So, uh, Brady... IS THE GREATEST QB OF ALL TIME NOT EVEN CLOSE SCREW YOU MONTANA

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So you think getting wet when you have a cold can cause a fever. Interesting.

Maybe he should refrain from bathing.
 

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Why are they preparing for a game indoors by practicing outside in the rain? BB strikes me as someone who would want to try and simulate the real game conditions as closely as he can.
 

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The report is not from ESPN, it's from a profile in The New York Times Magazine.  Here's the exact quote:
 
 
This is simply his father expressing his understanding of the harsh realities of life as an NFL player.
 
Full article here:
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/01/magazine/tom-brady-cannot-stop.html
 
There is nothing unreasonable about this understanding and it is not a criticism of anyone involved with the Pats.  It just is what it is.
 
 
Watching this, I was reminded of something Brady said to me days earlier as we looked back on his season. “Like with all the stuff we’ve been through,” he said, “it’s not like, ‘Here you go, Tom — silver platter, and here’s this trophy.’ No, you had to go through all this stuff.
“How amazing if we win this Super Bowl?”
 
Pretty fucking amazing.
 

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Why are they preparing for a game indoors by practicing outside in the rain? BB strikes me as someone who would want to try and simulate the real game conditions as closely as he can.
 
Um. Because practicing in the rain is a lot fucking harder than playing in perfect conditions. Did you not see BB's press conference when he described doing all sorts of unspeakable things to the football so that the team would be prepped for anything. It's the same reason I have my basketball team scrimmage versus seven players (hint: we'll never actually face a team with seven players on the court). Because it's a lot fucking harder than the game.
 

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Um. Because practicing in the rain is a lot fucking harder than playing in perfect conditions. Did you not see BB's press conference when he described doing all sorts of unspeakable things to the football so that the team would be prepped for anything. It's the same reason I have my basketball team scrimmage versus seven players (hint: we'll never actually face a team with seven players on the court). Because it's a lot fucking harder than the game.
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Thinking about that one. How about, if you had a baseball team, you could throw a bunch of rocks on the ground at practice at each infield position to create bad hops but your infielders would develop quicker hands, until one of them got a ball in the face. I think you might be creating a bizarre non-game scenario that would confuse more than help. 
 

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Al Zarilla said:
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Thinking about that one. How about, if you had a baseball team, you could throw a bunch of rocks on the ground at practice at each infield position to create bad hops but your infielders would develop quicker hands, until one of them got a ball in the face. I think you might be creating a bizarre non-game scenario that would confuse more than help. 
 
I think you are creating the bizarre scenarios.
 
We clearly just saw that practicing in the rain for an indoor game is something one of the best coaches does, and practicing against 6 or 7 in basketball also happens. Just like women's teams practicing against men.
 
I think that gif works more in response to your post than his. It is a fantastic gif though and I can understand if you've been just waiting to bust it out.
 

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As of now it's not going to be an indoor game. Plans are for the roof to be open.
 
I went to the 2004 game at Reliant Stadium.  It rained a little the day before the game, but the weather that Sunday was perfect for football:  60 - 65 degrees and hazy sunlight.  They still closed the dome an hour before kickoff "just to be sure."
 
Given the weather the past few days in Phoenix, I will be shocked if the dome is not closed for the game.
 
Edit:  Premature call.  Weather perfect and the roof is open,
 

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Al Zarilla said:
:speechless:
 
Thinking about that one. How about, if you had a baseball team, you could throw a bunch of rocks on the ground at practice at each infield position to create bad hops but your infielders would develop quicker hands, until one of them got a ball in the face. I think you might be creating a bizarre non-game scenario that would confuse more than help. 
 
If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball.
 
 
But seriously, you're wildly off-base here.  I mean, the rocks things is a pretty terrible idea simply from a liability standpoint, let's make that clear, but creating bizarre non-game scenarios is the soul of drill design.  You'll never ever see a baseball zig-zag coming down to an outfielder in a game like a tennis ball can, or three balls in play in the infield at the same time, but doing it in practice mints quality gloves.
 

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So you think getting wet when you have a cold can cause a fever. Interesting.

Maybe he should refrain from bathing.
 
No I think colds can be spread via close contact with other players and it would really suck if half the team came down with a cold between today/tomorrow.  
 

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No I think colds can be spread via close contact with other players and it would really suck if half the team came down with a cold between today/tomorrow.  
So...no practice all week because a guy has a cold?
 

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drleather2001 said:
So you think getting wet when you have a cold can cause a fever. Interesting.

Maybe he should refrain from bathing.
Stress affects the immune system.
A healthy person who gets wet isn't magically going to get a cold.
A seemingly healthy person who is successfully fending off a cold naught fare worse if additional body stress weakens the immune system.
Weather obviously affects the sinuses, and increase mucus, or increase spread of mucus, can increase the spread of the cold.
In some instances the weather can actually increase the effectiveness of the spread, although I think that's more about below-freezing temps.

Yes, science clearly states that being wet won't cause you to catch a cold. But it's not as simple as that.

Not to say that the rain here is a big problem. When I saw he had a cold on Wednesday I actually thought it was good timing, because it's enough time to get it out of his system, and get his rest, blood pressure up to full (if he was experiencing dehydration), and, psychosomatically, he might feel 'at his best' just a couple of days after being sick.
 

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JimBoSox9 said:
 
If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball.
 
 
But seriously, you're wildly off-base here.  I mean, the rocks things is a pretty terrible idea simply from a liability standpoint, let's make that clear, but creating bizarre non-game scenarios is the soul of drill design.  You'll never ever see a baseball zig-zag coming down to an outfielder in a game like a tennis ball can, or three balls in play in the infield at the same time, but doing it in practice mints quality gloves.
OK, sticking to ribo's 5 vs. 7 basketball practices, a lot of preparation for games in practice is to gain confidence in what you can do in games. With 5 vs. 7, anytime a player on the team of 5 gets the ball, he can be triple teamed, or worse. I see frustration coming from that strategy, outweighing anything positive I can imagine. Have to say I never tried anything like that though in 20 years or so of coaching baseball and soccer. Bill's practicing in the rain when, if it is raining on Sunday, the roof will be closed, is puzzling. Of course, there is the unique U of Phoenix field thing where it's kept outside the stadium until gameday, so maybe it's as simple as the only fields available were outside. 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUs70OZnqpc
 

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Sorry I lost the link, but there was a note about yesterday's practice. BB had them stop practice for the same number of minutes as the typical extended Super Bowl halftime.
 

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Al Zarilla said:
OK, sticking to ribo's 5 vs. 7 basketball practices, a lot of preparation for games in practice is to gain confidence in what you can do in games. With 5 vs. 7, anytime a player on the team of 5 gets the ball, he can be triple teamed, or worse. I see frustration coming from that strategy, outweighing anything positive I can imagine. Have to say I never tried anything like that though in 20 years or so of coaching baseball and soccer.
 
Needless to say beyond Al Zarilla's coaching career, teams do different things like this all the time. You don't tell the 7 players on defense to triple team the ball. You have control of the practice. You make it harder to work it into the zone or make the one team work harder to rebound. Football coaches sometimes add a 12th player on defense to simulate speed.
 
I bet you went nuts when you saw video of some coach making his team take jump shots over a guy holding a broom.
 

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Needless to say beyond Al Zarilla's coaching career, teams do different things like this all the time. You don't tell the 7 players on defense to triple team the ball. You have control of the practice. You make it harder to work it into the zone or make the one team work harder to rebound. Football coaches sometimes add a 12th player on defense to simulate speed.
 
I bet you went nuts when you saw video of some coach making his team take jump shots over a guy holding a broom.
 
Dave Cowens prepared to play Kareem Abdul-Jabbar by having teammates swat at his shots with tennis racquets in their hands.
 

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5 v. 7 is the most extreme we get and it's full court. The five can be offense or defense. It's a great scrambling drill for defenses who run a run & jump press like we do. We use the five on offense when we practice our press break. We also do some 5 v. 6 and 4 v. 5 in the half court. DrewDawg is right in that we have rules in place like no triple teams. 
 
We used to always hold one defender back when had 5 on 7 so that we essentially had 5 v. 6 in the backcourt until we got to the front court. Then, I went up against a brilliant coach who had a much less talented team than ours. She ran a diamond press completely in our backcourt. She had no rim protector. No one in our front court. For almost three quarters it gave us fits and we were in a close game. Never again. Now, when we play 5 v. 7, all 7 are allowed in the backcourt.
 

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Also, our players practice with deflated balls, overinflated balls, and balls that are just right. 
 

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In HS we also did 5 on 7 drills, both defense and offense for the exact reasons ribo states. Work the zones and tougher rebounding. My jr year at one point in the season I got the yips shooting 3s. So one practice, unbeknownst to be, our coach had one of our scrubs run out at me and knock me on my ass every time I took a shot. This was a bit unorthodox but it worked. I was thrilled the next game to not have someone decking me every time on release.
 

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Harry Hooper said:
 
Dave Cowens prepared to play Kareem Abdul-Jabbar by having teammates swat at his shots with tennis racquets in their hands.
The patriots did this iirc to prepare for JJ Watt.

The also used to put 10 foot ladders in the field during training camp. I think that was when Carrol was here?
 

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So reports are that the field is slick and really wet outside the numbers. Any more questions about why the Patriots practiced in the rain this week?
 
 
Oh and cue up the allegations.
 

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So reports are that the field is slick and really wet outside the numbers. Any more questions about why the Patriots practiced in the rain this week?
 
 
Oh and cue up the allegations.
 
Seems to indicate they had the field slab parked outside the stadium during a very heavy rain in AZ. The drainage system built into that movable slab probably isn't very heavy duty given the rarity of major rainfall there.
 

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No No No. BB snuck into the stadium last night with that elderly ball attendant and turned on the sprinklers a la Bull Durham. The ball attendant then went into the tunnel for a bathroom break.
 

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This is absurd:
 
Sometimes I think these guys are just trolling us all, and actually hoping that all the negative noise motivates the Patriots, so that they will get more eyeballs during their air time while they talk about both dynasties and scandals and his awful it is that some people in the media manufacture scandals for a couple of weeks.

Then I remember that most sports media commentators are just dumb.
 

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Last 2 drives of game: 13-15, 124 yards, 2 TDs
 
Last drive of game: 8-8, 65 yards, 1 TD
 

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Last 2 drives of game: 13-15, 124 yards, 2 TDs
 
Last drive of game: 8-8, 65 yards, 1 TD
this says it all. anyone questioning Brady and his game just needs to look no further than these numbers against the best D in the game
 

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.Today was far from his best, but the job got done. Thank you, Tom.
37-50, 4 TDs, greatest 4th quarter comeback in Super Bowl history, but far from his best. That's how freaking good he is.
 

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I still think that Bledsoe shouldn't lose his job due to an injury. Maybe if Brady wins a couple more I'll concede the point.
 

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Those last two drives, man. Say what you will, when the chips are down I want TOM FUCKING BRADY with the ball.
 
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