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pedro1918

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And I’m not going to start one, but this seems important:

DeBruyne out for 4 months??

Manchester City midfielder Kevin De Bruyne could miss the next four months with the club set to decide whether the Belgium international needs surgery on a hamstring injury, manager Pep Guardiola has said.

De Bruyne limped off during the first half of City's 3-0 win over Burnley on Friday after suffering a recurrence of the problem which cut short his involvement in the Champions League final in June.
 

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How many players does Pep want that he doesn't have? Like, I don't think he'd want Mbappe on his team necessarily because he needs that player to put in more defensively and be positionally sound. But more generally, is there a position that Pep would realistically want to upgrade? I feel like he's more about crafting new tactics that perhaps need a different skillset, but with Foden, Grealish, and Bernardo, I don't expect too much dropoff, although no one can thread a killer 40-yard pass quite like KDB.
 

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How many players does Pep want that he doesn't have? Like, I don't think he'd want Mbappe on his team necessarily because he needs that player to put in more defensively and be positionally sound. But more generally, is there a position that Pep would realistically want to upgrade? I feel like he's more about crafting new tactics that perhaps need a different skillset, but with Foden, Grealish, and Bernardo, I don't expect too much dropoff, although no one can thread a killer 40-yard pass quite like KDB.
He could use a better keeper. Ederson’s great at distribution but is pretty mediocre in just about everything else.

Edit: mind you that distribution skillset may be valued over all else - especially given the paucity of shots he faces.
 
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Inside Manchester City’s history-making fourth Premier League title in a row - The Athletic (nytimes.com)

Rodri had left the stadium on the verge of tears, on his way to a meal for the squad and their families before they flew out to Saudi Arabia for the Club World Cup that night. The atmosphere was completely flat, with the players’ loved ones not daring to lighten the mood.
Haaland's sacrifice and Walker's call to arms: How City won title (telegraph.co.uk)

To quote the philosopher Mike Shinoda "I tried so hard and got so far/But in the end, it doesn't even matter "
 
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Interesting topic, which players would be your top five most important City players over the last four seasons?

Without too much research, I'm going to say

1. KDB
2. Dias
3. Walker
4. Halaand
5. Silva
 

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Is it cheating to put Guardiola first?

For all the deserved plaudits Guardiola gets as a tactical wizard, I think his man-management skills have been hugely underrated. It's incredibly difficult to keep a group of multimillionaires focused and committed for that many years without getting tuned out, and especially with his seemingly odd rotation and lineup choices, where players bounce in and out of the first XI and have their roles change.
 

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Yeah I brain farted on Rodri. I think Pep has so much credibility and success that players buy into his philosophy and sometimes unusual decisions because it is impossible to argue with the results. City also spend their money really wisely, in addition to having more of it than pretty much anyone else. Rarely do they make a big signing and have that person bomb, the way you might see at Chelsea or United.
 

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Yeah I brain farted on Rodri. I think Pep has so much credibility and success that players buy into his philosophy and sometimes unusual decisions because it is impossible to argue with the results. City also spend their money really wisely, in addition to having more of it than pretty much anyone else. Rarely do they make a big signing and have that person bomb, the way you might see at Chelsea or United.
They've had a few bombs. In the last two years, they spent 62m euros on Matheus Nunes and 50m euros on Kalvin Phillips, who played a combined 754 league minutes this season. They also spent 118m euros on Grealish and have only gotten one good season out of three from him; this year, he only played 1009 league minutes and had 1 goal and 3 assists.
 

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They've had a few bombs. In the last two years, they spent 62m euros on Matheus Nunes and 50m euros on Kalvin Phillips, who played a combined 754 league minutes this season. They also spent 118m euros on Grealish and have only gotten one good season out of three from him; this year, he only played 1009 league minutes and had 1 goal and 3 assists.
Nunes was hardly a waste. Summer window didn’t shake out as expected when Paqueta investigation prevented that move and Nunes move was made for depth. He didn’t become a major player but he played some important minutes in a position City were light in. He’s still young and can likely be sold if they don’t feel he’s a long term solution.

Grealish probably was OK value for what top players are going for now but that fee will always be hard to justify without production. I wish he had spent some time as more of an 8 in Pep’s old system but we hardly play that football anymore. Phillips obviously is a complete miss of a signing.

The exercise proposed above is tricky because of the 5 year part which makes longevity really important and maybe even precludes Haaland in my list. If done over the last 2 seasons then Foden and Haaland both make my list but over a 5 year period it is:

1. Rodri
2. KDB
3. Bernardo
4. Ederson
5. Dias

Hon mention: Stones but he just can’t play enough

I suspect Ederson is the most controversial here but there just aren’t a lot of keepers who can play the way he does and we always get vulnerable to high press when he’s out. We finally found Ortega who has been like 70% as good with his feet but over the full time period he’s been really critical to how we play.

For me if you take the CL treble winners and this years team you add Foden and Haaland and drop Bernardo and Dias. I don’t think fans are giving enough credit to the season Foden just had. Other players are but it’s actually kind of remarkable that a quite young English player won player of the season and It hasn’t turned into some idiotic “is he better than Messi” English press driven garbage
 

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Yeah I brain farted on Rodri. I think Pep has so much credibility and success that players buy into his philosophy and sometimes unusual decisions because it is impossible to argue with the results. City also spend their money really wisely, in addition to having more of it than pretty much anyone else. Rarely do they make a big signing and have that person bomb, the way you might see at Chelsea or United.
I thought Rodri was a bomb his first season (19-20). He looked so slow and out of sorts. It took a season, but he bedded in to become the best on the world in that role. Incredible stuff.
 

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Almost lost Jack Watch: Jack Grealish almost falls off Manchester City's open-top bus parade twice (telegraph.co.uk)

Bernardo Silva also suggested memories of the United defeat were not weighing too heavily on the players as they look back instead at another record-breaking season.

“It’s incredible, it’s special, it’s never been done before,” he said of the team’s fourth straight title. “It’s time to celebrate now with our people. We were looking forward to it and now is the time.
Sounds like the only trophy that mattered this season was getting four in a row
 

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If City win this will have very uncertain consequences because I don't think the rest of the league, which is majority American owned at this point, won't just accept it.

The anchoring proposal to limit clubs to spending 4.5 times the domestic broadcast revenue of the lowest earning team in the PL may also be a preemptive step. If City win this case, my guess is that anchoring sails through when the PL votes on it this summer.

https://x.com/TimesSport/status/1797999246081200238