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TB, what do you know about Tim Weah? First I've heard his name, and yet he's with a fairly famous club...
This profile has a bunch of background info.

I don't have a read on how good a prospect he is. It's hard to keep close tabs on U17s - video is hard to come by, there aren't as many obvious club-related tea leaves to read, and who has time for all that anyway?

He does have a Very Famous Footballing Name, but I don't think he's a charity case. The general sense I've gotten from people who follow the U17s closely is that he's a legit, reasonable prospect, but nobody rates him equal to or above Sargent.
 

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If you are sick of watching Graham Zusi play right back, there's good news! Gyasi Zardes is making his first career start at RB for LA in a few minutes.

(The actual good news is that Yedlin is healthy again.)
 

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What the hell?
They're desperate. LA is a total dumpster fire right now, right back has been a particularly problem all year, and Sigi Schmid is throwing crap against the wall to see if he can find a way to not get fired like Onalfo.
 

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From TB's roundup:

Cameron is still out for Stoke. That's not good.
It's a hamstring injury, and 2 weeks ago, was expected to be 2 weeks' recovery. The Panama do-or-die game is 12 days from now (Fri the 6th). Cameron's our second-best player, in my estimation, and arguably still our first-best. If he's 80%+, do you run him out there and see how many minutes you can get before he pulls the hammy again? Brooks is out, so this would be to presumably pair him with Omar.
 

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The roster for an upcoming U18 camp in Spain has been published. The USSF is calling them U18s and they'll be managed by the U18 manager, Omid Namazi, but this group is the age cohort (1999s) that will soon become the U20s working towards the 2019 WC. The USSF will probably change the nomenclature and give them to Tab Ramos later in the fall or over the winter once the 2000s are done with the U17 WC next month.

The U18s will play Belgium and Russia.

GK
Eric Lopez (LA Galaxy II)
Brady Scott (Köln U19 / Köln II)

DF
Julian Araujo (Barca Academy) <---the one in Casa Grande, AZ, not La Masia
Mark McKenzie (Wake Forest)
Matthew Real (Bethlehem Steel)
Aedan Stanley (Saint Louis FC U18)
Angel Uribe (Tijuana U20)
Carson Vom Steeg (Stanford)

MF
Christian Cappis (FC Dallas U18)
Jose Carranza (North Carolina FC)
Jonathan Gonzalez (Monterrey)
Paxton Pomykal (FC Dallas)
Brandon Servania (Wake Forest)
Juan Pablo Torres (Lokeren)
Sam Vines (Colorado Rapids U18)

FW
Shaft Brewer (RB Leipzig U19)
Griffin Dorsey (Indiana)
Emmanuel Perez (NC State)
Nebiyou Perry (AIK)
Nick Taitague (Schalke U19)

I know some of these players better than others (and some not at all), but here are some tidbits:

  • Jonathan Gonzalez is the most accomplished player in the squad. He's been starting for the top team in Mexico this season ahead of some really solid players. I wouldn't have been opposed if Arena called him up to the full team just to start to get him acclimated.
  • At GK, I've heard good things about Scott. Lopez has played a decent number of USL games this season for LA's second team. The U17 starter Justin Garces is also supposed to be good.
  • Araujo is an interesting call up because he's a 2001 in a camp full of 1999. The staff must like him a lot. He just moved from a local club in Santa Barbara to the Grande Sports Academy DA team in Arizona, who recently switched their affiliation from RSL (who set up their own operation in Utah) to Barcelona.
  • Overall it's difficult to imagine the CB situation approaching the level of the last group (EPB, CCV, Glad), but we'll see. Fingers crossed that a few fullbacks come through, but I don't know this group well. Real has been playing LB for Philly's USL team fairly consistently.
  • Pomykal is an interesting attacking prospect who hopefully gets more playing time at FCD soon. Carranza left DCU's academy to sign with an NASL club this season. Servania is a CM who is having a strong freshman year and will probably sign a homegrown deal with FC Dallas sooner rather than later.
  • Taitague seems to be doing well with Schalke and could be one of the better players this cycle. He's bounced between central and wide attacking positions, but lately seems to be a winger.
  • I've heard good things about Perez and I've heard he's definitely one-and-done at NC State.
  • Perry is provisionally cap-tied to Sweden having played in official U17 games. He would need to file a one-time switch in order to play in real games for the US. He has bounced between US and Sweden camps several times now.
 

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Indeed.

In other USMNT news, two Europa games: Miazga is likely starting for Vitesse vs Nice, and Aaron Schoenfeld may start for Maccabi Tel Aviv vs Villarreal, no less.
 

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Cameron is starting for Stoke today. Altidore is expected to start for Toronto later today.

Excellent news on the USMNT injury front.

For the upcoming game, the US is obviously still without Brooks. Morris is out for a while and Acosta is questionable; he hasn't played in Dallas' last few games.

Thinking about what Arena might actually do:

Altidore - Dempsey
Pulisic
Nagbe - Bradley - Bedoya
Johnson - Besler - Cameron - Yedlin
GK​

Now that we have Yedlin back, we can actually use fullbacks to provide width and go to a 4-3-1-2 that allows us to start two forwards and let Pulisic run wild.

Not thrilled about Bedoya, but if Acosta is out I don't see who else Arena would turn to in this formation. On current ability, I'd go with Roldan but Arena won't give him his first real opportunity right now.
 

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Wow - Fabian Johnson was left off.

GOALKEEPERS (3): Brad Guzan (Atlanta United FC; 15/0), Tim Howard (Colorado Rapids; 37/0), Nick Rimando (Real Salt Lake; 0/0)

DEFENDERS (9): DaMarcus Beasley (Houston Dynamo; 35/6), Matt Besler (Sporting Kansas City; 12/1), Geoff Cameron (Stoke City/ENG; 24/2), Omar Gonzalez (Pachuca/MEX; 16/0), Michael Orozco (Club Tijuana/MEX; 6/1), Tim Ream (Fulham/ENG; 6/0), Jorge Villafaña (Santos Laguna/MEX; 4/0), DeAndre Yedlin (Newcastle United/ENG; (8/0), Graham Zusi (Sporting Kansas City; 20/3)

MIDFIELDERS (10): Kellyn Acosta (FC Dallas; 5/0), Juan Agudelo (New England Revolution; 0/0), Paul Arriola (D.C. United; 5/1), Alejandro Bedoya (Philadelphia Union; 9/0), Michael Bradley (Toronto FC/CAN; 38/7), Benny Feilhaber (Sporting Kansas City; 6/0), Dax McCarty (Chicago Fire; 0/0), Darlington Nagbe (Portland Timbers; 9/0), Christian Pulisic (Borussia Dortmund/GER; 11/5), Gyasi Zardes (LA Galaxy; 4/1)

FORWARDS (4): Jozy Altidore (Toronto FC/CAN; 39/16), Clint Dempsey (Seattle Sounders FC; 41/18), Chris Wondolowski (San Jose Earthquakes; 0/0), Bobby Wood (Hamburg/GER; 12/4)
 

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All I can do is shake my head. Beasley is essentially my soccer class, which was utterly doomed by pay to play. There are fundamental flaws in talent evaluation and fostering at the younger age groups, but some of the systems put in place after we aged out should have started to produce a larger pool by now.
 

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We should be so lucky. Even if we don't get fewer points than Honduras (@CRC, vs MEX) the next week and a half and thereby fail entirely, the AFC #5 is almost certainly going to be Australia (if Syria beats them, I'll eat my hat), who as TB has recently observed are no joke.

This is no Mexico-New Zealand (2014) or T&T - Bahrain (2006). Hell, Australia themselves beat Uruguay in penalties, back when they were in the OFC.

I would very much enjoy if Mexico took their meaningless-for-them game seriously, and ended up giving us payment in full for Graham Zusi in Panama. Doubtful, but would be real fun.
 

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Arena has been clear from day one that he was going to go with boring, typical rosters in order to maintain continuity through the end of qualifiers. He doesn't want to run experiments with new players adjusting to the international level and USMNT teammates during these games. This conservative approach may backfire if the fading old guys and mediocrities can't get the job done, but this was always the way it was going to be.

If we qualify and Arena doesn't immediately pivot to refreshing the player pool with a select group of younger players, we might as well ignore the WC and start talking about our approach after we go three-and-out. Our player pool for 2018 is not great, but it is better than this roster. Miazga is better than at least Orozco and Ream. Roldan is better than Bedoya. We should put Rimando out to pasture and replace him with Horvath or Hamid or another younger GK like Je. Gonzalez or Steffen. Morrow isn't a world-beater, but I don't see the point of Old Man Beasley anymore. Danny Williams is deserving of at least a chance. We should start to give young CMs like McKennie and/or Jo. Gonzalez a taste of camp in case they blow up enough over the next nine months to be worthy of a WC spot. Etc.

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Fabian Johnson's omission is eyebrow-raising. He has been forgettable for the US lately and hasn't been particularly great for Gladbach either, but it's not like we are overloaded with good wing and fullback options. I have to wonder if there is some sort of behind the scenes issue here.

I've seen some of the punditry speculate Arena could roll out a 3-5-2. It makes some sense with Yedlin back from injury and wingback may suit Villafaña more than fullback. I also think Arriola's skillset would fit well with the position, potentially pushing Zusi further down the pecking order.

I doubt Feilhaber will start, but I like having a bit of midfield creativity available off the bench. He could be useful in a pinch.

Zardes is a real eye-roller, but he left last night's game with a pulled groin and has withdrawn from camp. No replacement.
 

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There was some faint hope that NYCFC's English winger Jack Harrison, who has lived in the US since age 14, would eventually get US citizenship and play for the USMNT. However, he's just been called up to England's U21 team. If he plays in a UEFA U21 qualifier, he'll be cap-tied to England for good.
 

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I'd have felt better about this a month ago, but Dwyer's play has really fallen off since his move back to Orlando. I'm far from Morris's biggest fan and his recent play with Seattle has been underwhelming, but the options after him are really hairy.
Juan Aguedelo, come on down! I've been a huge Swagedelo defender (he's actually younger than Zardes!) but I haven't seen anything encouraging in his play since the Gold Cup.
 

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In the context of this season, Johnson's omission isn't totally surprising. Arena likely made his decision before Saturday, and Johnson only had one start before then, a poor performance against Dortmund two Saturdays ago. He got another start and played well against Hannover Saturday, but in neither game did he play the full 90. This season he has 2 starts, 2 subs, and two DNP, and missed the first game due to back injury. At his best he's one of our top players but if he's not in form and can't go the full 90 it makes sense not to select him. He'd probably look great on the wing in a 3-5-2 if he were 100%

Edit : Hannover not Hoffenheim
 
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I did not see the match, just the highlights. kicker gave Johnson a grade 5 (which is a schoolgrade in Germany, where 1 is the best and 6 the worst). He made a mistake that led to the 1-1 from Hannovers Martin Harnik. He mistimed his header on the incoming corner, Harnik headed it in and it was 1-1. I know, a sports journal giving out grades is also subjective, but I would not say that he played "well" in that match without mentioning that crucial mistake.

(Johnsons Gladbach played vs. Hannover last saturday. You might just mixed those two up, but Hannover is a huge, important city, while Hoffenheim is a village :) )
 

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It's so nice to finally have a legit EPL starter again beyond just Geoff Cameron.

At least we'll have one position on friday that exceeds what our expectations were a few weeks ago. Not sure there's another one.

Pulisic did look assassin-like on Saturday, going 90 at Augsburg and putting in dangerous cross after dangerous through-ball, even if he didn't score. Had like 5 assists on shots that were saved or wide. He won a header in the box on a set piece, somehow (the guy is, what, 5'8"?), but put it high.

Bobby Wood went 89 in a scoreless draw for Hamburg, I only saw highlights, he seemed good at getting in position for shots or last-passes, but bad (or bad luck) at executing them.

CCV apparently played 90 and played well for Sheffield United at Forest on saturday, had a stoppage-time header that would have tied the game go off the crossbar. He's been getting starter minutes for a playoff-position Championship team, he might be our #3 CB right now (with our #2 injured), I wonder if he could work with Cameron enough this week to be a viable starter over Omar or (deep breath) Besler. Plus the dude is jacked, and I always have an appreciation for Otamendi-style defenders who can't get pushed around in the box.

Tim Ream has started and played 90 for Fulham every match this season, including @QPR on saturday, 3 days after playing 90 at Forest, always at LCB. Passing accuracy appears to be low-80s over the last month, not sure how that rates for CBs. If Cameron comes off 25 minutes in on Friday clutching his hammy, I bet it'll be Ream who replaces him unless CCV is dominating out there

Anyone with fresh notes on the form of Liga MX or MLS players?
 

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I did not see the match, just the highlights. kicker gave Johnson a grade 5 (which is a schoolgrade in Germany, where 1 is the best and 6 the worst). He made a mistake that led to the 1-1 from Hannovers Martin Harnik. He mistimed his header on the incoming corner, Harnik headed it in and it was 1-1. I know, a sports journal giving out grades is also subjective, but I would not say that he played "well" in that match without mentioning that crucial mistake.

(Johnsons Gladbach played vs. Hannover last saturday. You might just mixed those two up, but Hannover is a huge, important city, while Hoffenheim is a village :) )
Thanks for the corrections; I've mixed up Hannover and Hoffenheim before. Not Hamburg though!

If Johnson played poorly in both matches, best not to select him.
 

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I mean, if he's healthy, I might have selected him and just not played him. Him feeling like he's a continuing part of the USMNT's plans is probably important to getting full value out of him; it wasn't long ago that he was one of our best 2-3 players. He's 29, so we may get another full cycle out of him, and it's not like Villafana is lighting it up for us at LFB.
 

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If Cameron comes off 25 minutes in on Friday clutching his hammy, I bet it'll be Ream who replaces him unless CCV is dominating out there
CCV is not in the squad.

I mean, if he's healthy, I might have selected him and just not played him. Him feeling like he's a continuing part of the USMNT's plans is probably important to getting full value out of him; it wasn't long ago that he was one of our best 2-3 players. He's 29, so we may get another full cycle out of him, and it's not like Villafana is lighting it up for us at LFB.
My spidey sense says we won't. FJ has publicly mused about international retirement after the 2018 WC.
 

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Then that seems pretty likely :)

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I'm not sure that it will happen prior to the WC except for maybe Miazga, but we are due for a major changing of the guard at CB soon. Just about everyone in the pool will be too old or too mediocre to be a valuable oldie in 2022.

Cameron: 37
Besler: 35
Ream: 34
Gonzalez: 33 (can you imagine Omar, but with less foot speed?)

A few will hang on after 2018 for a bit in order to maintain continuity, but all will be phased out sooner rather than later. Brooks (29) will be the only holdover.

Miazga will be 27 in 2022 and there's Carter-Vickers (24), Palmer-Brown (25), and Glad (25) coming up behind him. I like this group quite a bit.

We're actually due for a changing of the guard at a lot of positions due to the weakness of our prime age generation and our subsequent reliance on a somewhat older squad.

Back before the 2002 WC, Arena didn't integrate Donovan until late 2001 and DMB until early 2002. Assuming if we qualify, I certainly hope Bruce doesn't sit on his laurels. I don't think there is a Donovan-sized impact player ready to join the team, but there is fresh blood that can help.
 

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If Johnson played poorly in both matches, best not to select him.
When the alternatives are Villafana, whose best play resembles Johnson's worst, and Beasley, who is 937 years old, there is no excuse for not selecting him. Oh, and Zusi, who can't actually play the position.

Aside from America Uber Alles, which is so "IN" these days and fits with Arena's xenophobic ideas about the right way to pick a team.

This is fucking awful, and wrong. Make America's Roster German-American Free!
 

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When the alternatives are Villafana, whose best play resembles Johnson's worst, and Beasley, who is 937 years old, there is no excuse for not selecting him. Oh, and Zusi, who can't actually play the position.

Aside from America Uber Alles, which is so "IN" these days and fits with Arena's xenophobic ideas about the right way to pick a team.

This is fucking awful, and wrong. Make America's Roster German-American Free!
He's also had nagging injuries and hasn't played much. The last time he played 90 minutes was the loss against Costa Rica on Sept. 2. The time before that was a club match in March. If he plays there's a good chance he re-pulls his hammy or tweaks his back again, and we have to sub him out early. If he's healthy and in form he's a no-brainer but he hasn't been either in 8 months
 
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Aside from America Uber Alles, which is so "IN" these days and fits with Arena's xenophobic ideas about the right way to pick a team.

This is fucking awful, and wrong. Make America's Roster German-American Free!
You're the only one who's brought politics into this. I can't be the only one who wished you hadn't.

Politics is incredibly overvalued these days; it is not the only dimension of our experience in life. Not everything has to be good or bad, or happen or not happen, as a result of someone's political opinions, or some politician's act. That's part of the reason some of us are talking about sports, to get away from politics consuming the rest of life.

also, Zusi plays RB, not LB.
 

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He's also had nagging injuries and hasn't played much. The last time he played 90 minutes was the loss against Costa Rica on Sept. 2. The time before that was a club match in March. If he plays there's a good chance he re-pulls his hammy or tweaks his back again, and we have to sub him out early. If he's healthy and in form he's a no-brainer but he hasn't been either in 8 months
Eh, that's why Villafana makes the roster - in case FJ can't go 90.

There are very few players in our talent pool who should be handed a roster spot regardless of recent form or the presence of a nagging (not disqualifying) injury: FJ is one of them. He is one of the five most talented players available for selection.

I don't see a credible argument that Villafana is a better choice, even when he's fully healthy and match fit. The talent gap is too large; the experience gap is even larger. On his best day, Villafana gives the team what FJ brings on his worst day.

And that leaves aside the decision to take a certified fossil who has never really been "good". And the continued selection of Zusi, who is neither good, nor a full back.

You're the only one who's brought politics into this. I can't be the only one who wished you hadn't.
Arena did. Look up his comments on dual nationals.

Look up the goalie's comments on dual nationals. Look up the number of German-Americans who've been silently dismissed from the team as Arena struggles to qualify. Look up the omission of German-American prospects at the expense of MLS rejects.

When Chandler, Jones, and Green were excised, it was positioned as best for the NT. There is no way to make the case that Fabian Johnson isn't one of our best players. And when viewed as part of a trend - and taken together with the comments made by the manager about dual nationals - it is impossible to see this as anything but an attempt by the manager to excise the German-Americans from the club. Is that "political"? Is that some misguided attempt to further de-Klinsmann the team? Is it a manager who's made xenophobic comments carrying out his threats?

Your call. But don't pretend there isn't an issue and that it can't be spoken of. If that's the way you feel, please find the ignore button and protect your snowflakiness without trying to dictate what is and isn't an acceptable topic of conversation. This is about the NT and the shitty choices being made by the manager.

also, Zusi plays RB, not LB.
FJ has played RB for the NT more than once and is more than capable of playing there if needed. Unlike Zusi, who was a shitty winger and now masquerades as an even shittier RB.

You cannot make a credible case that Zusi is a better full back than Fabian Johnson.
 

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I don't think there's much evidence that Arena has it out for German-Americans.



Brooks would be a starter if he were healthy.

Chandler has been dumped by Bradley, Klinsmann, and Arena. Maybe it's him? [Many, including myself, have theorized that Arena's comments about dual nationals were primarily about Chandler.]

What has Julian Green done to merit inclusion in the squad? Why should we be so impressed with his steady descent down the German food chain?

Arena called up Jones in March. He was then unavailable through the Gold Cup with an injury. He is also old and not that good anymore, as anyone familiar with the LA Galaxy's season could tell you. It is plain that he no longer brings enough to the table to be worth the hassle of his heroball style.

Johnson was injured for March and started one WCQ each in June and September. In both cases, Arena heavily rotated the squad for the second game.

Morales is not very good. Williams is an edge case (he's currently injured, but was available for earlier WCQ).

Arena also tried to bring in Kenny Saeif for the Gold Cup, whose connections to the US are weaker than most of the German-American crowd.
 

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Araujo is an interesting call up because he's a 2001 in a camp full of 1999. The staff must like him a lot. He just moved from a local club in Santa Barbara to the Grande Sports Academy DA team in Arizona, who recently switched their affiliation from RSL (who set up their own operation in Utah) to Barcelona.
Another 2001 has been called into camp, apparently:


De la Fuente seems to score a lot for Barca youth teams, but I have yet to get a sense of how legit a prospect he is. He wasn't among the small group of 2001s called up by John Hackworth over the course of the U17 cycle, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.
 

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Tomorrow morning, the U17s open their World Cup campaign against the hosts, India. I think it's going to be on FS2 (damn you Comcast) at 10:30am.
 

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U17 World Cup, USA leads hosts India 1-0 at halftime. Josh Sargent drew and scored a penalty after his shirt was pulled in the box after a good move. India is only attacking with 4 players anywhere near the box so it's been pretty dull.
 
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Second half U17 USA v India
'48 Andrew Carleton with a nice shot after a run through the D, but better save by India GK
'51 2-0 Chris Durkin with a nice goal off a corner kick that bounced around in the box
'55 Longball gets through US D, India almost chipped the keeper but the shot was too strong
'83 Wild progression, US loses possession near their own box, but Durkin heads a shot away, then India hits the crossbar after a corner kick
84' 3-0 US counters the corner, Carleton with a nice shot around the keeper

Tidy 3-0 win for US. A couple lapses in concentration on defense, which should be expected from high schoolers, but they covered for each other and right from the get-go they seemed to enjoy playing for each other.

Next up: our archnemesis Ghana. Ghana beat Colombia 1-0.

Group A:
US 3 pts +3
Ghana 3 pts +1
Colombia 0 pts -1
India 0 pts -3
 
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So what are predictions for tonight? I'm going with draw.
It's basically win or go home. I think the crowd carries us to a tense one-goal win. If you can't defend your home points in the Hex, you're screwed. We've already dropped 3 to both Mexico and CRC, we're out of margin - and also out of excuses.

Trekfan may need to go and hide for a bit, though, if the result is anything but... :)
 

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3-1 win tonight. And early "lucky" goal for the US, 1-0 into the half. 2-0 lead shortly after restart, then Panama pulling one back, this thread getting nervous, before Pulisic does Pulisic stuff and buries the dagger.
 

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Wow - Fabian Johnson was left off.

GOALKEEPERS (3): Brad Guzan (Atlanta United FC; 15/0), Tim Howard (Colorado Rapids; 37/0), Nick Rimando (Real Salt Lake; 0/0)

DEFENDERS (9): DaMarcus Beasley (Houston Dynamo; 35/6), Matt Besler (Sporting Kansas City; 12/1), Geoff Cameron (Stoke City/ENG; 24/2), Omar Gonzalez (Pachuca/MEX; 16/0), Michael Orozco (Club Tijuana/MEX; 6/1), Tim Ream (Fulham/ENG; 6/0), Jorge Villafaña (Santos Laguna/MEX; 4/0), DeAndre Yedlin (Newcastle United/ENG; (8/0), Graham Zusi (Sporting Kansas City; 20/3)

MIDFIELDERS (10): Kellyn Acosta (FC Dallas; 5/0), Juan Agudelo (New England Revolution; 0/0), Paul Arriola (D.C. United; 5/1), Alejandro Bedoya (Philadelphia Union; 9/0), Michael Bradley (Toronto FC/CAN; 38/7), Benny Feilhaber (Sporting Kansas City; 6/0), Dax McCarty (Chicago Fire; 0/0), Darlington Nagbe (Portland Timbers; 9/0), Christian Pulisic (Borussia Dortmund/GER; 11/5), Gyasi Zardes (LA Galaxy; 4/1)

FORWARDS (4): Jozy Altidore (Toronto FC/CAN; 39/16), Clint Dempsey (Seattle Sounders FC; 41/18), Chris Wondolowski (San Jose Earthquakes; 0/0), Bobby Wood (Hamburg/GER; 12/4)
What do the bracketed numbers mean?
 

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USSF is into annoying lineup announcements that don't show, you know, the formation.

ESPN says it will be like this:




Where's Cameron?

I'll be nervous enough, now I have to deal with Omar Gonzalez on the back line.
 

DennyDoyle'sBoil

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Sep 9, 2008
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Early arriving Outlaws warming up. Smattering of Panama fans but I think the crowd will be a good one.

 

cromulence

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Aug 25, 2009
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When I was trying to figure out the lineup a few days ago, the question was whether it would be Besler or Gonzalez next to Cameron. This was....unexpected.
 

SoxFanInCali

has the rich, deep voice of a god
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California. Duh.
On a yellow and would be suspended against T&T if they get another one tonight:

Starters: Arriola, Besler, Bradley, Yedlin
Subs: Acosta, Beasley, Bedoya, Cameron, Dempsey
 

Kliq

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I had more faith in E-Rod coming out of the bullpen this afternoon than I do in Omar Gonzalez's ability to play CB.