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Way long gone. But keep your eyes online for Target and Walmart. They are really the only large retailers that are selling at MSRP. Your local shop will have a lot more inventory but there’s a markup.
If they really aren’t looking for inserts, you might be better off just buying base sets? A lot of the card pricing is based on the lotto aspect of getting “hits”. I have bought my kids Topps Opening Day baseball packs because they are cheap and they just like to look at the pictures.
And I will say Hockey is far more likely to be in stock these days at Target (or at least down here that is the case).
Upper Deck hockey is everywhere. But it's a 700 card set so that's perhaps why. I don't remember if it's $5 or $10, but it's a 50 card pack
Donruss football is 50 cards too, I believe that $15 but you get inserts. Got a J Chase press proof in mine!
If you get them one of each, t4p, that's not bad. I'd be happy if I was a kid. (or an adult!)
Donruss football is 50 cards too, I believe that $15 but you get inserts. Got a J Chase press proof in mine!
If you get them one of each, t4p, that's not bad. I'd be happy if I was a kid. (or an adult!)
To the experts, am I likely to get something like this by xmas if it's a presell that releases on the 15th of December?
https://www.dacardworld.com/sports-cards/2021-22-upper-deck-mvp-hockey-24-pack-box
https://www.dacardworld.com/sports-cards/2021-22-upper-deck-mvp-hockey-24-pack-box
I'm not an expert, but the good places ship same day with arrivals within a couple days, so you should be good.
I’ll preface this by saying that the pandemic pandemonium caused me to leave the hobby for the most part, so I’m not sure if a post Covid world has changed things, but…
If I was pre-ordering from Dave and Adams my expectation would be to get it on release date, or if they didn’t have it early to send, worst case, by that weekend.
Both Dave and Adams and Blowout should get you your product right on release date typically, or a day later in my experiences
Anyone collect Allen and Ginter or other tobacco-card shape/size cards? Where's a fair price to get supplies (sheets and top loaders) for that size?
Working on cleaning out my mom's basement, I came across three binders with Red Sox team sets. They're mostly from the 80's and early 90's across all manufacturers- Topps, Donruss, Bowman, Fleer, Score. The pages have yellowed but the cards seem to be fine. Of course, I opened the thing to a shot of Jerry Remy... Gut punch.
I have no idea what the value of these things is anymore. Nothing is graded, of course. I can't talk about completeness. I think we pulled the Clemens rookie cards from these binders, but I actually do have them in a separate box and can replace them.
What's my best path for finding a buyer that can appreciate this? I find that it's from a time in my life not filled with happy memories, so even though the cards and the teams are near and dear it's not filling me with warmth and nostalgia.
I have no idea what the value of these things is anymore. Nothing is graded, of course. I can't talk about completeness. I think we pulled the Clemens rookie cards from these binders, but I actually do have them in a separate box and can replace them.
What's my best path for finding a buyer that can appreciate this? I find that it's from a time in my life not filled with happy memories, so even though the cards and the teams are near and dear it's not filling me with warmth and nostalgia.
I've been out of the game for a while, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find anything of much value as those years were massively over produced. Just search on ebay for some of the bigger names...or name. Clemens 85 topps/donruss/fleer run about 10 bucks. I suppose the 84 Fleer Update would be the prize of the pack, but that was a tough one back in the day.
I have the ‘84 Fleer Update. I’m more interested in getting these to somebody that can appreciate them.
I've got a metric ton of upper deck from late 80s/early 90's. Theres really only a few cards out of those years that are worth anything. Unless its signed and in mint condition, you really have just a ton of kindling. There are some nice cards out of that '84 set that you could toss on ebay. Getting anything authenticated these days takes months to a year.
Speaking of the ‘84 Fleer update - that remains one of my best buys of my life. I bought that and the ‘84 USFL set for like $10 new from some vendor in California from an ad in Sports Collectors Digest or something. I got the Clemens and Puckett graded around 15 years ago and unfortunately they came back as 8’s. But still love both sets.
Ill buy that puckett off you. no joke. PM me your price. My wife is a huge twins fan.
I'm hearing some anecdotes how the graded card market is getting flooded after everyone is finally getting back their submissions from the grading agencies from the height of the stay at home time (for the non-premium cards, how everyone was sending everything). Tulips and all that.
Been seeing that too combined with the massive print runs. Honestly may not be a bad time to grab some good names from the glut if one is so inclined
Unrelated, I finally had what some would consider a nice hit - Ohtani SSP from this years Topp’s Update, the little thrill of pull of snagging that out of a pack brought me back.
To close the loop, the open cards sold for $6 or something like that on eBay, and the closed box was listed two weeks ago at $25, no bites, so lowered to $22 this week, and got three late bids and sold for $29. Very pleased with that.
What would be some good Zach Wilson cards to buy. Autos seem very expensive on the bay still. Let’s say I wanted to spend ~150
Guess it depends what you are buying it for. If it's an investment, I'd probably be looking at something from Panini Select, probably a silver refractor/prizm (not numbered, but it's a short print and currently selling for $200-$225).
If you want to get an auto, with a jersey patch, you can do ok with Panini Black. Here's one that recently sold for $172.50. It's numbered to /99. Some folks don't like sticker autos (the players autograph a bunch of pieces of tape, and those are affixed to the card, as opposed to them signing on the card, but on-card autos are going to be significantly more expensive products). If Wilson has a good career, it'll go up in value, but not like the Panini Select short prints/numbered cards. A non-auto, Panini Select gold version (only 10 made) recently sold for over $5,000.00.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/384432116177?hash=item5981f091d1:g:mWAAAOSwfOJhV5Jy&nma=true&si=gAXBMwfA2dWOHTV4J6fK9VrIvI8%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Bought a hobby of Bowman Draft. Paid to much, but I'm enamoured by Marcelo Mayer so, yeah.
Will report when I open it.
Will report when I open it.
I read this earlier but forgot to say thanks for the info. 5000 is a lot. Might get one of the others.
Fanatics buying Topps per Sports Collectors Daily’s FB.
Fanatics is buying Topps, according to reports by the Wall Street Journal, CNBC, Sportico and The Athletic. Deal to be announced Tuesday. It will give Fanatics the ability to begin producing baseball cards immediately.
Fanatics is buying Topps, according to reports by the Wall Street Journal, CNBC, Sportico and The Athletic. Deal to be announced Tuesday. It will give Fanatics the ability to begin producing baseball cards immediately.
I’m not so sure. Would assume that Topps will keep doing what it’s doing and just be owned by Fanatics, no?
Yeah, I'd think that the Topps brand is far too valuable to just bury. I see this as positive news.
I kinda figured that was part of the plan. The Topps brand has major value to Fanatics and Fanatics owning those licenses with league/players association rights is a great combination. I think this is good news
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It’s good news for the perseverance of the Topps brands.
not that you’ll ever see me (or anyone) feeling sorry for Michael Eisner, but he and his ownership group getting 500M is a far cry from the 1B they were just weeks away from securing for the company lost the MLBPA contracts. IIRC, they originally invested close to 400M to buy Topps 7-8 years ago and made investments in the business on top of that, so while a 500M return ain’t nothing, they may have done better just investing in the S&P 500.
not that you’ll ever see me (or anyone) feeling sorry for Michael Eisner, but he and his ownership group getting 500M is a far cry from the 1B they were just weeks away from securing for the company lost the MLBPA contracts. IIRC, they originally invested close to 400M to buy Topps 7-8 years ago and made investments in the business on top of that, so while a 500M return ain’t nothing, they may have done better just investing in the S&P 500.
I'm genuinely surprised they got 500M given the loss of the MLBPA/MLB contracts - a lot of it must be just jump starting their production and basically buying the ability to start asap as opposed to when the contracts shift over. I do wonder what Fanatics plan is for NBA and NFL - are they going to try and buy Panini which has some good brands (Prizm, Select, Nat Treasures) but not nearly the legacy/value of Topps, are they going to try and snag another existing producer (UD, Leaf?), or just roll their NBA and NFL rights into Topps when they're able to?
I'm not really excited about what I expect Fanatics to do with cards in general but I am glad they have Topps to do it with, if only for some level of QC and existing brands/sets.
I'm not really excited about what I expect Fanatics to do with cards in general but I am glad they have Topps to do it with, if only for some level of QC and existing brands/sets.
I'm saying they don't bother with Panini. Topps should have the capacity to do everything, as they used to do all 4 major sports at one point.
I wonder if Fanatics took a run at buying Upper Deck as well and Topps was the better deal. Upper Deck doesn't have the longevity of Topps but also has a good reputation. Then they would have added hockey.
Selfishly, in some ways I wish it wasn't Topps since I think their art/styles are generally the least inspired. Panini has a lot of fun inserts and parallels where Topps tends to lean on "DIFFERENT COLOR GUYS", - there's no Topps equivalent to Kabooms or Color Blasts which are just gorgeous cards, and the higher end cards (like One and One or Nat Treasures) just tend to look better than Topps' versions. Upper Deck is just a much better looking card on all fronts - I get jealous I'm not a hockey person every time I see UD's cards as it's a classic, well defined style. I still miss the days of SP Authentic in the 90s for baseball and even their base cards look great. But Topps has the definitive brands so not losing things like Chrome, Stadium Club, A&G, etc. is a really good thing.
I think Panini is starting to dominate, personally. In the high end market, National Treasures is second to none, in basically every sport except hockey. Their RPA's are the ones to get in basketball and football, and while they don't have licenses for MLB, their MLB products do insanely well. Their super premium stuff, like Flawless, is also crazy. Basketball is easily the fastest growing card market, because of Asia, and Panini Prizm, Panini Select, One and One, etc. are all massive. Then they have origins, illusions, chronicles, flux, and on and on and on...
Topps without MLB is a dying brand, IMO. Bowman Chrome is still the card to get for rookie baseball (particularly, the 1st Bowmans from Draft ie. Marcelo Mayer's first cards just hit, but the autos are currently redemptions, which drives me crazy), but Bowman Chrome, Sterling, Stadium Club, etc. are all tailored towards hard core investors/collectors and IMO, aren't getting the reach into the mass markets that they need to compete with Panini.
You are right though, the actual product that UD puts out shits on both of them.
Well, the Dave and Adams stuff showed up on 1/5, about 3 weeks after release. No big deal. Gave us something to do an a rainy day. Pulled a Mac Jones portrait rated rookie out of the Donruss hanger box, so worth the wait!
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I enjoy those throwback Topps, bought several of them this summer from the ones mirroring '54, '55, and '59.
I've been peeking in at a few older cards but haven't pulled the trigger on anything in a while.
I've been peeking in at a few older cards but haven't pulled the trigger on anything in a while.
Going to look up the value of my 1968 sets, planning to unload them. Already sold some stuff (mostly autographs) at Sportsworld, but they really want old cards.
What is the best place to get realistic values?
What is the best place to get realistic values?
130point.com is a good resource- you can look up any cards and see what they’ve sold for on eBay
Have picked up a few Mayer's in the Bowman draft including a purple numbered 13/99. If he were to wear 13 in the majors, that jacks the price.
So clearly the Mayer insanity has begun. I am poking around on Ebay for his Draft and Bowman's Best offerings and a shop is doing a 10-Case player break of Draft--7 Jumbo and 3 Super Jumbo. So it's like a pool of more than 32,000 cards a 250 autographs.
Now, bidding is far from over, as it goes until Sunday, but the Henry Davis lot is currently $86, while the Mayer lot is currently $1125.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/165296046445?hash=item267c69816d:g:nkIAAOSwRiBhzAdJ
Now, bidding is far from over, as it goes until Sunday, but the Henry Davis lot is currently $86, while the Mayer lot is currently $1125.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/165296046445?hash=item267c69816d:g:nkIAAOSwRiBhzAdJ
Neither of those prices are even close to what they should go for.
Mayer's base auto (non numbered) from Bowman is going for $400+. In a 10 case break like that, you should expect to see at least 2-3, and maybe a lot more. His gold auto's (numbered to /50) are going for 5k plus. His autos to /150 are selling for 2k, etc.
Davis' golds are going for over 2k, his auto's numbered to /499 are going for $400+. Anything under 2k for Davis, and around 3k for Mayer would be good buys if you ask me.
Aren’t a lot of these cards going to be worth nothing in the not too distant future? I mean I find this all fascinating and I’ve been sucked into buying a bunch of product too but I don’t see how the values on a lot of these guys is anywhere close to sustainable…everything is being priced as if these guys are all going to the HOF.