The Game ball Thread: Week 6 at the Spikes

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Alright it's 5:20am in Seoul and haven't gotten a wink of sleep. But damn was it worth it. I got three game balls:
  • Brady: 4 TDs, 0 INT, 27/37 for 346 yards. That's a RIFT
  • Gronk: huge 3rd down catch on the way to the final TD
  • Revis: (almost) shuts down Watkins
And ummm, AFCE is not wide open fellas. 
 

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SeoulSoxFan said:
Alright it's 5:20am in Seoul and haven't gotten a wink of sleep. But damn was it worth it. I got three game balls:
  • Brady: 4 TDs, 0 INT, 27/37 for 346 yards. That's a RIFT
  • Gronk: huge 3rd down catch on the way to the final TD
  • Revis: (almost) shuts down Watkins
And ummm, AFCE is not wide open fellas. 
Just remember, CC wasn't trolling when he said that.
 

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Brady
OL except Solder
Gronk
Revis
McCourty
Nink
LaFell (!!!)


In memorandum:
Mayo
Ridley
Connolly?
 

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That was more encouraging than last week. Didn't think the offense had that in them. Mayo is clearly a huge blow, probably not going to have that top ten defense we were hoping for.

Brady was Hall of Fame good today
 

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Wasn't able to see the whole game but it seemed like the pass protection was solid. The running game was non-existent, which actually made their protection on some of the play action I saw even more impressive - whether from a scheme and/or blocking standpoint.

Also, Aaron Williams injury was a big issue for the Bills secondary.
 

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I would like to give a game ball to Brandon LaFell, who caught 4 passes for 97 yards and 2 TDs. Groningen and Edelman were the only other receivers with multiple receptions.
 
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Defense gameball Jamie Collins for the pick and stepping in for Mayo as the signal caller
 
Offensive gameball to Lafell. Key catches, key TD's, some here wanted him gone after preseason and he's now your 2nd WR.
 

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I thought the DL played a really strong game.  Stout against the run, pushed the pocket.  Nice game as a unit. 
 

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nazz45 said:
Wasn't able to see the whole game but it seemed like the pass protection was solid. The running game was non-existent, which actually made their protection on some of the play action I saw even more impressive - whether from a scheme and/or blocking standpoint.

Also, Aaron Williams injury was a big issue for the Bills secondary.
 
You clearly missed the whole first half, then.
 
Brady, LaFell, Gronk and Ninkovich were great today.
 

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You clearly missed the whole first half, then.
They lost two starters late in the week. All things considered, the unit was solid outside of worst LT in football Nate Solder. He may lose his job soon.
 

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Duke Williams... the greatest DPI in the history of the NFL
 
It really was the greatest...topped by the fact that the ball hit him in the helmet.
 
And I'll throw some Josh Kline love into the mix. Everytime I looked he was controlling his guy. And wasn't Jamie Collins terrific on defense?
 

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LaFell basically has all the same tools of Dobson, but has some of the intangibles that Dobson lacks, and seems to be integrating himself into the offense pretty well over the last three weeks.
 
Thought DMC was very good today as a playmaker. He has benefited the most with Revis aboard.
 

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Tyms TD changed the game. Great second half after the defense kept them in it. Situational football won the first half.

That offense in the second half was what we've been waiting for.

Game balls to Tyms, second Half OL and of course Tom MFBrady.
 

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Want to second the honorary game ball to Mayo. Glue player and from what everyone says a great and well respected guy and we might have seen the last of him as a Pat. Injuries fucking suck.
 

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Pats play both Denver and Indy back to back with a bye in between, starting in a few weeks. Those games will shape the AFC. Pats beat them both, and they have the inside road at the top seed all of a sudden after lol Brady rift.
 

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Brady looked like the best QB on the planet today. Touch rainbow passes, deep balls into triple coverage where only his guy could get it, lasers over the middle, quick timing outs and 20-yard outs. He made every throw today. Every throw. It was like a college kid having his pro day. 
 
So fun to watch. 
 

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Rob Mutha funking Ninkovich says hello.  He hates (offensive) Boiler Makers.
 

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I would like to thank the Buffalo secondary for being awful. Who pushes a guy in the endzone when the ball is in the air? You have 4 DBs around Tyms and can't make the play. The last Lafell TD the DB did not give maximum effort. 
 
Brady was 15-17 in the second half, Collins with the INT, the strip-sack by Jones was huge, and Nink's 3 sack. Plus the run defense was studly. Nice job by Vince and the rest of the defensive line. 
 

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By the way, Casey Walker filling in for Siliga very impressively is a shot out of the dark, isn't it? Granted not going against top O-linemen, so will have to see, but a nice start anyway (had a few snaps the previous week, too)
 

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Game balls all around, as far as I'm concerned.  This was another team effort, and coming off that absolute shit beating they gave to the Bengals last week, I don't know how anyone can't be excited about the Pats prospects.  If they come out and stomp on the Jets on Thursday the way they should (which never seems to happen unfortunately), they are going to have a nice 9 days to rest up for what is a brutal stretch (vs. Chicago, vs. Denver, Bye, @ Indy, vs. Detroit, @ Green Bay, @ San Diego).  I don't think there is a game in that entire stretch that the Pats should be favored by more than 4 points in, if they are even favored at all.  However, that bye week comes at a great time.  They have to get the job done on Thursday.  It's about as close to a "must-win" as a 4-2 team can possibly have, IMO.  After that stretch of 6 games, they finish with their last 3 against their division rivals.  I'll be happy with this team being 8-5 going into those last three games.
 
I'd like to point out this team's ability to cause turnovers.  This is something that was a staple of the great Patriots teams of the early 2000's.  3 more turnovers today, makes 14 through 6 games, to only 5 giveaways.  If they keep protecting the ball, and taking it away at opportune times, they'll be able to mask a ton of deficiencies that they have.  That strip sack by Chandler today was absolutely fucking huge.  5 more sacks today, gets them to 15 on the season and top 10 in that department, although if you read the game threads around here, you'd think we haven't even laid a finger on an opposing QB this year.
 
This team really, really reminds me of the early 2000's Pats teams.  Game management on offense, opportunistic defense, and doing all of the little things (hello Matthew Slater) better than their opponents.  Penalties at bad times might be the one thing I think we need to really work on, but I'm not so much sure that's a function of the way they are playing, or just how shitty and inconsistent the NFL officiating has been to this point in the season.
 

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Duke Williams... the greatest DPI in the history of the NFL
 
 
That really was great.  If you're going to do it, you might as well make sure of it.  I laughed out loud and I appreciate that he didn't have the gall to complain about it.  
 
I second Brady and nominate the interior of the O-Line and Nink for either 2.5 or 3 sacks today. 
 

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By the way, Casey Walker filling in for Siliga very impressively is a shot out of the dark, isn't it? Granted not going against top O-linemen, so will have to see, but a nice start anyway (had a few snaps the previous week, too)
Him and Vince have plugged the middle against the run. He has been a pleasant surprise.
 

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Game balls all around, as far as I'm concerned.  This was another team effort, and coming off that absolute shit beating they gave to the Bengals last week, I don't know how anyone can't be excited about the Pats prospects.  If they come out and stomp on the Jets on Thursday the way they should (which never seems to happen unfortunately), they are going to have a nice 9 days to rest up for what is a brutal stretch (vs. Chicago, vs. Denver, Bye, @ Indy, vs. Detroit, @ Green Bay, @ San Diego).  I don't think there is a game in that entire stretch that the Pats should be favored by more than 4 points in, if they are even favored at all.  However, that bye week comes at a great time.  They have to get the job done on Thursday.  It's about as close to a "must-win" as a 4-2 team can possibly have, IMO.  After that stretch of 6 games, they finish with their last 3 against their division rivals.  I'll be happy with this team being 8-5 going into those last three games.
 
I'd like to point out this team's ability to cause turnovers.  This is something that was a staple of the great Patriots teams of the early 2000's.  3 more turnovers today, makes 14 through 6 games, to only 5 giveaways.  If they keep protecting the ball, and taking it away at opportune times, they'll be able to mask a ton of deficiencies that they have.  That strip sack by Chandler today was absolutely fucking huge.  5 more sacks today, gets them to 15 on the season and top 10 in that department, although if you read the game threads around here, you'd think we haven't even laid a finger on an opposing QB this year.
 
This team really, really reminds me of the early 2000's Pats teams.  Game management on offense, opportunistic defense, and doing all of the little things (hello Matthew Slater) better than their opponents.  Penalties at bad times might be the one thing I think we need to really work on, but I'm not so much sure that's a function of the way they are playing, or just how shitty and inconsistent the NFL officiating has been to this point in the season.
They'll be favored vs Chicago and Detroit. Denver might be 1-2 pt favorites due to it being at home. I think they'll be favored at GB slightly. At Indy and SD will not be.
 

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You clearly missed the whole first half, then.
 
Brady, LaFell, Gronk and Ninkovich were great today.
You'd be right. I can see that both sacks came in the 1st half. Box score shows six QB hits in all. Not sure where to find a breakdown of QB hits and hurries by half but he had a nice pocket and some clear throwing lanes in the second half.
 
Could be wrong, but I think the first few pass plays to start the second half were designed roll outs, which we don't see too often. Definitely some nice adjustments made at the half.
 

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Brady looked like the best QB on the planet today. Touch rainbow passes, deep balls into triple coverage where only his guy could get it, lasers over the middle, quick timing outs and 20-yard outs. He made every throw today. Every throw. It was like a college kid having his pro day. 
 
So fun to watch. 
And a dead duck that went for big yards.
 

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Game balls all around, as far as I'm concerned.  This was another team effort, and coming off that absolute shit beating they gave to the Bengals last week, I don't know how anyone can't be excited about the Pats prospects.  If they come out and stomp on the Jets on Thursday the way they should (which never seems to happen unfortunately), they are going to have a nice 9 days to rest up for what is a brutal stretch (vs. Chicago, vs. Denver, Bye, @ Indy, vs. Detroit, @ Green Bay, @ San Diego).  I don't think there is a game in that entire stretch that the Pats should be favored by more than 4 points in, if they are even favored at all.  However, that bye week comes at a great time.  They have to get the job done on Thursday.  It's about as close to a "must-win" as a 4-2 team can possibly have, IMO.  After that stretch of 6 games, they finish with their last 3 against their division rivals.  I'll be happy with this team being 8-5 going into those last three games.
 
I'd like to point out this team's ability to cause turnovers.  This is something that was a staple of the great Patriots teams of the early 2000's.  3 more turnovers today, makes 14 through 6 games, to only 5 giveaways.  If they keep protecting the ball, and taking it away at opportune times, they'll be able to mask a ton of deficiencies that they have.  That strip sack by Chandler today was absolutely fucking huge.  5 more sacks today, gets them to 15 on the season and top 10 in that department, although if you read the game threads around here, you'd think we haven't even laid a finger on an opposing QB this year.
 
This team really, really reminds me of the early 2000's Pats teams.  Game management on offense, opportunistic defense, and doing all of the little things (hello Matthew Slater) better than their opponents.  Penalties at bad times might be the one thing I think we need to really work on, but I'm not so much sure that's a function of the way they are playing, or just how shitty and inconsistent the NFL officiating has been to this point in the season.
 
Not that anyone needs another reason to give Brady a game ball, but TB not getting stripped when he was mugged from behind with the ball exposed was incredible. Dude has strong, strong hands...
 
And yeah - TB gets a ball...and then there;s a big gap before the next one that gets awarded
 
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I second the game ball being given to "Groningen," and only half-jokingly suggest that we start calling him that exclusively.

Also, Brady and Collins - more for the job he did calling plays in Mayo's absence than for the (rather impressive) INT.
 

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1) Brady
2) Gronk
3) The OL - 3/5 of a starting unit against that defensive front, and the second half looked like the 2011 offense again.  
 

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Also, am I correct that Brady hit 10 different receivers and Amendola didn't even have a target?
 

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Think so yes.

Took a quick look at the second half, didnt look like the Pats did a lot different in the second half on the line besides execute blocked better up front and keep the back in to chip on occasion. Looked like mostly Solder/Devey/Wendell/Kline/Vollmer withCannon in for Vollmer at least one series. Most plays the ball came out fast to an open guy, so maybe the improvement was in getting open faster. Bills never sent extra pressure. On the few occasions the line had to block for an extended time they did highlighted by the 3rd and long toss to Gronk where the line, with an assist from Bolden, did a tremendous job. Maybe Connolly sucked worse than we thought. Not a lot of push in the running game but at least they weren't giving up jailbreaks.
 

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Also wonder if playing a team like the Bills that doesn't vary what they do up front that much helped given the communication issues that have prevailed prior to today. I didn't count a single five man rush in the second half.
 

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I thought C. Jones had a great game, so I went to the boxscore to look for the stats, but Nink is listed as having 6 tackles, 4 TFLs and 4 QB hits. If that's accurate (I don't remember him being that disruptive), he should probably get a ball. Brady and Gronk clearly get balls. Solder has to give one (that he doesn't have) back.
 

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PFF:
Brady 4.7 (7-11 on intermediate and deep balls and threw 20 balls outside the numbers completing 15 of them.  Threw 8 against KC and 11 against the Bengals.  Also threw 13 balls to the right side after throwing 1 and 3 the previous two weeks)
Gronk 3.9 (3.7 passing.  Looks to me like receiving Gronk is 90% of the way back, mauler Gronk in the blocking game still a work in progress)
Wendell: 2.6 (1.1 pass, 1.4 run, lets hope '11/'12 Wendell is back)
Hooman 1.5 (Driven by positive run blocking, id have to go back and look at that again, didn't seem that way live, not sure if others saw differently)
Vollmer: 1.3 (pass block drive)
LaFell and Tyms both over 1 for passing game, Tyms taken down by run blocking and LaFell from penalty
 
Kline: -2.7, driven by -2.2 pass block (looked OK to me, shows what I know)
Ridley: -1.5
Vereen: -1.3 (disappointment this year IMO)
Solder: -1.3 but he pass blocked fine
Edelman: -1.2 (PFF not a fan this year, grades him negatively overall)
 
Defense
Mayo: 2.8 driven by good run defense early.  Fuck.  He's graded very well against the run since the opener in Miami, so big loss here (duh)
McCourty: 2.6 and strong in all aspects.  Only 4 negative games since the start of 2012, and worst was graded -1.2
Chandler Jones: 1.1 pass rush driven, graded OK vs. run
Walker and Chung 0.8: Coaching staff seems to have found a niche for Chung.  Walker looking like Siliga, serviceable run defender off the street and even added a hurry
 
Nink: -2.1, was bad against the run.  PFF has generally liked him in the past, so they see the regression in play that we see
Chris Jones: -2.1, bad across the board, had graded as serviceable to this point
Dennard: -1.2, mostly driven by penalty
Arrington: -1, pass coverage driven
 

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Every week I see these ratings and at least one of them so thoroughly fails the smell test that it's hard to take any of it seriously. This week it's Edelman. Of the three targets he didn't pull in, one was an errant pass and one was a DPI in the endzone (I don't recall the 3rd off-hand). He had, at worst, a good game.
 

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They really don't like Edelman's game and, I agree, its very curious.  The turf monster tackled him on one as well, not sure if that's the one that you have marked as errant pass.