Tottenham Hotspur 24/25: To Dare is to Didgeridoo

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Despite a postseason tour of Australia, Spurs are getting some business done--Timo back on a loan, with option to buy.

I like it. If we accept what he *actually is* and not what folks may have thought when he first moved over to England...

 

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Damn, I meant to start this thread and call it "To Dare is to Didgeridoo"
 

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Damn, I meant to start this thread and call it "To Dare is to Didgeridoo"
I'll fix it! I couldn't really come up with anything. I was gonna go dingo-related at one point.
 

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I like the Timo deal. I don't know any Spurs fans who were disappointed by Timo and didn't want him back at that good price (mostly just wages since it's a loan with option). He's incredibly good at taking on defenders and is a good crosser. We don't really need much more from the position, especially if he's a rotation option (behind Son). It's good squad depth, although it does mean we need to move some players out.

Gil should very much be gone. Solomon should be sold or go out on loan--I don't see a world where he starts over Son, Deki, Johnson, or Werner. Everything in the news indicates Spurs are looking for a big upgrade on the wing, with the 'dribbly winger' profile emphasized.

In the middle, either Veliz or Parrott should back up Richy, and the other should be sold/loaned. If Richy is sold, then obviously a CF option needs to be brought in. Parrott and Scarlett should get looks.

At AMF, I expect GLC to be sold to Spain. I'm not sure if Bergvall is considered an AMF or CMF, but I'd expect them to bring in an established backup unless they're ready to give Donley a real look.

At CMF, Tanguy will be sold/loaned and we will all curse his name, as is tradition. I think PEH will get a good move since he only has 1 year left on his deal and is a solid player (fight me). Ben10 and Sarr are your presumed starters, with Bergvall as a backup. Maybe Skipp as well? Have to think they bring in another player to soak up PEH's minutes and ideally push either Ben10 or Sarr down a slot. Maybe Nile John is ready for a call up?

At DMF, it's Yves and...no one. Desperate need here.

The backline seems pretty settled other than backups. The only rotation option I expect to remain is Davies. Adios to Spence, Emerson, Reggie, and Japh. CB actually has a mini crunch, with Rodon and Phillips returning from loans. Dorrington probably a year or 2 away still.

IMO, the biggest priority this offseason is getting a DMF better than Yves to push him down a rung and build depth. Next biggest priority is improving the frontline with a starter quality player coming in, ideally on the wing. Beyond that, outgoings are more important, and building depth, especially at FB.
 

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I like the Timo deal. I don't know any Spurs fans who were disappointed by Timo and didn't want him back at that good price (mostly just wages since it's a loan with option). He's incredibly good at taking on defenders and is a good crosser. We don't really need much more from the position, especially if he's a rotation option (behind Son). It's good squad depth, although it does mean we need to move some players out.

Gil should very much be gone. Solomon should be sold or go out on loan--I don't see a world where he starts over Son, Deki, Johnson, or Werner. Everything in the news indicates Spurs are looking for a big upgrade on the wing, with the 'dribbly winger' profile emphasized.

In the middle, either Veliz or Parrott should back up Richy, and the other should be sold/loaned. If Richy is sold, then obviously a CF option needs to be brought in. Parrott and Scarlett should get looks.

At AMF, I expect GLC to be sold to Spain. I'm not sure if Bergvall is considered an AMF or CMF, but I'd expect them to bring in an established backup unless they're ready to give Donley a real look.

At CMF, Tanguy will be sold/loaned and we will all curse his name, as is tradition. I think PEH will get a good move since he only has 1 year left on his deal and is a solid player (fight me). Ben10 and Sarr are your presumed starters, with Bergvall as a backup. Maybe Skipp as well? Have to think they bring in another player to soak up PEH's minutes and ideally push either Ben10 or Sarr down a slot. Maybe Nile John is ready for a call up?

At DMF, it's Yves and...no one. Desperate need here.

The backline seems pretty settled other than backups. The only rotation option I expect to remain is Davies. Adios to Spence, Emerson, Reggie, and Japh. CB actually has a mini crunch, with Rodon and Phillips returning from loans. Dorrington probably a year or 2 away still.

IMO, the biggest priority this offseason is getting a DMF better than Yves to push him down a rung and build depth. Next biggest priority is improving the frontline with a starter quality player coming in, ideally on the wing. Beyond that, outgoings are more important, and building depth, especially at FB.
I'm with you on DMF, but I think striker is the next priority (though they need more on the wing as well). Parrott and Scarlett are not ready to compete in the EPL or even Europa. With many more games this year we need another almost-starting level CF to pair with Richy, I think it's the second biggest need.
 

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After thinking on this some and listening to some pods, it seems like Spurs are most eager to upgrade a forward spot, either at CF or RW. If they shell out for a CF, I'd guess it's because they have a chance to move Richy (likely to Saudi and he agrees) and/or they think the replacement (e.g., Toney) is better over the next 2-3 seasons. At RW, it's kind of similar in that the replacement (e.g., Olise, sorry to our resident Palace fan, @candylandriots ?) would have to be better than Kulu. Kulu is a helluva player but I'm not sure he's considered a perfect fit for Angeball. Moreover, he likely represents the possibility of the club booking a profit since we got him for 15-20M from Juve a few seasons ago and I'd expect his current value to be double that. This moment also likely represents a good opportunity to sell Richy from a value perspective as he's still only 27. That said, I wouldn't be upset about keeping Richy in the XI and getting him a more capable backup.

I don't see how the club can improve the XI at LW (Son, Werner), AMF (Maddison), CB (Romero, VDV), FB (Porro, Udogie), or keeper (Vicario). DMF has a thin market this summer (Paulinho from Fulham is the exception, but he's going to cost a lot of GBP and is likely currently riding his performance peak). at CMF, Ben10 and Sarr can be improved upon, and I'd guess the club are looking at that. But at the same time, those are 2 solid players and it likely shouldn't be a priority.

The other thing that's front of mind for Spurs is getting more academy players on the squad for UEL, and 2 familiar names immediately come to mind--KWP and Marcus Edwards. The Edwards rumor is particularly hilarious because Spurs still have a 30% sell-on right, and if they buy him (back) from Sporting, they could take a 30% discount on the price. That said, he doesn't really fit an obvious need, whereas KWP represents a pretty close to ideal backup for Porro.
 
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Tottenham Transfer DealSheet: Interest in Chelsea’s Conor Gallagher remains

They now want to identify a defensive midfielder and a versatile wide forward who can play at centre forward.

Spurs will also move for players depending on departures. If Emerson Royal leaves, they will focus on a right-back. If they lose Ben Davies, they will go for a left centre-back or a left-back. If Giovani Lo Celso leaves, Spurs will target an attacking midfielder.
Article mentions Gallagher and Isak.

Likely on the way out, in addition to those above: Reguilon, Rodon, Spence, Tanganga, Hojbjerg, Sessegnon.

Other online sources mention Skipp could move on to find more playing time, but he's homegrown, so that's a complication.
 

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So I’m guessing that our Spurs fans will be relieved that he won’t aggravate his injuries…

View: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1798595677389480120

Maddison out of Euro squad

He had regained form by the end of the season, yes? Seems to be a controversial decision among England supporters, lots of complaints about Southgate. I don’t think he gets a lot of time ahead of Bellingham, Gallagher, etc anyway.
 
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So I’m guessing that our Spurs fans will be relieved that he won’t aggravate his injuries…

View: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1798595677389480120

Maddison out of Euro squad

He had regained form by the end of the season, yes? Seems to be a controversial decision among England supporters, lots of complaints about Southgate. I don’t think he gets a lot of time ahead of Bellingham, Gallagher, etc anyway.
I don't think he really regained form by the end of the season and that squad spot is pretty valuable to Southgate if he doesn't like what he sees. Poor Gareth, he'll have to do with Jude, Foden, Palmer, Eze, et al.
 

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Yeah, if it was early season Maddison he would have a strong case, but England is so loaded with attacking players that a so-so Maddison is an easy cut imo.
 

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It's hard to think of someone in any sport that had a similar "fall". There's clear talent and the dude just did not want to apply himself. it's different than just flaming out. Dude just got his money and basically said "fuck off".
 

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Schedule has been released. We'll have to see how Cups and Europe factor in but I don't see a killer stretch anywhere like finishing last season with Newcastle, Arsenal, Liverpool, Man City as 4 of the final 6.

 

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Bergvall likely headed out on loan somewhere. Certainly a lot of kids being brought in to the fold, which makes sense. Spurs academy really does not produce first-team quality players and its a real problem.
 

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Bergvall likely headed out on loan somewhere. Certainly a lot of kids being brought in to the fold, which makes sense. Spurs academy really does not produce first-team quality players and its a real problem.
All the chatter on him has been he goes right into the first team squad, so I would actually be surprised if that happens. Maybe in January if he's pulling up zero trees and needs real minutes somewhere.
 

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All the chatter on him has been he goes right into the first team squad, so I would actually be surprised if that happens. Maybe in January if he's pulling up zero trees and needs real minutes somewhere.
Yeah, part of this was that he was going to the first team.

Tottenham are looking forward to having Bergvall arrive in the summer and Ange Postecoglou told football.london that while there is a lot of excitement around the teenager, he will have time to develop and adapt at his own pace within the first team squad.
We'll see.
 

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Inside Archie Gray’s move to Tottenham, his exit from Leeds, and a manic 48 hours

Though Gray left no doubt he was happy to remain at Leeds and that option was a possibility, there was frustration among those close to Gray about how the situation was handled and the pressure it created. The deal made business sense to Leeds under the circumstances.

The midfielder woke up on Sunday morning needing to make a big decision. After his conversations with Leeds, he told them to reject Brentford’s offer. They were only able to do so because Gray did not want to move to Brentford. By mid-morning on Sunday, he was on his way to speak with Spurs in person. Conversations between his camp and Tottenham had got them to a place where both sides were happy with the terms being offered. It meant Brentford were about to lose out on a player to Spurs for the second summer in a row — Gray following Brennan Johnson to north London rather than west.
 

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Bergvall likely headed out on loan somewhere. Certainly a lot of kids being brought in to the fold, which makes sense. Spurs academy really does not produce first-team quality players and its a real problem.
All the chatter on him has been he goes right into the first team squad, so I would actually be surprised if that happens. Maybe in January if he's pulling up zero trees and needs real minutes somewhere.
Agree with Jimi here. He should get minutes spelling Madders and the 8s (whoever's left of Sarr, Ben10, GLC, etc.).
 

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Some twitter talk about Jacob Ramsey in a swap for GLC and about £20M.

That seems like a pretty nice piece of work unless there's something I don't know.
 

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Gio + £20M for Ramsey? Seems like lot of cash to staple to the WC and Copa champ (age notwithstanding).

Is D'jed Spence back in Spurs plans of the Hearts friendly? Would fill an area of need.