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We've placed LB Brandon Spikes on season-ending injured reserve with a knee injury: http://bit.ly/1kmC5Ym
Well that just sucks.
New England Patriots @Patriots4m
We've placed LB Brandon Spikes on season-ending injured reserve with a knee injury: http://bit.ly/1kmC5Ym
Mystic Merlin said:He's been laboring out there for some time, and aggravated the knee further against Buffalo, so I can't say this took me completely by surprise.
Ed Hillel said:Belichick's 2013 opus will end on 4th and goal with Julian Edelman stuffing Marshawn Lynch up the middle.
Ed Hillel said:Belichick's 2013 opus will end on 4th and goal with Julian Edelman stuffing Marshawn Lynch up the middle.
LOL, it's just like the T.J. Ward hit on Gronk!Hambone said:
Courtesy of Sox Scout in the 2011 game thread
Stitch01 said:Also really crushes depth at LB, we're one injury away from some real Eric Alexander plays the AFCCG type scenarios
Super Nomario said:LOL, it's just like the T.J. Ward hit on Gronk!
I am convinced that had they played the first game Saturday or the second Sunday, the other half would have gone down.BigSoxFan said:Updated IR list of starters:
Wilfork
Kelly
Mayo
Spikes
Wilson
Gronk
Vollmer
Almost half of the starting defense is now out. Ouch.
Fair enough. But BB recently riffed on this at some length, and his remarks received national coverage. And he plainly was motivated by his own situation -- cause he doesn't care much about anyone else's situation.Stitch01 said:Hard to see how Gronk, Vollmer, Mayo, and probably Wilfork avoid injury under any training regime and Wilson wasn't going to start anyways. I'm sure they'll examine it, but hard to see how shit luck isn't the driving cause for the guys gone for the year.
Ja'Gared Davis is most likely asFL4WL3SS said:Who takes his spot on the roster? Any guesses?
dcmissle said:Ray Lewis, just to fuck with Pagano
Or Woodhead in New EnglandVan Everyman said:Assuming we beat the Colts, it's entirely possible Knowshon runs for 400 yards against us in Denver.
Running back, 8th stride. Not exactly defenseless.Super Nomario said:LOL, it's just like the T.J. Ward hit on Gronk!
TheoShmeo said:Borges with a "Spikes as admirable tough guy" column this morning. For Borges, it was actually not that bad. For Borges.
Many Pats fans seem to be reacting that it's no big loss because the Colts are not a running team (and neither are the Donkeys).
But so what? Even if that was true -- and the Donkeys sure looked like a running team the last time the Pats played them -- it's also true that every team runs the ball to some degree. With the DLine as altered as it is, losing Spikes is a huge kick in the balls against the run.
Serious question: Has any team suffered more injuries to core guys than the Pats? That may be a Pats colored question. But I think the answer is no. Please enlighten me if I am wrong.
Mystic Merlin said:Woodson was knocked out during the Super Bowl, and Driver didn't miss a game in 2010. And he was far from their 'best receiver'. Jennings and, arguably, Nelson and Jones were better players at that point.
You're otherwise dead-on about the amount of injuries they withstood. I believe they lost the most man-games of any Super Bowl champion (perhaps the runner-ups as well).
I think the big dogs they lost were Nick Barnett, Ryan Grant, and Jermichael Finley. Morgan Burnett and Brady Poppinga were other notable casualties.
TheoShmeo said:Borges with a "Spikes as admirable tough guy" column this morning. For Borges, it was actually not that bad. For Borges.
Many Pats fans seem to be reacting that it's no big loss because the Colts are not a running team (and neither are the Donkeys).
But so what? Even if that was true -- and the Donkeys sure looked like a running team the last time the Pats played them -- it's also true that every team runs the ball to some degree. With the DLine as altered as it is, losing Spikes is a huge kick in the balls against the run.
Serious question: Has any team suffered more injuries to core guys than the Pats? That may be a Pats colored question. But I think the answer is no. Please enlighten me if I am wrong.
I think Siliga's emergence softens the blow quite a bit. He's been much more effective in the "true NT" role than Vellano or Chris Jones or even Sopoaga. PFF grades back this up: he's at +7.2, which is outstanding for only playing 221 snaps. And it's had a ripple effect through the run D - Hightower has looked much better with Siliga soaking up blockers in front of him. I think this would be much more damaging six weeks ago.TheoShmeo said:Many Pats fans seem to be reacting that it's no big loss because the Colts are not a running team (and neither are the Donkeys).
But so what? Even if that was true -- and the Donkeys sure looked like a running team the last time the Pats played them -- it's also true that every team runs the ball to some degree. With the DLine as altered as it is, losing Spikes is a huge kick in the balls against the run.
The other issue with Spikes is although he played through the knee injury, he was not right and came out of the Buffalo game because of the injury. Either his injury is getting worse or the Pats looked at his tape and thought they needed to make a change because he was not blowing up blockers like he normally does. Siliga has played great the last few games at NT and really improved the Pats against the run.Shelterdog said:
I disagree--it's a kick in the balls but not a huge one. They're going to play nickel most of the game, so now it's Hightower+Collins or Fletcher rather than Spikes or Hightower + Collins or Fletcher. I like spikes but in passing-oriented game when you have Hightower you should be able to get by without much of a drop-off.
I've always thought that they picked Hightower with the idea that he'd ultimately take Spikes' job so this just accelerates that a little.
Right and my imprecisely written point was not intended to compare the Pats to NFL teams of all time.dcmissle said:
When the Packers won the Super Bowl three years ago, they had 15 guys on IR, including one of their best defensive players, Woodson, and best receiver, Driver. It was a remarkable accomplishment.
Still, this is a damn shame.
Patriots promoted LB Ja'Gared Davis from the practice squad.
Davis gets the call one day after MLB Brandon Spikes (knee) was placed on injured reserve. Dane Fletcher is expected to fill in at middle linebacker, though he won't be an every-down player.
TheoShmeo said:Right and my imprecisely written point was not intended to compare the Pats to NFL teams of all time.
It was more to other teams in the NFL in this season. Every team suffers serious injuries, of course. But has any team lost so many critical players in 2013?
I think most people would put Gronk and Vince in the Pats top 5 most important contributors and certainly the top 10 if not the top 5. And Mayo is probably top 10 for most people and certainly the top 15 if not not the top 10. Vollmer is pretty far up there, too. However you rank these guys exactly -- and it's hard to compare positions -- I'm hard put to find many teams that have lost so many upper tier guys.
In Pats history, this reminds me a little of 1990 when they lost three key defensive starters in the last exhibition game.
Oh, and the subject of this thread, Spikes, isn't one of those critical, top tier guys. His injury just puts a fine point on how many important players they are missing.
All hail Tom and Bill and depth.
Prior to this game, KC was super-healthy this year.dcmissle said:
The only team that I think would have been in the same area code -- after Saturday's machine gun slaying -- was KC, but of course they did not advance.