WS Game 7!

Who do you want to win?


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Lowrielicious

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HriniakPosterChild said:
So better to just lose more quickly with Perez swinging at junk over his head?
If you have prior knowledge that Perez is going to K then there are a range of options available.
 

JimD

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Lowrielicious said:
If you have prior knowledge that Perez is going to K then there are a range of options available.
 
This is where Yost needed to manage and give Perez a plan.  Maybe I'm giving them too much credit, though - I'm assuming that teams scout their own player's tendencies and would know that Bumgarner and Posey would try to get Perez to swing at pitches high in the zone.
 

gaelgirl

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Finally checking in. WE WON!!!! 
 
1) Y'all are really underestimating the fielding ability of Pablo Sandoval. He's really very good, assuming he's about this weight or lighter. In about 10 pounds, he's not that good.  
2) Bumgarner wasn't exactly sharp, I thought, but it's clear from this story (http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2014/10/29/7130485/madison-bumgarner-world-series-giants) that he basically executed the plan to every hitter (except perhaps Butler, which is terrifying). He was all over the place if you're looking at the plot without context. Looking at those batter-by-batter pitch sequences, it seems he was doing exactly what he wanted to be doing out there. Also notable is how differently they pitched Perez earlier. 
3) It's very, very, very doubtful Gordon would have scored. Crawford had the ball and he's got a great arm and is the best fielder on the team. I suppose there's a chance, but it's an incredibly risky way to possibly end a World Series. I don't think it would have been a replay call. He either would have been out by a mile or safe on a horrible miscue. If it's the former, it's one of the biggest mistakes in World Series history. If it's the latter, it's one of the boldest and most brilliant moves in World Series history. 
4) Whomever asked about all the ex-Yankees. Righetti played with the Giants for three seasons, JT Snow for nine. Hensley Meulens was the AAA batting coach for a season before joining the big club, Roberto Kelley was hired as the manager of the A-level Giants affiliate in Augusta three or four years before his promotion. Not sure how the latter two got into the Giants organization, but could just be that they were looking for a job and the Giants had one. Or could be the other Yankee connections. Lefebvre is friends with Sabean from high school. Balboni played at a rival high school, and they all three played in college together. 
 

LogansDad

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JimD said:
 
This is where Yost needed to manage and give Perez a plan.  Maybe I'm giving them too much credit, though - I'm assuming that teams scout their own player's tendencies and would know that Bumgarner and Posey would try to get Perez to swing at pitches high in the zone.
This is pretty much my exact feeling.  If they get Perez to actually go up there with a plan (say, take the first pitch) then one of three things happen.  He takes a high ball, and it maybe gets into Bumgarner's head that he will actually take a pitch upstairs. He takes a strike and he's behind 0-1 (pretty much just like he ended up anyway, by swinging at the high pitch).  Or he takes a ball and ends up in a much better place then he was.
 
As it was, going up there swinging at a first pitch that's at his eyeballs told Bumgarner everything he needed to know about the at-bat..... and that is on Yost as much as Perez, in my opinion.
 

Al Zarilla

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54thMA said:
I hate to go there, but I just have to; watching that game last night with the Giants up 3-2, two outs nobody on, then the Royals get the gift triple and strand the runner at third to end the WS....................it just absolutely boggles my mind that I saw the 1986 Red Sox up by TWO runs, two outs, nobody on, two strikes on the hitter and then the whole thing imploded, they gave up three runs and lost the game.
 
 
There is still a 1986 survivors support group, meets every Tuesday at 7 pm at the Coco's on Hamilton Ave. Do you want me to save you a seat? 
 

kieckeredinthehead

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JimD said:
 
This is where Yost needed to manage and give Perez a plan.  Maybe I'm giving them too much credit, though - I'm assuming that teams scout their own player's tendencies and would know that Bumgarner and Posey would try to get Perez to swing at pitches high in the zone.
 
Probably should have pulled a Jake Taylor.
 

Harry Hooper

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kieckeredinthehead said:
 
Probably should have pulled a Jake Taylor.
 
 
Yost thought of that but nixed it because Gordon was on 3B instead of 2B.