; steady, unspectacular but reliable play.
 

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Well worth the one year deal at that money. Helps the depth immensely. Provides some helpful things for the offense. He knows what he's doing.
 

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He's extremely washed as a running back but there's still probably nobody better at picking up blitzes from that position.
Yep. Us resident Cowboys fans will tell you Zeke was Emmitt 2.0 in picking up the blitz and he’s still very good in short yardage and goalline. He no longer has the burst to rip off 50-80 yard plays but for relatively cheap, this is a good deal for the Patriots.
 

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He's extremely washed as a running back but there's still probably nobody better at picking up blitzes from that position.
He's washed as a STARTING RB but should have plenty in the tank as a backup and short yardage guy who can also block and catch passes. Great pickup for only 3 mil base salary, which presumably went down (to 3 mil) b/c the Pats took their time signing him.
 
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My first impression of this signing is LaGarrette Blount 2.0.

Zeke is a bit of a meme because he was cashing huge checks from Jerry and was lapped by Pollard before his time finished, but he still fills a particular role, and should be fine as the situational power back.
 

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It looks like the four years before last year, he had 60 to 90 pass targets a year, but the number dropped way down. I don't really follow the Cowboys, but is that a personnel issue? Was Pollard just more of a third down back, or is Zeke cooked as a receiver and route runner?
 

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It looks like the four years before last year, he had 60 to 90 pass targets a year, but the number dropped way down. I don't really follow the Cowboys, but is that a personnel issue? Was Pollard just more of a third down back, or is Zeke cooked as a receiver and route runner?
Pollard became the primary receiving back. Zeke can still catch the ball I’m sure but he just doesn’t have the explosive big play ability he used to.

But Zeke still does a bunch of things that Belichick would like. He doesn’t fumble, he’s elite at picking up the blitz, he’s good in short yardage, and he plays through a lot of injuries.
 

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3.5 YPC is fine if he's mostly being used in short yardage situations. He'll be running a lot more 3rd and 3s than 1st and 10s.
 

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I was diving a little deeper and it seems as if Zeke is way more cooked as a receiver than I previously thought. He's ranked in the bottom 3 for yards per target among running backs every year since 2020. His hands are still good and he can pass protect, but I think at this point it'd be a big surprise if he amounted to anything more than a complementary short yardage back who's going to flank Mac in shotgun on third down.
 

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I was diving a little deeper and it seems as if Zeke is way more cooked as a receiver than I previously thought. He's ranked in the bottom 3 for yards per target among running backs every year since 2020. His hands are still good and he can pass protect, but I think at this point it'd be a big surprise if he amounted to anything more than a complementary short yardage back who's going to flank Mac in shotgun on third down.
Yes, I was thinking a receiving 3rd-down back, such as Fournette (if he got in shape) was a bigger need than what Zeke provides.
 

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to me i wouild have just went the extra 3-4 mil and got D Cook or wait for cutdown day i dont understand not every team but say the colts texans if i was a bad team i wouild cut down to 35-40 players and then sign all the good undrafted FA's
 

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For second place maybe. I hope the Pats do well, but is there any particular reason to think the Bills are going to fall on their faces in the regular season?
I live in upstate NY so most of my buddies are Bills and Jets fans, and they’re the tv market teams so I watch most of the games for both, somewhat against my will.

I’d like to see the Bills win one Lombardi for all of the suffering they’ve gone through. And Josh is young so it seems kinda dumb to say, but I think there’s a good chance they missed their window to win. The offense wasn’t as good without Daboll. Gabe Davis proved to be the JAG initially assumed. They improved at RB and TE but their receiver group after Diggs is not good. I like Josh but he’s still prone to streaks of really dumb turnovers and hero ball. The offensive line is questionable and could easily end up in the bottom third. Yeah, still the favorite to win the East and rightfully so. But if you gave my even odds I’d take the field of Jets/Dolphins/Pats over the Bills.
 

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I live in upstate NY so most of my buddies are Bills and Jets fans, and they’re the tv market teams so I watch most of the games for both, somewhat against my will.

I’d like to see the Bills win one Lombardi for all of the suffering they’ve gone through. And Josh is young so it seems kinda dumb to say, but I think there’s a good chance they missed their window to win. The offense wasn’t as good without Daboll. Gabe Davis proved to be the JAG initially assumed. They improved at RB and TE but their receiver group after Diggs is not good. I like Josh but he’s still prone to streaks of really dumb turnovers and hero ball. The offensive line is questionable and could easily end up in the bottom third. Yeah, still the favorite to win the East and rightfully so. But if you gave my even odds I’d take the field of Jets/Dolphins/Pats over the Bills.
And Diggs turns 30 in late November.
 

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I live in upstate NY so most of my buddies are Bills and Jets fans, and they’re the tv market teams so I watch most of the games for both, somewhat against my will.

I’d like to see the Bills win one Lombardi for all of the suffering they’ve gone through. And Josh is young so it seems kinda dumb to say, but I think there’s a good chance they missed their window to win. The offense wasn’t as good without Daboll. Gabe Davis proved to be the JAG initially assumed. They improved at RB and TE but their receiver group after Diggs is not good. I like Josh but he’s still prone to streaks of really dumb turnovers and hero ball. The offensive line is questionable and could easily end up in the bottom third. Yeah, still the favorite to win the East and rightfully so. But if you gave my even odds I’d take the field of Jets/Dolphins/Pats over the Bills.
You might be right about them missing their window.

By 13 seconds.
 

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You might be right about them missing their window.

By 13 seconds.
I have a lot of Bills fans friends and most of them say that game against KC hurts as bad as any of their losses outside maybe SB XXV.

You had a feeling that if Buffalo got out of KC with a win and were back hosting CIN in the AFCCG, they were going all the way that year. Maybe that’s not fair to CIN or LAR, but Josh Allen was playing utterly out of his mind at that point. It took a miracle 13 seconds and winning a coin toss to stop him.
 

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to me i wouild have just went the extra 3-4 mil and got D Cook
But what are the chances Cook would choose the Pats over the Jets for the same (or even similar) $? Clearly for this season the Jets are a more desirable option.

We'll never know what BB preferred or what offers Cook had, but a lot of times people see contracts and say "why didn't we do X instead of Y"?

But the truth is, many times it's not Y vs. X. It's Y versus nothing. Players can only pick 1 team.
 

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I live in upstate NY so most of my buddies are Bills and Jets fans, and they’re the tv market teams so I watch most of the games for both, somewhat against my will.

I’d like to see the Bills win one Lombardi for all of the suffering they’ve gone through. And Josh is young so it seems kinda dumb to say, but I think there’s a good chance they missed their window to win. The offense wasn’t as good without Daboll. Gabe Davis proved to be the JAG initially assumed. They improved at RB and TE but their receiver group after Diggs is not good. I like Josh but he’s still prone to streaks of really dumb turnovers and hero ball. The offensive line is questionable and could easily end up in the bottom third. Yeah, still the favorite to win the East and rightfully so. But if you gave my even odds I’d take the field of Jets/Dolphins/Pats over the Bills.
The Bills haven’t missed their window. They’re going to be Super Bowl contenders as long as Allen plays at a high level.

which is (fortunately for New England) only going to be only like four years because they mistakenly believe that big quarterbacks don’t wear down running the balls having apparently never seen what happened to cam Newton and Andre Luck.
 

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My first impression of this signing is LaGarrette Blount 2.0.

Zeke is a bit of a meme because he was cashing huge checks from Jerry and was lapped by Pollard before his time finished, but he still fills a particular role, and should be fine as the situational power back.
LGBT left and became a contributor on a championship team in Philly. I don’t think Zeke is that good.

They wanted James Robinson for this role if he was healthy, but he wasn’t — by all accounts, he looked cooked in the Giants’ first preseason game, and he’s unlikely to make their roster. Good on BB for moving off Robinson quickly, and for getting a guy with some upside to replace him, but I’d be lying if I said I was optimistic. Rham can’t take every carry, and as you say Zeke fits a role, but I’ll be pleasantly surprised if he’s more than a warm body.
 

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The Bills haven’t missed their window. They’re going to be Super Bowl contenders as long as Allen plays at a high level.

which is (fortunately for New England) only going to be only like four years because they mistakenly believe that big quarterbacks don’t wear down running the balls having apparently never seen what happened to cam Newton and Andre Luck.
Well yeah. That’s my point. The Mahomes window is much longer. He’s learned how to take less injury risk after the QB sneak injury spooked him. He’s a better passer, more creative, and better vision than Josh. If Andy isn’t retiring from a heart condition, they could have 6-8 more years as I think they are less reliant on having Tyreek, Kelce, etc. Josh will always be in the mix but I think Luck is a much better comparison. The window is open but peaked and closing.

I feel for the fans. I started texting all of them on the Gabe TD congrats and they all responded 13 seconds was too long. I flash-backed to my entire pre 2004 childhood. They were right.
 

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Well yeah. That’s my point. The Mahomes window is much longer. He’s learned how to take less injury risk after the QB sneak injury spooked him. He’s a better passer, more creative, and better vision than Josh. If Andy isn’t retiring from a heart condition, they could have 6-8 more years as I think they are less reliant on having Tyreek, Kelce, etc. Josh will always be in the mix but I think Luck is a much better comparison. The window is open but peaked and closing.

I feel for the fans. I started texting all of them on the Gabe TD congrats and they all responded 13 seconds was too long. I flash-backed to my entire pre 2004 childhood. They were right.
Mahomes is aaron Rodgers, if Rodgers were a good teammate and had a hof caliber coach. They'll be at the top of the conference for the next decade, no doubt.