Snyder: We Need New Stadium
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MF'er.
FedEx is terrible, but a new place - really???? I do not see any of the local municipalities going for it, though DC has hinted they would like the team back.
Big question is does he go all Jerry-world on the thing knowing he cannot fill the smaller place they are in now?
FedEx is terrible, but a new place - really???? I do not see any of the local municipalities going for it, though DC has hinted they would like the team back.
Big question is does he go all Jerry-world on the thing knowing he cannot fill the smaller place they are in now?
This is all positioning on his part to get a Super Bowl and, IMO, change the name. I would imagine that the last bit of leverage he will have on the name will go out the window when the NFL is deciding whether to award DC a Super Bowl.
Also, here's an idea Dan, if it's gonna feel like RFK and move like RFK, then just upgrade RFK. It's still there. But why do that when you can run across the river to the Commonwealth and milk those Virginia dollars dry.
This fucking guy.
Also, here's an idea Dan, if it's gonna feel like RFK and move like RFK, then just upgrade RFK. It's still there. But why do that when you can run across the river to the Commonwealth and milk those Virginia dollars dry.
This fucking guy.
I love that 17 years old is old for a Stadium now. Gillette is 12 years old I think and still feels like the "new" place the Patriots play to me.
Ralphwiggum said:
Not as bad as both Atlanta teams stealing government money for new stadiums when one is 22 years old and the other is 17 years old.
In the now closed name thread, I indicated a few months ago that the Redskins were poking around in the Capital Hill area. This announcement confirms that. I'm sure they are poking around in other locales, with the intent of playing DC, VA and MD again each other.mascho said:
One thing I am pretty confident about. He will have to commit to a name change before he's back in DC.
DC is where he wants to be. MD and VA are so congested -- unregulated growth -- that he would have to go pretty far from the city to get a suitable site in either state.
When a city builds a team a new stadium, is there a requirement of some sort that team must stay for a certain amount of time? 17 years is ridiculous. PNC park is 13 years old and it still feels brand new. These cities need to require 40 or 50 years before a team can start jockeying for a new stadium again.
soxfan121 said:
yep, he knows he is getting pressure to change the name, so he figures he will hold the name ransom to DC for a new stadium. Smooth move, actually. All the politicians can act heroic for getting him to change the name and he gets new things. (taxpayers get fucked, per usual)
Ralphwiggum said:
FedEx was built without charm and open spaces...in the middle of "nothing to do here" Landover next to the old Caps/Bullets stadium.
The design goal seemed to be to get as many seats in there as possible...with less of an emphasis (unlike PNC and Gilette) on having the most revenue-producing luxury boxes and club seats.
That being said, the time I went to a game at FedEx in the upper deck was just fine - good sightlines, etc.
Heard yesterday that Skins are committed to Fed X lease through 2027. But that's not that far away. Realistically, it's as many as 10 years from conception to the opening . They can buy out the last 3 years. Money solves many things.findguapo said:
Yes, great idea. Let's keep a racially charged name that offends almost everyone just to spite Daniel Snyder.soxfan121 said:
Let's all just deal with it.
DrewDawg said:
Well sure, but blackmail is also a rather unpalatable solution.
Transparently, this is a declaration that he will change the name in exchange for several hundred million dollars of the taxpayers money and a Super Bowl.
If those are his conditions, he can go screw and the longer-term process of changing the name (i.e. putting pressure on FedEx and other sponsors, continuing litigation, especially as regards the trademark, etc.) will eventually win the day.
I don't use the name, I think the name should be changed, I lived on a Native reservation for a year...I understand the name is awful and offensive and I would like it changed. I'm not going to endorse paying off a bully to do it.
Money does solve things, but the money won't be coming out of Snyder's pocket. The NFL does not operate that way.dcmissle said:
Anyone else feel that its become harder to be a fan of the NFL these days? The constant siphoning of taxpayer $$ for stadia, the lack accountability for CTE, the unending commercials during the games themselves, the lack of any real PED policy, the naked money grabs. It feels as though I need to take a shower everytime I watch a game
My seats are in the upper deck, and I tend to agree that the sight-lines are pretty good up there.
Snyder hated the stadium from the instant he bought the team. The Cooke's (previous owners) built the place in 18 months and even at opening it was lacking a lot of things which are commonplace in newer stadiums. Snyder even commented (after dumping a pile of $$$) to "renovate" the new stadium that he was surprised at hoe terrible it was and that his 800 million should have gone further.
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One of the early "screw the fans" began with his subsequent "improvements"
- adding 3 rows down low calling them "dream seats" and stuck it to the people who used to be in row 1 and are now in row 4
- adding lots of obstructed view seats in the 200 level and being less than forthright about how poor the view can be from there
- filling in the top step of the club level seats creating a continuous last row around the entire stadium sticking it to the people who had an aisle seat the previous year
- and on and on and on.....
All that being said, I am OK with a stadium in DC, I do not live there so what do I care if their taxes are raised to fund the thing?
Snyder hated the stadium from the instant he bought the team. The Cooke's (previous owners) built the place in 18 months and even at opening it was lacking a lot of things which are commonplace in newer stadiums. Snyder even commented (after dumping a pile of $$$) to "renovate" the new stadium that he was surprised at hoe terrible it was and that his 800 million should have gone further.
)One of the early "screw the fans" began with his subsequent "improvements"
- adding 3 rows down low calling them "dream seats" and stuck it to the people who used to be in row 1 and are now in row 4
- adding lots of obstructed view seats in the 200 level and being less than forthright about how poor the view can be from there
- filling in the top step of the club level seats creating a continuous last row around the entire stadium sticking it to the people who had an aisle seat the previous year
- and on and on and on.....
All that being said, I am OK with a stadium in DC, I do not live there so what do I care if their taxes are raised to fund the thing?
Rudi Fingers said:
I don't think this is a surprise - I recall rumors that Snyder was eventually going to try to move the team back to DC years ago. Which is cool, I guess, nobody seems to like FedEx Field.
But yeah, DC should tell him to go screw if he wants public money.
But yeah, DC should tell him to go screw if he wants public money.
They did not have to deal with the DC City Council and Mayor. Or the No. VA authorities -- Jack Kent Cooke from his grave can speak to that. And at least some of the sites under consideration raise significant environmental issues. That process alone can consume years. Everything is more difficult here.drleather2001 said:
It's a buyer's market frankly. Snyder can point with some justification to the money advanced to the Nationals. But as a DC resident, I have no burning desire to have the Stadium in DC. I can and do walk to the Verizon Center for basketball and hockey, and take the Metro for baseball. I enjoy this, and it's very convenient right after work.
Football, there are only 8 games a year, most on Sundays, and all possible locales are equally inconvenient from my house on the DC - MD border. I am indifferent to where they play.
DC City Council Member Jack Evans was just on ESPN 980 here in DC.
@Russellmania980 6m
DC Council Member Jack Evans tells @ESPNRadio980 they want #Redskins back in DC & on RFK site. Wants it ideally done & ready in five yrs.
@Russellmania980 6m
DC Council Member Jack Evans tells @ESPNRadio980 they want #Redskins back in DC & on RFK site. Wants it ideally done & ready in five yrs.
More than smooth. It's downright genius.findguapo said:
Also there isn't a 40-year old stadium in the world that can touch a brand spanking new state-of-the-art, Super Bowl hosting, taxpayer paying, nickname changing, revenue generating, big dick swinging destination. There may not be a 20-year old one either.
The Northern VA site that was in the lead when FedEx was built is now covered in new condos and a shopping mall. There's virtually nowhere satisfactory within the metrorail radius that you could put a stadium in NoVA unless you were willing to tear down schools or something like that.
dcmissle said:
Cooke wanted a new stadium on the RFK site too, adjacent to current building. He couldn't pull it off due to complications dcmissile alludes to and was wooed by mover and shaker Wayne Curry (RIP) to move to Landover/Raljon in PG County.
Also at that time the mayor called Cooke a bully which he did not take well to. I seem to remember ther ther was a historically black golf course there which part of needed to be demolished to put the new place on the RFK site. That may have been because they still needed RFK to play in, my memory is hazy on that.loshjott said:
I have always been of the mind that if Barry was the mayor Cooke had to deal with, the MD site never would have happened.
Marciano490 said:
It's where Potomac Yards is--the strip mall with the Target in it, and the 4 million condos to the south that have gone up over the past 9 months. Just south of Crystal City.
If he were to move the team then it brings up the interesting notion of where does the name go and if Washington were to get the rights, would they want it. Probably the only instance in the league where a region would willingly let the name go with the owner. When Modell left the Browns name to Cleveland did he create a precedent that's now a league rule?
Given the history and tradition of the Washington team - often cited by Snyder in his arguments to keep the name - it's ironic that he'd then threaten to MOVE that team. Some tradition. Unbridled hypocrisy and I hope someone calls him on it.
Given the history and tradition of the Washington team - often cited by Snyder in his arguments to keep the name - it's ironic that he'd then threaten to MOVE that team. Some tradition. Unbridled hypocrisy and I hope someone calls him on it.
In addition to a new stadium, Snyder also needs new beer: "Redskins selling expired World Cup Budweiser beer"
Papelbon's Poutine said:
Yes to Tysons, no to Dulles. Dulles portion may never get built.
The RFK site is terrible I think. 295 and E Capital could not handle the traffic, which would lead to massive bottlenecks at the bridge on E Cap, particularly on Thursday and Monday night games. Nats stadium has easy access to 695 (which can handle that traffic) via S Cap or M Street, so it works. I'm not sold that the RFK location could handle 60k-80k people like FedEx. RFK handled 60K in its time, so maybe it could work? But I'm dubious since the population in the DC Metro area has certainly increased since the Redskins left the District.
