The Ballad of Andrew Bailey: Will the harvest come in?

Yo La Tengo

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Does it have a reference for if that's higher or lower than in the past?
No. And comparing historical data would be interesting on a number of fronts. Stepping back, this is a chicken/egg issue. IF the majority of pitchers are inevitably going to face significant injuries, squeezing every bit of spin out of them for a limited number of years could be an understandable strategy. BUT, if there was a better way to reliably protect those top prospects in order to produce higher value over time, a more conservative approach would be more attractive.
 

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Bailey chose to come here as a pitching coach rather than other bench opportunities that in theory would better further is career.
I don't know the internal machinations going on on Yawkey way, but I'd argue that Bailey - obviously a bright guy - could have taken a look at the staff/farm here and seen a better opportunity to solidify his resume by turning around the pitching staff of a - still - highly regarded, cornerstone franchise in the MLB. Early results look spectacular and I'm sure he's right on top of many team's lists at the moment. Also, he likely understands that the better he is at his job the likelier it is that Cora gets extended. If this team overachieves and makes the playoffs, I'd say it's a lock that Cora gets extended and also likely that Bailey moves on to take the big seat elsewhere. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if Bailey's ultimate goal is an executive role.

It's funny how in the fandom Cora ranges from Co-GM to lame duck keeping the seat warm for his pitching coaching who's gotten a wink and a nod about how his future in Boston might play out. This will be fascinating to track.
 

Yelling At Clouds

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I guess if Bailey is such a good pitching coach then I am not sure why the team would want him to be the manager.
 

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Mike Petriello has an article up on MLB.com about the changes in the Red Sox pitching approach this season. The article has some notable observations about pitch velocity and induced vertical break and sheds light on why the Sox were so eager to acquire Slaten. Just a pair of highlights here:

Yes, they really are throwing fewer fastballs (defined here as four-seam and sinkers) than any team in the pitch-tracking era, dating back to 2008. We don’t have reliable data before that, other than to say that it’s extremely hard to believe anyone in baseball history earlier than that was really throwing fewer fastballs, so it’s reasonable to think this might be the least fastballing team ever.

Lowest fastball rate, 2008-pres. (2020 excluded)
  • 35% – 2024 Red Sox [It was 48% in 2023.]
  • 41% – 2024 Rays/Twins, 2022 Rays,
  • 43% – 2023 Giants/Angels/Reds/Guardians, 2021 Rays

Changes for Houck:

He’s still the sinker/slider pitcher he was when he first came up, except that the four-seamer that was once another primary pitch is completely gone, replaced by a new cutter and far, far more splitters.