Shohei Ohtani is an LA Dodger: 10 years/$700 million

Rovin Romine

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I provided three, one of which was literally titled "Yes,, The Playoffs are Still A Crapshoot." If you can point out some flaws in their methodology, or if you've uncovered evidence that contradicts the broadly held consensus of the sabremetric community, feel free to provide it!
Yeah, the board already did that. None of them supported your conclusion, no matter what they were titled.
 
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Yeah, the board already did that. None of them supported your conclusion, no matter what they were titled.
Oh, cool, must have missed that. Kindly point out to me the posts that actually contradicted these extensive statisical studies with something more meaningful than "well, sometimes a team plays better than another team, you know."

Like, what? I am literally the only poster who sourced anything in the prior discusion.
 

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Oh, cool, must have missed that. Kindly point out to me the posts that actually contradicted these extensive statisical studies with something more meaningful than "well, sometimes a team plays better than another team, you know."

Like, what? I am literally the only poster who sourced anything in the prior discusion.
Your position is the post season is a crapshoot, meaning the outcome is random. That's fine and potentially an interesting discussion - but it's on you to prove that. You did not. Your sources were, in the context of the discussion, garbage. Which is to say they did not at all prove your assertion, because they simply were not on point.

It is beyond tiresome for someone who has failed to prove something to later pretend that they have succeeded. I realize gaslighting has become popular in the past decade, but it has no place in any normal discussion.
 

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Probably old news to many, but I found Ohtan's comments that he never planned to be anything but a pitcher professionally quite interesting, especially since he will just be a hitter in 2024:

"Every other team apart from the Fighters were looking at me as a pitcher," Ohtani said. "But the Fighters were going to allow me to do both pitching and hitting. Honestly I was never thinking about doing both on a professional level. But they approached me and I wanted to take the chance."
Story
 

CaptainLaddie

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where the darn libs live

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Which makes a ton of sense. Honestly, it's insane that he could save $98M in taxes through this contract.
But that's only if he moves to Texas or Florida once his contract is up... I'm kind of assuming that he will go back to Japan and I'd think he'd have to pay their taxes?
 

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Sorry to bump the old thread, but I thought this was a cool article. It's sort of an attempt to quantify the difference between the Dodgers and the Angels during the Ohtani years. You don't need a Fangraphs post to figure out that the Dodgers have gotten better results than the Angels - though the Angels signed premiere FAs, employed superstars, graduated some well-regarded prospects, etc. - but, while this doesn't necessarily make any definitive conclusions as to why, it does demonstrate, basically, the effect of whatever organizational special sauces the Dodgers have had working for them in the past several years. Sort of quantifying the effects of a front office and organizational infrastructure and all that stuff, basically. It's interesting!

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/shohei-ohtanis-threshold-moment-with-the-angels/