I mean its fine if you think they aren’t trying to win. I don’t believe that, though. So it’s not that I am mad it is just alarming that this is happening under BB. They have an awful roster and play boring, shitty football every Sunday, and are now losing games to other awful teams. They are the worst or second worst team in the league. Losing to get a top 2 pick doesn’t really make me all warm and fuzzy for the future.
His Giants won a playoff game last season. The claim that Daboll sucks as a coach is not supported by the evidence.
It kinda should if you, like pretty much everyone else, think the Patriots badly need a QB.
I would bet he doesn't draft a QB in the first round. If he's still around, he's going to trade down and try to upgrade the o line. He'll go after a second or third round QB and sign some veteran stiff.
I would gladly take that bet if they end up in a spot where one of the top QBs is available.
Nah, just stick with this kid. He'll improve.
If I had to guess, it's because Bill Belichick was never as good a talent evaluator/GM as we made him out to be and having Tom Brady covered for a lot of head-scratching decisions that look bizarre and impractical when someone much worse is the QB.
Maybe. But he did draft and sign (as UDFAs and normal FAs) a lot of really, really, really good players over the years.
This is a lot of words for "tell BB you want him to resign rather than firing him." Not only would BB not go for RKK channeling his inner Jerah Jones nonsense, neither would most of the GMs or coaches in the NFL.
Yep, he definitely did. He also made/makes a lot of really obviously poor decisions when it comes to roster management, such as drafting mid-round kickers and punters when the difference between them and street free agents is minimal, as you point out.
Anything is better than watching this dinosaur's product every Sunday. Don't care who the next guy is. I want them to clean the entire operation out.
I will say it again: with league-average QB play this team is likely 7-4 and in the hunt for a playoff spot. But when your QB puts up a WAR of -4.0 he can single-handedly ruin the season.
Yeah those are head scratchers that make no sense really. But on the whole, you don't do what the Pats did from 2000-2019 without making a LOT more good decisions than bad ones. But recently, it's not been as good a track record, that's for sure.
Neither can Zappe. The roster is a big problem and so is the coaching at this point. Blow them all out.
Yeah, BB won't be taking that offer or any other. He will stay as long as all other things remain the same.
It's the QB position. The roster is OK. There is talent there. But the QB drags everyone down with him.
The roster is a bottom 5 roster in the league. You overrate it by a lot. The receivers are mostly a joke, TE's pretty average, OL average to below average. There are holes everywhere. If I was starting another team I don't think there is one Patriot I want even starting a roster with outside of maybe Christian Gonzalez.
25-20 loss to Philly - very competitive, actually outgained Philly by 131 yards
Right, during that time period, he probably made more good ones than bad. But he was built up to be this mastermind because he goes against the grain and those counterintuitive moves don't make as much sense when you don't have the best QB of all time.
We're never going to agree on this. The talent is there, but the QB is single-handedly ruining the entire season. He's literally the worst QB I've ever seen. It's an NFL crime to keep playing him.
You're off your rocker. The offense is terrible. The QB is also terrible. When you have that combo, you're the worst team in the league.
Because the QB sucks.
Right. Counterintuitive moves definitely look a lot worse when they don't work out and you can't cover for them.
The offense would be perfectly cromulent with a QB who was better than Hodson level.
Mac LITERALLY threw the ball directly to a DB today because he was scared to take a hit.
I don't have any problem admitting that. And I've been one of Mac's biggest advocates ever since the 2021 draft. But he's not the answer. At all. He's regressed badly from his rookie year and has been very very bad the past two seasons. Not the answer at all.
Zach, at the very very least, has an NFL arm. Mac is throwing 50/50 balls 4 yards downfield
If there's one reason to move on from BB is because he didn't permanently bench Mac six games ago.
Isn’t that most teams? The Pats point differential (-100) is fourth worst in the league. Sure, several games they could have won! Also, could easily be 0-11.
If this is true, why has the organization been unable to acquire such a player? Has such a move not been available to them? Do they think Mac is fine? Not prioritizing winning? If I were RKK, I’d be asking my coach / GM why our QB situation is the way it is.
They definitely could be 0-11 and are pretty lucky right now they aren't because that really should have been the case had Rodgers not been hurt and Buffalo didn't poop their pants.
Watching guys like Aidan O'Connell, Will Levis, Dorian Thompson-Robinson and Jake Browning be at least competent today suggests a couple of things: You can find a guy anywhere in the draft, it also suggests there might be something really wrong with your college evaluation process.
Maybe. But they both are terrible. And who chose them?
I was just addressing the idea that they're not even competitive. They are competitive, almost all the time. They just...lose in the end. But for the most part, the games are really close.
I believe it’s been covered here; absolutely nothing else the org could have done.
Yes of course you're right. BB chose them. The point I was addressing was SJH's contention that BB should not have played Mac the last 6 weeks. Well, his other in-house option was worse. So yeah, he could have gone outside the organization I suppose.
They have the 4th worst point differential in the league.
