Reid has had a helluva career and he very well may pass BB in playoff wins, in seasons with 12+ wins, and seasons with 11+ wins. A long way to go though for SB championships.
Thank you Bill Belichick
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Hate to see the GOAT go. I was privileged to post the last "Belichick Breakdown" that will ever be produced.
What I find so odd and off putting are the people still indulging in the idiotic ‘Brady or Belichick?’ nonsense, now supplemented by an equally specious ‘Should we blame Belichick or the Krafts?’ when discussing BB’s departure.
JFC, we as a fanbase had two-plus decades of unparalleled success thanks to savvy, supportive, homegrown ownership along with two of the GOATs at their respective jobs. It’s almost definitely never happening to any franchise in any sport ever again. It’s to be celebrated (there may be a thread on this somewhere) and, at this time, yes, mourned as well.
So, let the Felgers and Adam Joneses of the world piss and moan and play pointless blame games. At least they get paid to be assholes. But for those of us with eyes to see, these were the very best of times, when excellence was achieved again and again and again—and three more times after that. We got to witness something great, something beautiful in its own way, something most sports fans will never experience. I’ll always get a chill and a thrill remembering it all.
JFC, we as a fanbase had two-plus decades of unparalleled success thanks to savvy, supportive, homegrown ownership along with two of the GOATs at their respective jobs. It’s almost definitely never happening to any franchise in any sport ever again. It’s to be celebrated (there may be a thread on this somewhere) and, at this time, yes, mourned as well.
So, let the Felgers and Adam Joneses of the world piss and moan and play pointless blame games. At least they get paid to be assholes. But for those of us with eyes to see, these were the very best of times, when excellence was achieved again and again and again—and three more times after that. We got to witness something great, something beautiful in its own way, something most sports fans will never experience. I’ll always get a chill and a thrill remembering it all.
There are so many great Bill moments, but, along with the shots of Bill being the only person in the stadium not to react to crazy plays, this shot from SB 51 in the midst of that unparalleled comeback was always a favorite. General Belichick.
Brady or Belichick is so dumb. Only with their combined powers could they achieve the impossible -- 6 SB rings and about 50 AFC Championships (I might be forgetting a couple). I think Bill suffers from the fact that what's fresh in most NFL fans' minds is Tom Brady, the perennial MVP candidate, but that was the back half of his career.
Post-Brady, there was the windy game against the Bills where he nearly refused to call passing plays (3 throws all day)...and he was right. I was giddy that day.
He probably should have employed that game plan more often with Mac at QB (I kid).
Great, he got some votes one year. I don't think that disproves my theory. Brady was not considered a top MVP candidate going into every season back then and was not the statistical monster that he came to be.
View: https://twitter.com/alyssalimp/status/1745649833334222892
A Boston Woman’s statement on Belichick leaving the Patriots
A Boston Woman’s statement on Belichick leaving the Patriots
Like the Xmas video of Nick Offerman sipping scotch for 10 hours and saying nothing
Even if you want to be pedantic about it and say he became a yearly MVP candidate in 2007 (hey, he got votes in 2005, too), that's still a lot more than "the back half of his career". More like 70%.
Ha! It's funny because I don't think I'm the one being pedantic here. Yes, I almost said 2/3rds because it all changed after his 2007-08 performance, but I liked the phrase and didn't expect anyone to nitpick
I'm not sure why we're arguing. I'm not trying to denigrate Tom here at all. He was a very good quarterback from the moment he took over. But if you think he was the same player with the same reputation for his skills throughout their championship run, let's just agree to disagree.
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For me the easiest (and certainly not comprehensive) way to explain how I feel about the Dynasty is that Bill was clearly responsible for building the foundation and culture.
For the first three Super Bowls it was that foundation, which included a young Brady and some of the best defenses I've ever seen, that is most responsible for that success. In those days, Manning was anointed as the future GOAT. Brady wasn't Brady yet. But he was perfect for the team. They don't win all 3 without him, I think.
The last three Super Bowl wins could never have happened without Tom Brady. At that point he had evolved into the best QB in the game, and was asked to carry a heavy, heavy load. And he delivered. But still, it was Belichick who saw something and sent Butler in to save the day, so they don't win 3 in that span without Bill either.
Anyway, I came in here to thank Belichick, so thanks Bill!
Any efforts to do anything but spread the credit around would piss you off, because as you know, it's a fool's errand.
Pro sports is so often just rootin' for the laundry, but if you're lucky, and they're good, team ownership and management can extend the laundry lifespan into an ethos that makes that team worthy of your love. It's not just about making money (which they do). It's not just about the adulation (which they get). It's about Doing Their Jobs, and sometimes, being rewarded for it with singular achievements that are unlikely to be repeated.
Bill Belichick made me give a shit about team defense. He made me look at what a pulling guard does to spring a back coming across the formation. He made me use the phrase "bubble screen" without giggling. He'll make me appreciate (or disdain) the efforts of future Pats coaching and management for years to come. Yes, he failed at his own rules, and did not Do His Job on the offensive side of the ball, and that caused the team to spiral and fail.
Maybe he'll do more and better elsewhere. Maybe Mayo will be the perfect ex-player coach and will exemplify a new ethos and more championships. But we don't need more maybes. We can look at 6 championships, 9 conference titles, 17 division titles, and marvel that we got to be here for it. Thank you Coach Belichick.
Bill Belichick made me give a shit about team defense. He made me look at what a pulling guard does to spring a back coming across the formation. He made me use the phrase "bubble screen" without giggling. He'll make me appreciate (or disdain) the efforts of future Pats coaching and management for years to come. Yes, he failed at his own rules, and did not Do His Job on the offensive side of the ball, and that caused the team to spiral and fail.
Maybe he'll do more and better elsewhere. Maybe Mayo will be the perfect ex-player coach and will exemplify a new ethos and more championships. But we don't need more maybes. We can look at 6 championships, 9 conference titles, 17 division titles, and marvel that we got to be here for it. Thank you Coach Belichick.
Twenty+ years of excellence. Twenty. Years. Mind boggling. Incomparable.
Too many incredible moments.
The Greatest NFL coach of all-time.
A suggestion that I think exists already in a long ago thread: not only was BB the best to do it, but I personally learned so much about how to coach/lead people from his time in NE. What are some lessons that we’ve learned from him over the years?
My biggest was evaluating players’ strengths then asking them to just do that. Don’t try to force a great run-stopper to cover an RB out of the backfield. What do they do well? Give them the freedom to be awesome at their one thing. If you do that and everybody does their own job without thinking about having to be a hero and covering for someone else’s weaknesses, you can squeeze every ounce of talent from a seemingly talentless player.
My biggest was evaluating players’ strengths then asking them to just do that. Don’t try to force a great run-stopper to cover an RB out of the backfield. What do they do well? Give them the freedom to be awesome at their one thing. If you do that and everybody does their own job without thinking about having to be a hero and covering for someone else’s weaknesses, you can squeeze every ounce of talent from a seemingly talentless player.
From 2001-2019...
- 19 seasons
- #1 offenses (points): 3
- #1 offenses (yards): 3
- Top 5 offenses (points): 11
- Top 5 offenses (yards): 8
- Top 10 offenses (points): 18
- Top 10 offenses (yards): 13
- #1 defenses (points): 2
- #1 defenses (yards): 0
- Top 5 defenses (points): 10
- Top 5 defenses (yards): 2
- Top 10 defenses (points): 16
- Top 10 defenses (yards): 8
Not only did Belichick consistently win over these 19 seasons, he consistently built elite teams - powerhouse offenses and dominating defenses. Over an almost unfathomable length of time. Tom Brady was obviously the most important single player in all this (by miles) but you cannot build this dynasty like this without putting together teams - this is a way, way bigger project than just relying on one player - even if it's the greatest player of all time.
- 19 seasons
- #1 offenses (points): 3
- #1 offenses (yards): 3
- Top 5 offenses (points): 11
- Top 5 offenses (yards): 8
- Top 10 offenses (points): 18
- Top 10 offenses (yards): 13
- #1 defenses (points): 2
- #1 defenses (yards): 0
- Top 5 defenses (points): 10
- Top 5 defenses (yards): 2
- Top 10 defenses (points): 16
- Top 10 defenses (yards): 8
Not only did Belichick consistently win over these 19 seasons, he consistently built elite teams - powerhouse offenses and dominating defenses. Over an almost unfathomable length of time. Tom Brady was obviously the most important single player in all this (by miles) but you cannot build this dynasty like this without putting together teams - this is a way, way bigger project than just relying on one player - even if it's the greatest player of all time.
Planning for the future (eg drafting Solder one year prior to Light retiring). Letting go of aging players one year early vs one year late (eg Seymour trade). Doing whatever was best for
the team - t-e-a-m.
He was the coach through 7 presidential terms.
View: https://twitter.com/Steve_Perrault/status/1745868921482137907?s=20
Nomar was still 4 years away from being traded. I believe that's Jurassic Carl up to bat.
View: https://twitter.com/Steve_Perrault/status/1745868921482137907?s=20
Nomar was still 4 years away from being traded. I believe that's Jurassic Carl up to bat.
2000 - Barack Obama was in a losing congressional race against Bobby Rush.
Who? And who?
Exactly.
Who? And who?
Exactly.
I mean, I love the guy and all that he's done over the past 24 years, but it's not like he ever reads Horny Sam's Sons, so why give him a shout out here.
Old friend Chandler Jones wrote a song to help you all through these difficult times.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nflcirclejerk/s/o9JbaegXO6
https://www.reddit.com/r/nflcirclejerk/s/o9JbaegXO6
I was holding my sleeping daughter when I read this, and it was among the hardest times I’ve ever had stifling a laugh. I imagine it’s how Hooper felt in the opening of Chasing Amy when Jason Lee asked “What’s a Nubian?”
I'm a little stoned, browsing the Internet, and I see this again..it's still so fucking surreal.
