UPDATED DRAFT POLL--Who do you want

What do you WANT the Pats to do with the #3 pick


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DJnVa

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As always, we can leave the discussion in the other thread, just looking for a temp check. Might run this again later on and see how much movement there is.

When I ran this in mid-November it was a choice between Williams, Maye, and MHJ, which MHJ won with about 40%. I changed the answers a little bit.
 

Cellar-Door

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I went with any QB, but it might not be true, I haven't been able to see the full film breakdowns and none of the top QB guys have their full workups on those guys out yet. I would probably still be fine with any of the 3, but I might shift to trade up for Caleb.... the way the ball explodes off his hand and the ability to make something out of nothing is tantilizing even if he sometimes Russel Wilson's it.
 

AB in DC

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Trade up for a QB. Daniels is good but I'm not convinced he's a top 5 pick. Guessing that Chicago won't need a ton of draft capital just to drop from 1 to 3 and still get MHJ.
 

DJnVa

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Trade up for a QB. Daniels is good but I'm not convinced he's a top 5 pick. Guessing that Chicago won't need a ton of draft capital just to drop from 1 to 3 and still get MHJ.
In a vacuum, no. But someone may want Williams so bad that they get a haul to drop further down, even if it costs them MHJ.
 

ShaneTrot

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Hopefully, they do not draft this high for a long time. This is such a huge pick. Imagine being a Bears fan and your scouting staff determined that we should draft Mitch Trubisky, who is Patrick Mahomes? I want the QB but man they better get the right one.
 

astrozombie

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I know this is qualified, but if Williams/Maye drop, take them at 3. Otherwise MHJ and somehow trade back in for Daniels or Penix. I know that is unrealistic, but it's what I want to see happen, right?
 

Zososoxfan

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Gotta gamble on the value of a promising rookie QB on 1st contract. If they draft MHJ instead, I'm fine with that. If they can get MHJ AND still get JJ McCarthy, that would be ideal.
 

OnWisc

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In a vacuum, no. But someone may want Williams so bad that they get a haul to drop further down, even if it costs them MHJ.
I think it's unlikely the Bears come away from the draft without either Williams or MHJ. The point of keeping Fields would be to add MHJ. The point of moving on from Fields would be to take Williams. To have the first overall pick and come away with neither the consensus #1 QB or #1 WR, they'd have to get package they could sell to their fanbase, and it would have to be something just overwhelming.

I think the Bears are in a unique spot where they've got the first overall pick in a draft where there's a consensus #1 that they might be willing to pass on, but a consensus top 3 guy that they're not. So they really need WAS and NE to fall in love with Williams and bid against each other for that pick.
 

Ale Xander

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1. Williams
2. Daniels
3. Trade down and get tackle 5-8 (or Odunze 6-10, or Verse 10+) as long as they don’t get Nix or McCarthy with a top 40 pick.
4. MHJ


I don’t like Maye’s pass/run decision-making to draft him at 3, but maybe I’m overreacting
 

Cellar-Door

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If we're ranking options, my preferences go:
1. Williams at 3.
2. Probably Daniels/Maye at 3.
3. Trade to 1 for Williams (unlikely, I think CHI takes him)
4. Trade down and take a OT or WR
5. THere is no 5, someone will trade up.
 

RG33

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I went with Harrison, with the thought process that Williams / Maye go #1 and #2, and that Harrison will be the BPA and potentially the best player drafted in this draft. I think you can then solve QB with either a FA or trade (Fields!) and then hopefully use the $100M to snatch up some more WR, OL, and TE help.
 

Eck'sSneakyCheese

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Gotta gamble on the value of a promising rookie QB on 1st contract. If they draft MHJ instead, I'm fine with that. If they can get MHJ AND still get JJ McCarthy, that would be ideal.
I am full team MHJ and this was my dream scenario when the season started to go to hell. I started to sway towards one of the top 3 QBs but none of them seem to stand out. McCarthy is young and didn't show much this year but I think he tests better than some expect.
 

rguilmar

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1. Williams
2. Daniels
3. Trade down and get tackle 5-8 (or Odunze 6-10, or Verse 10+) as long as they don’t get Nix or McCarthy with a top 40 pick.
4. MHJ


I don’t like Maye’s pass/run decision-making to draft him at 3, but maybe I’m overreacting
I’m with you 100%. I’m not sold on Maye and am higher on Daniels personally. If the Pats trade down and get a T, I’d hope that Keon Coleman is still there at 35, but I see some folks having him gone in the mid 1st round.
 

Cellar-Door

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I’m with you 100%. I’m not sold on Maye and am higher on Daniels personally. If the Pats trade down and get a T, I’d hope that Keon Coleman is still there at 35, but I see some folks having him gone in the mid 1st round.
whether it's for OT or WR, one good thing about a tradedown is it would set you up to slide back into the first for any fallers at WR/OT. Of course you still have no QB, but hey if you're trading down its because you think no QB left in the draft is going to be good enough and you're going Fields trade or Bridge QB.
 

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If Chicago decided to auction of the #1 pick, what's the most you would offer and what do you think it would realistically take? I don't think #3 and #34 would do it. I think if Chicago decided to keep Fields, a team like the Giants would offer something like #6, #39 and their 2025 1st rounder. I don't think any team would realistically value MHJ over something like Nabers + a future 1st.
 

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1. Williams
2. Daniels or Maye
3. MHJ

I don't see enough variance in value to trade up and I don' think trading down from the top 3 QBs or the generationally talented WR is smart when you need core offenseive weapons to build around.
 

Arroyoyo

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I haven’t seen enough from Daniels to justify a top-3 pick. I’ve just seen a handful of big plays from an insanely athletic guy but can’t seem to find much depicting a QB that can makes all the reads and throws.

I think Williams and Maye will be gone, so I voted MHJ.

Then Penix later…assuming you can trade up and you can:

1) Sign either Russell Wilson or Kirk Cousins for two years
2) Sign a top WR like Tee Higgins or Mike Evans or Michael Pittman
3) Re-sign Henry and Zeke

Russell/Kirk
Higgins/Evans/Pittman
MJH
Henry
Zeke and Tham

with Penix in development

Would be a huge win in 2024
 

Eddie Jurak

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I put one of the QBs, but I absolutely don't know enough about them to say which one or if I'd be OK with any of them.

The Athletic did a mock today where they had the Pats taking MHJ after Williams and Maye went 1-2 and then grabbing Nix in round 2.

I think it is highly unlikely that they will draft MHJ, much as I would like to see him as a Patriot. If there isn't a QB they want at #3, and maybe if there is, I see them trying to move down and pick up a tackle, also a big area of need.
 

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Trade up for Williams. It's probably next to impossible. After that, hope someone messes up and the Pats get Maye.
 

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I voted for any of the three QBs. I wouldn't be surprised if Daniels passes Maye as the draft/combine process unfolds, but either works for me.

I could see drafting MHJ and trading for Fields, but I wouldn't want to use the 2024 second-rounder to get him -- that's too valuable and timely a pick and Fields will have to get paid too soon. A 2024 3rd, or a 2025 2nd... perhaps.
 

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Assuming all three QBs remain as highly regarded up to draft day, bet the fucking chalk and take whoever is there at three. If I were a Billionaire Team Owner and my GM took Daniels/Williams/Maye and he flamed out, well, that's just how the draft works at times (a fair bit, actually). If my GM gets cute and passes on a guy who turns into Mahomes or Jackson or Allen, that's a fireable offense.
 

tmracht

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Really not sure what choice to pick.

I'd rather go Williams/Daniels if they make it to 3 as I don't think Maye is a guy to take at 3.
If they don't, I'd pivot to MHJ and someone like Fields for a Day 2 pick personally.

I wouldn't want to throw the world to get to 1/2 as I'm not sold on either being worth multiple firsts or whatever the cost would be. I guess a trade down could be interesting if they can get multiple top 90 picks out of it, as well. I'd just rather not see us spend a lot of capital to move up 1/2 spots. But I guess my mentality isn't any of the 4 choices.
 

Bowser

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If Williams is there at 3, you have to take him. But he won't be, and trading up will be prohibitively expensive. And as much as I like MHJ, there will be plenty of WR talent in Round 2.

So I went with trading down. Yes, this feels a bit gross, but I just don't see a significant difference between QBs 2-6. But there is, however, a sizeable gap between Fashanu/Alt and those who'll be available in Round 2. Take an OT with our first pick, trade back into Round 1 for a QB, and throw a mid-round pick at Joe Milton.
 

j-man

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i wouild throw everything to get williams if he is mahomes boom kc now has a rival and plus goddell and bill will be pissed if the pats turn into the texas in 2024
 
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I haven’t seen enough from Daniels to justify a top-3 pick. I’ve just seen a handful of big plays from an insanely athletic guy but can’t seem to find much depicting a QB that can makes all the reads and throws.

I think Williams and Maye will be gone, so I voted MHJ.

Then Penix later…assuming you can trade up and you can:

1) Sign either Russell Wilson or Kirk Cousins for two years
2) Sign a top WR like Tee Higgins or Mike Evans or Michael Pittman
3) Re-sign Henry and Zeke

Russell/Kirk
Higgins/Evans/Pittman
MJH
Henry
Zeke and Tham

with Penix in development

Would be a huge win in 2024
Higgins/Pittman are likely to be franchise tagged but if they aren’t, I don’t see how they can afford Cousins/Higgins and also retain guys like Onwenu/Dugger/Henry and also find a veteran LT since you’re presumably moving most of your other halfway decent picks to go back up to get Penix

Cousins and any high end WR are going to be incredibly expensive. I think that’s an either/or. Cousins is also likely to want a 3 year deal (maybe you can get away with 2) but drafting a 24 year old QB to sit and develop for half his rookie contract when he’s already on the older side for a rookie doesn’t seem like the best use of resources

I think you roll with Cousins and a true developmental guy like Pratt or Ward you can grab in the 3rd, or with Wilson and a 2nd rounder like Nix (if he’s there). But they still need a LT and I think that 2nd round pick is the place to try to get one

The idea of Cousins coming off a major injury and being protected by Verdarian Lowe or similar is terrifying