What do you want Pats to do with #3?

What do you want the Pats to do with #3?

  • Trade multiple picks for #1 and take Williams

    Votes: 20 4.4%
  • Draft Jayden Daniels at #3

    Votes: 94 20.5%
  • Draft Drake Maye at #3

    Votes: 202 44.1%
  • Draft Marvin Harrison Jr. at #3

    Votes: 56 12.2%
  • Draft someone else not mentioned at #3 (please specify)

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Trade down and pick up more picks and take a WR (Nabers, Odunze, etc.)

    Votes: 11 2.4%
  • Trade down and pick up more picks and take an OL (Fashanu, Alt, etc.)

    Votes: 36 7.9%
  • Trade down and pick up more picks and take a QB (McCarthy, Penix, etc.)

    Votes: 36 7.9%

  • Total voters
    458
Apr 7, 2006
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I'm so fucking glad the Pats didn't draft JJ. Maye was the big-swing choice you need to take to have any chance of competing against the Mahomes/Burrow/Allen/Jackson crowd. JJ, I suspect, will do well as a Purdy-style PG for all those weapons in Minnesota. Good luck to him there. LFG, Drake Maye!!!!
 

twibnotes

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I'm so fucking glad the Pats didn't draft JJ. Maye was the big-swing choice you need to take to have any chance of competing against the Mahomes/Burrow/Allen/Jackson crowd. JJ, I suspect, will do well as a Purdy-style PG for all those weapons in Minnesota. Good luck to him there. LFG, Drake Maye!!!!
JJ has far more speed and arm than Purdy
 

rodderick

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Apr 24, 2009
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Definitely. I just see him as a guy who could excel in a Purdy-like distribute-the-ball situation, but NOT in a "big swing, need to make plays" situation he would have been in with the Patriots.
Yeah, I'm in this camp too. JJ could develop into more of a playmaker and I do think he'll be good for the Vikings as a distributor right away, but I don't see much from him as a creator within the structure of the play, from the pocket. I do think he has escapability and some throw on the run skills, but to me he lacks the ability to understand the defense and take the biggest chunk it allows you based on leverage and coverage instead of just mechanically going 1, 2 with your reads. I think Maye has flashed that a lot more.
 

mcpickl

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Jul 23, 2007
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They would have to get him to agree to re-negotiate his contract. Could he be willing to do that? Maybe? But most likely he'd want to get something out of it, like more guarantees in future years, otherwise he has no incentive.

The key here is... you can split bonus money in the existing contract however you want, you can't split the actual guaranteed salary. So the Jets could trade Zach Wilson and pay some of his bonus without him being involved. If his SALARY had been $5M... they would have had to have him re-negotiate in order to pay that.

Teams can't unilaterally change a contract to make the salary into bonus.

As to whether it happens all the time.... kind of? But not really, ususally the player is getting something in terms of guarantees or something else. So sometimes it's guaranteeing an extra year to get a trade to go through, sometimes (like with Diggs) they might get rid of un-guaranteed future years to let a guy hit FA earlier... but in all of those cases the player has to re-work the contract and he has to get something for it.

On the case of Jones... he has $81M guaranteed on his deal, if you want him to re-work the deal to convert some of his 2024-25 salary to roster bonus.... you have to give him something, whether that is adding money this year, or guaranteeing an extra year of Base in 2025-26, he doesn't have much incentive to just do you a solid.
In most cases, they absolutely can. It's highlighted in this link.

Restructure Potential | Over the Cap

As long as you're not adding years/voids on to the deal, and just converting salary money to bonus money, teams can unilaterally do this.

I'm not saying the Giants would in Daniel Jones case, I'm saying they could if they wanted to.