Aaaaaand ….it looks sooo smooth like a Santana song. LET IT FLY, TIMELORD!!!!We have seen him take that shot on occasion, but it is extremely rare.
Aaaaaand ….it looks sooo smooth like a Santana song. LET IT FLY, TIMELORD!!!!We have seen him take that shot on occasion, but it is extremely rare.
He's attempted 4 so far this year. And two of those four were right at the bottom of the circle. So yes, extremely rare.We have seen him take that shot on occasion, but it is extremely rare.
If he can run the offense from the high post or top of the key, I don't care if he doesn't shoot.He's attempted 4 so far this year. And two of those four were right at the bottom of the circle. So yes, extremely rare.
He's only attempted 6 shots total from more than ten feet out
Yeah I said it would help him a ton going forward.If he can run the offense from the high post or top of the key, I don't care if he doesn't shoot.
The ball movement means a lot more, right now.
He's 24. Let's get to his peak first before we worry about aging.I’m wondering how well his game will age. His wingspan won’t get any shorter with the passage of time, certainly, but I’d guess his otherworldly vertical leap will fade. He is a good passer, and that should potentially get better as time goes on (it does for many players)
We also have him locked up for four more years at a bargain rate.He's 24. Let's get to his peak first before we worry about aging.
TL has the talent to be an All-Star center if -in my opinion - he can stay healthy and be more consistent. If . . . .
Not exactly what you asked for, but...I'd like to see Rob's numbers with and without Horford on the court with him. They obviously start the 1st and 3rd together, but I think there should be a good bit of sample where Rob is on there without Horford.
That would imply that Rob without Al is better, right?Not exactly what you asked for, but...
Rob's overall net rating is +5.3. Rob paired with Al is +3.9.
Or a jump hook, which would be unblockable.PLEASE PLEASE Work on a little 15 footer.
Love Rob....but a little variation from his Lobfense would be awesome. He would be 12-18 every game with 10+ rebounds and 2+ blocks
Yea, Rob is better than Horford. This team would be better off if IME didn't play them together and ~ the same amount of minutes. BUT IME is not changing his starting lineup/rotation mins. anytime soon after 2 blowoutsNot exactly what you asked for, but...
Rob's overall net rating is +5.3. Rob paired with Al is +3.9.
By a little bit yes. They're still pretty good together though.That would imply that Rob without Al is better, right?
that's a start and not the worst idea in the world if the matchup makes sense in Q4By a little bit yes. They're still pretty good together though.
It's interesting that the starters (MS JB JT AH RW) have a great net rating, and the best in the league defensive rating, but have only played together in the 4th for 4 minutes. Maybe Ime should ditch the 2 big lineup to start and save it to close.
Possibly. It implies that his numbers are better when he's on without Al, BUT... it's also important to note that because both are starters minutes with one and not the other tend to be against bench units. also samples are small so some games might skew it.That would imply that Rob without Al is better, right?
Fingers crossed. He'll double his career high in minutes played at this rate.What’s really remarkable is how he hasn’t been injured.
Agree on the sample, but I would also say that when he's on without Al, he's also likely on without both Tatum and Brown or whatever. So, I think it is very likely his "with Horford" minutes are artificially inflated by having the 3 best players on the Celtics playing with him, vs. when Rob is out there with Grant instead of Tatum, for example.Possibly. It implies that his numbers are better when he's on without Al, BUT... it's also important to note that because both are starters minutes with one and not the other tend to be against bench units. also samples are small so some games might skew it.
TL isn't an All-Star this year and will be hard pressed to be named one given Embiid, Bam, and now Mobely in the conference. That being said, TL has been really really good this year and as mentioned above surprisingly durable.It would be ironic if, after all this talk of how to acquire a third star, it turns out we already have that blossoming third star in TL.
By Raptor they're 22nd (RW) and 25th. That LEBRON number really seems off, but despite his shooting Al's advanced numbers really aren't bad.It's also interesting to me that despite all the crap that Al gets around here, he's 6th in the league in LEBRON among those players listed as Cs while TL is 25-ish.
for some reason LEBRON likes Horford's offensive contribution a lot more than TL's.By Raptor they're 22nd (RW) and 25th. That LEBRON number really seems off, but despite his shooting Al's advanced numbers really aren't bad.
Assists? This is total conjecture of course.for some reason LEBRON likes Horford's offensive contribution a lot more than TL's.
it usually doesn’t though as teams are going smaller sometimes within a true big at all and spacing the floor to hunt matchups.that's a start and not the worst idea in the world if the matchup makes sense in Q4
1. the C's pt differential (inflated by 2 blowouts) implies they should be substantially better than .500TL isn't an All-Star this year and will be hard pressed to be named one given Embiid, Bam, and now Mobely in the conference. That being said, TL has been really really good this year and as mentioned above surprisingly durable.
One would think that having a top 15 guy, a top 25 guy, a borderline-lite All-Star, and an All-Defensive player as a core would translate into a substantially better than .500 team but it hasn't.
It's also interesting to me that despite all the crap that Al gets around here, he's 6th in the league in LEBRON among those players listed as Cs while TL is 25-ish.
It's hard for me to be too critical of a starting lineup that - when together - is one of the best performing units in the league and the best one defensively. Cleaning the glass gives it a net rating of 21.5 in 354 posessions - the best unit with Rob that has played 80 possessions or more.Yea, Rob is better than Horford. This team would be better off if IME didn't play them together and ~ the same amount of minutes. BUT IME is not changing his starting lineup/rotation mins. anytime soon after 2 blowouts
According to the above, the common denominator to Rob's best lineups is Brown not Horford, I mean we can play with SSS combos all night. If you look at ALL of Rob's minutes his +/- efficiency spikes when he's not playing with Al, but even that is a little misleading on its own without context. My bigger concern with playing Al/TL together is excessive minutes for an older Horford + forcing minutes from your 3rd string Center. We'll see as the season wears on if Horford's excessive minutes hurt his efficiency. I thought he played better the first 6 weeks, but I'm not 100% certain that's due to minutesIt's hard for me to be too critical of a starting lineup that - when together - is one of the best performing units in the league and the best one defensively. Cleaning the glass gives it a net rating of 21.5 in 354 posessions - the best unit with Rob that has played 80 possessions or more.
There are 5 lineups Rob has played 97 possessions or more in, and the 2 best have Al.
The Schroder/Smart backcourt seems to be a problem, especially with Rob and Al. I don't think that comes as a surpise to anyone.
- Smart-Brown-Tatum-Al-Rob: +21.5 in 354
- Schroder-Brown-Tatum-Al-Rob: +19.3 in 109
- Schroder-Smart-Brown-Tatum-Rob: +11.3 in 134
- Schroder-Smart-Tatum-Grant-Rob: -10.3 in 97
- Schroder-Smart-Tatum-Al-Rob: -15.7 in 205
Yeah, the Celtics seem to be shopping Horford while shopping for replacements if they can move him. I think either way this is probably Al's last year here, he'll get traded or cut in the offseason if he makes it past the deadline I would guess. 3/27 for Theis isn't great, but it looks a lot better if he's your swing big, starting some nights, 1st off the bench others than if he's behind 2 other bigs.There's reports Celts have asked about Theis, who fits very well but is a bit pricey (3/$27 mil remaining after this year) to be the third big. But if you move off of Horford that makes a lot of sense to me. Or, less likely, if TL is outgoing to bring in a scorer/distributor.
Part of what I think is hard about the 2 Big discussion is that we need to have it against a few different scenarios: you really do want/need it against certain teams/lineups; you really don't want it against others (and IMO you don't want it when TL or Horford is out and Kanter is playing a lot of 2 big lineup minutes), etc. It is not an always or never thing and it does make sense sometimes---and generally does help defensively (albeit with offensive trade-offs).
Also, part of the logic on adding another big now would I assume be that Horford may well be gone next year, and if Kanter is back it's a very situational role, so you need to get those minutes somewhere. I do not agree with the view that all bigs are fungible---I think that's actually demonstrably false when we look at contending teams---but I do agree it is easier to fill the 'backup big' slot than many others.
I agree that they still somehow underutilize his alley oop threat. Pritchard had excellent chemistry with him last year, it is unfortunate his play hasn't warranted more floor time this season.It's amazing how much RWIII has increased his minutes per game this year while not getting those little injuries that plagued him the last few years and also increasing his production. He's second in the NBA in effective field goal % and 9th in offensive rebound percentage (4th in OREB per game). I think the Celtics could use him even more as a rim runner than they do, as I would think that would be a way to try and neutralize/mitigate shot blockers - which the Celtics struggle against (like vs. the Hawks). He's also maintained his elite shot blocking (4th in the league) while not getting into foul trouble despite such a huge increase in minutes played.
This really should be an area of focus for the Celtics because it can open things up. Jaylen Brown is not going to be a consistent, playmaker finding guys all over the court. But if he can learn to consistently hit Rob when driving, that will limit the center's ability to help off Rob.It's amazing how much RWIII has increased his minutes per game this year while not getting those little injuries that plagued him the last few years and also increasing his production. He's second in the NBA in effective field goal % and 9th in offensive rebound percentage (4th in OREB per game). I think the Celtics could use him even more as a rim runner than they do, as I would think that would be a way to try and neutralize/mitigate shot blockers - which the Celtics struggle against (like vs. the Hawks). He's also maintained his elite shot blocking (4th in the league) while not getting into foul trouble despite such a huge increase in minutes played.
Probably the most likely thing he will add is a jumper. (He's over 70% on free throws for the first time this year). I wouldn't mind him adding a post move or two, just something to go to when he's got the ball in close and there is a defender between him and the basket. Usually he just passes in that spot.He has 236 FGA this year and 96 of those are dunks (45% of FGA). If he develops any type of offensive game that isn't dunks and put backs, he's going to be a monster. His passing game elevates him above JAG big status and makes his contract a bargain rather than an average one or even a poor one. Add an offensive move or two and he could be the 3rd banana.
Well, it depends on how well he shoots them, doesn't it?Fwiw, I was psyched that he took that 3 yesterday. Not something that we want generally, but he is so passive with the ball in his hands. If he's being completely left alone from 15, he should take that shot.
Yeah I don't want him shooting them, but I was glad to see the display of confidence.Well, it depends on how well he shoots them, doesn't it?
I think we'd want to see him develop a midrange before he starts shooting threes, but in general I would like to see him extend his range as ffs at as he can.
I'm curious if this is something that is actually required. Do players really need to extend their game to 10-16 feet before they can extend it to beyond the arc? What happens if he practices taking 3s and skips the midrange?Well, it depends on how well he shoots them, doesn't it?
I think we'd want to see him develop a midrange before he starts shooting threes, but in general I would like to see him extend his range as ffs at as he can.
Jayson Tatum definitely wasn't.Fwiw, I was psyched that he took that 3 yesterday. Not something that we want generally, but he is so passive with the ball in his hands. If he's being completely left alone from 15, he should take that shot.
Wasn't there like 2 on the shotclock with no one open? I didn't think it was a bad shot at the time.Yeah I don't want him shooting them, but I was glad to see the display of confidence.
I couldn't quite read his reaction if he was saying that RWIII should have swung it to Tatum, or if he was just psyched to see the shot. There were abotu 2 seconds on the clock when RWIII got the ball.Jayson Tatum definitely wasn't.
He was jumping up and down with his hands in the air