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One of my NY resolutions was to play 10 new courses this year, so always up for an outing if someone is looking for a 4th
 
I've been playing a *lot* of GOLF+ on my Quest 2 (virtual reality headset) over the past few weeks, using a heavy controller attachment with a real golf grip and the weight of a real club. And although I haven't gotten out on a real course yet this year - and probably won't until it gets much warmer - I really feel like the principles this game is making me employ in terms of body rotation and weight transfer, etc., are going to help my real swing outdoors. Might even help my putting stroke somewhat as well...I'm excited to find out in due course!
 

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Been going to the sim one a week, 2 hours a session with my playing partner.

always grinding but swing feels good. Can’t carry it 301 with 172 ball like @Gunca

We’re at our private club for another year. Dues went up a little bit but not enough to sway me to leave. It also includes a $750 Food credit to use at the club restaurant which is a 2 miles from my house and excellent.
 

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I've been to the sims once this winter. To this point, my adjustments from the end of last year have carried through (swing thought = "Kenny Perry"). I've been working indoors with a coat hanger for my short game - trying to get the flips out. Does anyone have any other winter drills that they use?
 

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I've been playing a *lot* of GOLF+ on my Quest 2 (virtual reality headset) over the past few weeks, using a heavy controller attachment with a real golf grip and the weight of a real club. And although I haven't gotten out on a real course yet this year - and probably won't until it gets much warmer - I really feel like the principles this game is making me employ in terms of body rotation and weight transfer, etc., are going to help my real swing outdoors. Might even help my putting stroke somewhat as well...I'm excited to find out in due course!
I know nothing about this stuff but this sounds cool. Can you say which controller attachment with real golf grip you're using? And are you playing Top Golf or something else?
 

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Also, I played El Camaleon in Mayakoba three times over the week between Christmas and New Year and it was great. I didn't score well (99, 98 & 96) but had some good moments. Finished the season as a 19.9 handicap, which I know stinks, but started as a 28 and hit my goal of being in the teens. My goal for this season is to finish with a 12.9 or better. I think that's a bit aggressive but with some more lessons you never know.
 

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If any of you are in/near Danbury CT my cousin is the manager for the new Golf Lounge 18 that just opened up. Let me know if you're heading over, might be able to hook you up with a free round or something.
 

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Anyone have good tips for getting precise distances on your clubs throughout your bag? Currently, all mine are fudgy and it really screws me on the course sometimes. The range isn't super helpful because of the inconsistency of the balls (and the ones I go to in LA are either uphill, downhill or into nets). I can't go to a store with my current clubs and hit into a sim. I guess I could go to a Golftec, but seems crazy to pay $125 for the pleasure. How do the folks in this thread get dialed into their distances?
 

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Anyone have good tips for getting precise distances on your clubs throughout your bag? Currently, all mine are fudgy and it really screws me on the course sometimes. The range isn't super helpful because of the inconsistency of the balls (and the ones I go to in LA are either uphill, downhill or into nets). I can't go to a store with my current clubs and hit into a sim. I guess I could go to a Golftec, but seems crazy to pay $125 for the pleasure. How do the folks in this thread get dialed into their distances?
May not be feasible in LA, but I like to go out solo nearing twilight/ down times. If I have 1+ holes open behind me I'll just drop some balls at various yardages (this is how 75 yds should feel. This is 140, etc.) The extra benefit to that is it also allows some practice off of uneven lies, which is really hard to do at the range.
 

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Anyone have good tips for getting precise distances on your clubs throughout your bag? Currently, all mine are fudgy and it really screws me on the course sometimes. The range isn't super helpful because of the inconsistency of the balls (and the ones I go to in LA are either uphill, downhill or into nets). I can't go to a store with my current clubs and hit into a sim. I guess I could go to a Golftec, but seems crazy to pay $125 for the pleasure. How do the folks in this thread get dialed into their distances?
I have a simulator membership. I know some folks who have mini launch monitors. The new Garmin one is apparently quite good for $600 - https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/695391
 

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Anyone have good tips for getting precise distances on your clubs throughout your bag? Currently, all mine are fudgy and it really screws me on the course sometimes. The range isn't super helpful because of the inconsistency of the balls (and the ones I go to in LA are either uphill, downhill or into nets). I can't go to a store with my current clubs and hit into a sim. I guess I could go to a Golftec, but seems crazy to pay $125 for the pleasure. How do the folks in this thread get dialed into their distances?
#1 would be just paying for the Golftec or some other indoor monitor. What you're almost guaranteed to find is your specs aren't right on and your gaps aren't right. Its very rare anything you buy that isn't fitted by an actual club maker is spot on to spec.

So just for example, rough ballpark is a degree of loft is about 3 yards of distance (not top to bottom of the bag but overall). So if you are supposed to have the following:

7I - 30*
8I - 34*
9I - 38*

So roughly 12 yard gaps which is about right.

Now assume the 8I is 1 strong and the 9I is 1 weak - you're now talking about a 9 yard gap and a 15 yard gap which you really don't want.

I feel like most cities have sims now if you look - key is the carry number and not the roll out - while the roll out with irons matters, you can get caught up pretty quickly in math calcs instead of actual on course play - you want to know how far the ball travels in the air, and then adapt from there depending on your ball flight, spin, etc.
 

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Thanks for all these suggestions - good stuff. Hadn't thought about getting my clubs checked because they're not power lofted, but good point that they may not be up to spec.
 

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#1 would be just paying for the Golftec or some other indoor monitor. What you're almost guaranteed to find is your specs aren't right on and your gaps aren't right. Its very rare anything you buy that isn't fitted by an actual club maker is spot on to spec.

So just for example, rough ballpark is a degree of loft is about 3 yards of distance (not top to bottom of the bag but overall). So if you are supposed to have the following:

7I - 30*
8I - 34*
9I - 38*

So roughly 12 yard gaps which is about right.

Now assume the 8I is 1 strong and the 9I is 1 weak - you're now talking about a 9 yard gap and a 15 yard gap which you really don't want.

I feel like most cities have sims now if you look - key is the carry number and not the roll out - while the roll out with irons matters, you can get caught up pretty quickly in math calcs instead of actual on course play - you want to know how far the ball travels in the air, and then adapt from there depending on your ball flight, spin, etc.
I have Callaway X22's. They are maybe 10 years old, but I don't play much (maybe 6-10 rounds per year) so they are in very good shape.
I feel as though from 4i to 9i, they are pretty consistent 10 yard breaks. But then 9i to PW and PW to AW are both 15 yard breaks. So it looks like this:
8i - 150
9i - 140
PW - 125
AW - 110

Any thoughts on if this is typical and/or anything I can do to help mitigate those 15 yards gaps?
 

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If you only play 6-10 times a year, I'd probably not worry too much about it. Realistically you'd like to go 150-137-124-111 or so with that set of yardages - is 3 yards on the 9 and 1 yard on the P and A worth it? Probably not when all is said and done. I'd be more concerned if you were all over the place through the bag.
 

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I've been playing a *lot* of GOLF+ on my Quest 2 (virtual reality headset) over the past few weeks, using a heavy controller attachment with a real golf grip and the weight of a real club. And although I haven't gotten out on a real course yet this year - and probably won't until it gets much warmer - I really feel like the principles this game is making me employ in terms of body rotation and weight transfer, etc., are going to help my real swing outdoors. Might even help my putting stroke somewhat as well...I'm excited to find out in due course!
I just got a Quest 2 and was wondering if the above still holds before I spend $30 on the game and $50 on an attachment. The mini-golf game at a minimum sounds like a cool entryway into it.
 
I just got a Quest 2 and was wondering if the above still holds before I spend $30 on the game and $50 on an attachment. The mini-golf game at a minimum sounds like a cool entryway into it.
Yes, absolutely. Although you should buy and try the game before shelling out on an attachment - you can return it and get your money back if you don't like the look of it (and haven't played it more than a couple of hours in the first two weeks after you've purchased it, I think).
 

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I didn't want to post this in the PGA thread but I've played TPC sawgrass (players) twice and for those who are watching, what I'd say is it's a very nice resort course. If you play the proper tees it's a very playable course through 16 holes. Some hard ones, but ultimately fairly wide and there's usually a bail out spot around the greens so if you don't like a look at the green you can make bogey easily.

17, tv just doesn't do justice to how small that green is. It plays 125 ish for the amateurs but it's just tiny, and if you play to the middle everything seems to funnel away from where you're going. It's as intimidating a wedge as you'll ever hit, even if you take away the fact it's 17th at players.

18 is a bitch off the tee. Wind seems to pull everything back at the water, there's no bail out right really, and it's really hard to figure out the right line if you play a draw, which I do. If you play a cut you have a little bit more error but you still have prevailing wind fighting you. The approach is tough unless you really kill a drive, and the tee box the pros play from is a tough angle to land it in a great place. Again tv actually makes it look way easier than it is.

Just thought that might be interesting to you all, glad to discuss anything else you might see on TV.
 

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We had some unseasonably nice weather last weekend here in western Pennsylvania, so I was able to get two round in last weekend and I hit my second hole in one. It was a 165 yards with a back left pin, and I'll admit it wasn't a great shot. I left it out to the right a bit and it took a big kick left off some adulation and trickled down into the hole. The green is somewhat blind accept for the very front, so I didn't actually see it go in. When we got to the green I was checking to the right and just off because that is where it was heading, and my buddy saw it in the cup. Ironically my first hole in one years ago was very similar, I was at a different course but it also was somewhat of a blind green and I didn't realize it was in the cup until I found it. The greens are really soft and spongy this time of year, usually you don't get much if any release at all, but the shot was a tick thin as well and I lucked out.
 
17, tv just doesn't do justice to how small that green is. It plays 125 ish for the amateurs but it's just tiny, and if you play to the middle everything seems to funnel away from where you're going. It's as intimidating a wedge as you'll ever hit, even if you take away the fact it's 17th at players.
This is very interesting - a long time ago, my parents owned a condo in the Players Club Villas, a couple hundred yards away from the 10th green on the Stadium course (on the other side of a pond and trees, so you couldn't access it directly). We had an associate membership at TPC Sawgrass, which meant we still had to pay per round but got a significant discount...anyway, I played the Stadium course maybe 8 or 10 times as a teenager, and my impression was always that the green was actually much *larger* than it looks on TV, and that if that green was surrounded by bunkers and rough instead of water, it would be an incredibly easy hole. It's only the mental challenge of having nowhere to bail out that really makes it tough...but that mental challenge is so daunting, which is what makes it a pretty magical hole.

(I don't remember every shot I hit on that hole, but I do know that while I did hit several balls in the water, I also distinctly recall the time the pin was back right in its Sunday tournament location and I went straight at the pin and found the correct section of the green. I missed my 10-footer for birdie, but that was one of the best shots of my childhood!)
 

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Congrats on the Hole in One!

I played TPC about 10 years ago on a guys golf trip. We were having a great time, and had hit the bloody Mary’s pretty hard by the time we reached 17. I managed to hit the green from the 125 yd tee, a bit on the left side of it, with pin tucked in right corner behind the bunker. Once it hit dry land, we starting celebrating, and thus did not initially see the ball trickle downhill and left. The ball somehow stopped in the thin fringe area.

I had about a 45-50 footer, over a small ridge, with a pond on the other side. Easily could have putted it into the water. I Managed to hit first putt to about 3-4 feet, and missed the par putt as it 360’d around the hole. So sad.
I’d agree the greens were a bit bigger than they seemed like on TV.
 

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Maybe its just me then about the green, it felt tiny to me, but maybe it was my own depth perception. My playing partners shared my feelings and perhaps you guys also are a little bit better players than I.
 

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Maybe its just me then about the green, it felt tiny to me, but maybe it was my own depth perception. My playing partners shared my feelings and perhaps you guys also are a little bit better players than I.
CP certainly would have a chance to be a better player. Me...little chance. Lol. I hit a lot of bad shots throughout the rest of the round. And since then. And before then, too.
 

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This is very interesting - a long time ago, my parents owned a condo in the Players Club Villas, a couple hundred yards away from the 10th green on the Stadium course (on the other side of a pond and trees, so you couldn't access it directly). We had an associate membership at TPC Sawgrass, which meant we still had to pay per round but got a significant discount...anyway, I played the Stadium course maybe 8 or 10 times as a teenager, and my impression was always that the green was actually much *larger* than it looks on TV, and that if that green was surrounded by bunkers and rough instead of water, it would be an incredibly easy hole. It's only the mental challenge of having nowhere to bail out that really makes it tough...but that mental challenge is so daunting, which is what makes it a pretty magical hole.

(I don't remember every shot I hit on that hole, but I do know that while I did hit several balls in the water, I also distinctly recall the time the pin was back right in its Sunday tournament location and I went straight at the pin and found the correct section of the green. I missed my 10-footer for birdie, but that was one of the best shots of my childhood!)
I play Stadium a lot and to me, it's a relief to get to 17 (without a lot of wind). Every hole on that course is such a grind that makes you hit the ball left and right off the tee and not miss to either side, It's one of those courses where the more you know repercussions of missing to certain spots, the harder it gets to play. 17 is the only straightforward hole on the course. Hit the green from 137, make a par. Miss it, make a double bogey. The biggest challenge is the usually very long wait before you get to tee off.
 

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Does anyone have a Garmin g10 of Bushnell Phantom 2 GPS? Any thoughts on either?

I've been thinking about picking one or the other up so I can clip it to my bag and don't need to constantly pull my phone out for yardages.
 

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Does anyone have a Garmin g10 of Bushnell Phantom 2 GPS? Any thoughts on either?

I've been thinking about picking one or the other up so I can clip it to my bag and don't need to constantly pull my phone out for yardages.
I've been using a Garmin watch for many years, it that helps. I don't know how people golf without them. The problem with clip on ones is if you take a cart and it's paths only, you'll get no numbers. I prefer it attached to me.

In general though, anything Garmin is going to be very solid for GPS data.
 

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Along the same lines, I recently got an apple watch. Any recommendations for apps? I use The Grint on my phone but curious if anything else is out there worth checking out.
 

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Need some help from either any woman golfers on this thread or husbands of women who golf. Where does one buy good golf attire for women? I’m struggling mightily to find high quality golf attire for Mrs O. She is petite so either nothing fits or it’s of low quality.
 

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Need some help from either any woman golfers on this thread or husbands of women who golf. Where does one buy good golf attire for women? I’m struggling mightily to find high quality golf attire for Mrs O. She is petite so either nothing fits or it’s of low quality.
Good luck - it's tough out there. Are you looking for shirts, pants/shorts/skirts, or all of the above?
 

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All of it. But she prefers shorts and tanks.
I know Lulu is popular for pants, but for shirts it's a complete coin flip on fit/style between brands. I know it's a pretty common complaint, unfortunately.
 

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If you're in around Metro West or Central MA Golfer's Warehouse at least has a women's section. The Auburn location seems to have a decent area dedicated to women's clothing. Multi-sport places like Dick's have very little for women. There are other dedicated golf chains... that's where I would start.

I tend to try things on in these stores to see how various brand sizing fits and then search for deals online. They never really have enough selection on-site anyway.
 
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PGA Superstore in Natick has a decent clothing section too, worth checking things out there.
 

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I’ll check both of those out. It’s good to have physical stores to try stuff on, one thing she struggles with is that nothing fits right.
 

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We had some unseasonably nice weather last weekend here in western Pennsylvania, so I was able to get two round in last weekend and I hit my second hole in one. It was a 165 yards with a back left pin, and I'll admit it wasn't a great shot. I left it out to the right a bit and it took a big kick left off some adulation and trickled down into the hole. The green is somewhat blind accept for the very front, so I didn't actually see it go in. When we got to the green I was checking to the right and just off because that is where it was heading, and my buddy saw it in the cup. Ironically my first hole in one years ago was very similar, I was at a different course but it also was somewhat of a blind green and I didn't realize it was in the cup until I found it. The greens are really soft and spongy this time of year, usually you don't get much if any release at all, but the shot was a tick thin as well and I lucked out.
Awesome man, congratulations. I've told the story before, but my first hole in one was a 201 yard, worm burner 3-wood (the old Ping wooden woods) that landed about 70 yards short of the green and ran all the way up into the cup.

I don't give a fuck, it's a hole in one. I've had another since, on a much better swing, but I've got buddies that have played for double the amount of years I have (20+ for me) and are better players that have never had one, and it never gets old reminding them that if they do finally get one, they'll still need another one to tie me.

Our club here is supposed to open on 4/1. Two weeks from today, our foursome/match is already made. I can't fucking wait. I'll probably get 5 rounds in that weekend if the weather is good. If the weather is bad, I plan to book a flight down to West Palm, and play the weekend at Old Marsh, Dye Preserve, PGA and Bear Lakes. I just don't feel like doing the Florida trip if the weather is going to be decent here, so I'm waiting it out.

My friend bought a bunch of abutting lots on the marsh in Seabrook years ago, and he built a pitch and putt (4 tee boxes, one green). Tees are 45, 55, 70 and 90 yards. It's spectacular and done up unbelievably, bunkers, ball washers, kegerators between tees, scorecards, the works. Every year, he does a couple of "tournaments" where 2 man teams play 12 hole matches in a bracket format. The first one was today, perfect weather, all of my friends are up there, and having a blast, but my wife chose this week to go to Iceland, so instead, I picked up the kids from school, and have been dropping them off and picking them up at sports practices since. I'm so bummed, I haven't swung a club of any kind since early November.
 

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Awesome man, congratulations. I've told the story before, but my first hole in one was a 201 yard, worm burner 3-wood (the old Ping wooden woods) that landed about 70 yards short of the green and ran all the way up into the cup.

I don't give a fuck, it's a hole in one. I've had another since, on a much better swing, but I've got buddies that have played for double the amount of years I have (20+ for me) and are better players that have never had one, and it never gets old reminding them that if they do finally get one, they'll still need another one to tie me.

Our club here is supposed to open on 4/1. Two weeks from today, our foursome/match is already made. I can't fucking wait. I'll probably get 5 rounds in that weekend if the weather is good. If the weather is bad, I plan to book a flight down to West Palm, and play the weekend at Old Marsh, Dye Preserve, PGA and Bear Lakes. I just don't feel like doing the Florida trip if the weather is going to be decent here, so I'm waiting it out.

My friend bought a bunch of abutting lots on the marsh in Seabrook years ago, and he built a pitch and putt (4 tee boxes, one green). Tees are 45, 55, 70 and 90 yards. It's spectacular and done up unbelievably, bunkers, ball washers, kegerators between tees, scorecards, the works. Every year, he does a couple of "tournaments" where 2 man teams play 12 hole matches in a bracket format. The first one was today, perfect weather, all of my friends are up there, and having a blast, but my wife chose this week to go to Iceland, so instead, I picked up the kids from school, and have been dropping them off and picking them up at sports practices since. I'm so bummed, I haven't swung a club of any kind since early November.
Thanks! And to prove that golf if the ficklest of games, I carded a double bogey on the same hole when I went out tonight after work for a quick nine. Its funny you say that about your buddies who've logged tons of seasons and rounds and never had one. My main playing partner plays at least 150 rounds a year, and has played that amount for about the last ten years or so. He's between a 2-4 handicap, so he knows how to get around the course, and he's never had one. He has a minimum of 600 or so attempts per season if he plays 150 rounds, so over the last ten years he's played roughly 6,000 par 3 hole attempts and he's still never done it. I've been with him for numerous close calls, but still no dice. One of his closest ones came on a par 4 at a course we play a few times each summer. It is about 270 yards from tee to green and he rolled one to less than a foot. Meanwhile another friend who plays with us from time to time is 15 or so handicap, plays 10-15 times a year and he has managed three aces. Golf is a weird game.
 

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Need to order a golf club travel bag. Headed to Scottsdale in a few weeks. I have no idea what I'm looking for, but I assume I want something with wheels. What else should I be looking for?

Also, need some value golf courses there. I'm not looking for anything over $150 for 18 holes. What are the recommendations?
 

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One thing my buddy got was what Amazon describes as a “golf bag protector rod”. Basically so the bag is always taut. No idea if it works but feel plausible enough.
 

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Do you want a basic decent travel bag, or something a little better quality/ protection?

One can spend $60 to $300 plus on a travel bag.
I think golf trips in the future are going to be more consistent, so I want something that's going to hold up. But I don't want to spend $300. Not sure if that's possible though.