Not surprising. SF is close to where he went to school, it's a familiar scheme, I'm sure he got paid well, and lots of business opportunities for himself there. Spend the cap space on getting a front 7 that can get after the passer.
2018 sports analysis in a nutshell here.Sure am. But I’m not oblivious to Jimmy G getting traded closing a window for the Pats. So the urgency should be there to give Brady a final crack at the ring. While I didn’t watch a minute of the Super Bowl doesn’t take a genius to figure out that Rowe is a trash cast off from Philly either. Do you really want to gamble Brady’s potential final year with bringing in retreads and a bunch of 3rd day draft picks or do you want to try and get a Marcus Peters or even Sherman and bring back Solder?
Although to be fair, he posted stupid shit long before 2018.2018 sports analysis in a nutshell here.
Man who admits he didn't watch football last year will now question Hall of Famer who's been to the last two Super Bowls on his team building...before the league year even begins.
Good times.
I agree with all of this except for the next dynasty part. It is too close to the current Pats dynasty and I wouldn't be able to consume any sports media without hearing how bad the Pats messed up (that would be awful).I have the opposite reaction: I am glad they kept Brady and I am happy for Jimmy and hope they become the next dynasty in a few years. People would, of course, look back and claim the Pats could have kept their dominance going, but San Fran has a much better setup now for long-term success than the Pats would have with Jimmy. This team is better off maxing it out the next couple years and then a complete overhaul. San Fran has a shitload of cap space and can start now. Plus, keeping Jimmy would have fucked the Pats short term.
He didn’t go as far south this time.Sherman's march ended quickly.
More to the point ... why should we?What the fuck does he care?
I mentioned it in part because I was wondering if anyone had heard about any complaining about whether folks felt free agents were disadvantaged by that rule. As I said, I thought it made complete sense.More to the point ... why should we?
I disagree, because I think that while that might maximize the expected # of championships going forward in the short-term, there comes a point where that type of team-building is counterproductive to actually having a fan-base - we (as fans) like to at least pretend we're not just rooting for a team logo, and trading the most popular team members (particularly when they haven't clearly yet hit the downslope of their career) makes it less likely that I'll really care as a fan.jimmy g will plob be the next big star look he went 5-0 with a 1-10 team SF shouild win 10 next year and go to the playoff u cant blame mr kraft for not waiting to trade tom but he shouild had looked at that C/Indy trade from 1988 or 1989 where bird goes to indy for c person and d schempf not tradeing bird mchaie and parish set the c back 10 years
yes brady shouild had been dealt to the rams for A Donald or 2 1sts
this wouild had allow to also deal gromk to hou for a 1st and a 3rd
deal wouild been
brady
19 1st a donald gronk to hou also a 19 1st and 3rd
But, in fairness, the Patriots have been playing on All-Madden mode in terms of drafting for the last 16 years or so, given that they haven't had their "own" draft pick slot been better than 20th since 2003 (which was the 19th pick, which they ultimately turned into Vince Wilfork). They had some other top 20 picks, but those were either shrewd trades (thanks San Fran!), or trading quality players (Bledsoe and Seymour). Pretty much every other team has had lulls where they were able to rebuild their team at the top of the draft (Denver, getting Von Miller, etc, Indy getting Luck, Philly getting Wertz) The Steelers might be about the only one that hasn't, and they still had some 8-8's mixed in somewhat recently).They'll fill some via free agency. But this is a team that got older and more reliant on band-aids and less reliant on 1s and 2s playing at high levels for years. I don't feel like going over roster moves over the past few years, but IMO there were too many #1 and #2 disappointments. (Richards, Easley, Cy Jones, Collins, Dobson etc) and trades ( #1 for Cooks #2 for Ealy) that carried limited returns. We needed young players playing above expectations, and we didn't get that. And now we are about to pay for it.
I was fair, and off the top of my head I listed the the #1 and #2s over just the past few years that I considered disappointments who did not deliver as expected. As a result there are today a # of holes, particularly on D.But, in fairness, the Patriots have been playing on All-Madden mode in terms of drafting for the last 16 years or so, given that they haven't had their "own" draft pick slot been better than 20th since 2003 (which was the 19th pick, which they ultimately turned into Vince Wilfork). They had some other top 20 picks, but those were either shrewd trades (thanks San Fran!), or trading quality players (Bledsoe and Seymour). Pretty much every other team has had lulls where they were able to rebuild their team at the top of the draft (Denver, getting Von Miller, etc, Indy getting Luck, Philly getting Wertz) The Steelers might be about the only one that hasn't, and they still had some 8-8's mixed in somewhat recently).
.And most of disappointments you listed, yes they're disappointments, but I'd only really consider Richards of your list a questionable move (you can obviously add in the likes of Tavon Wilson, Dowling, Brace, to bolster it a bit, but those were years ago at this point, and it hasn't really affected the team yet). I think we all knew Easley was a gamble based on his injury history. Don't think anyone expected Cyrus the Virus to get the dropsies, (and who knows if he can still rebound, albeit with his injury, who knows). Collins played well at times, and they were still able to recoup a high 3rd, knowing that they weren't going to re-sign him. I still am surprised that Dobson didn't pan out, some of his catches at Marshall were so bonkers (and he'll always have that game against the Steelers in 2012). And I wouldn't really call a 1000 yard season at WR for a low 1st rounder a disappointment.
And can we stop with the #2 for Ealy nonsense? It was like trading down 8 slots to get him. A mistake, but certainly not the worst move evah.
First off, I hope I didn't come off as overly combative to you; I did not intend to (It's just this Daylight savings and that lying son of a bitch Johnson).It was suggested I was unfair for labeling the Pats last several #1 and #2 s as disaapointing. And I understand drafting towards the end of a round is not the same as drafting towards the top, but I'm not sure even accounting for that. what context you would like me to assess Ealy, (cut before the season started) Cooks, (still assessing) Richards, (bust in the making) Easley, (no longer on the team) (Cy Jones (bust in the making) Collins (traded) Dobson (IIRC released). Under what context would you label these picks in the aggregate as anything other than disappointing?
I don't lnow other teams batting average, slugging % or OPS, but off the top of my head I would ballpark that other teams may may have had greater success in terms of years of expected quality service that the Pats received for the above group of recent 1s and 2s. And again IMO explains both the relative aging of the Pats (from one of the NFLs younger teams to one of the older teams) and the # of holes they have to patch.
YMMV
I don't think it's any one thing. The recent draft record isn't great, but I don't think it's the primary driver of the defensive woes. The 2014 draft was a bust but those contracts would be up now anyway, which is what we've seen with the excellent 2012 (Jones, Hightower, Ebner) and 2013 (Collins, Ryan, Harmon) drafts. 2015 was great; people will complain about Richards and Grissom but they got three above-average starters in Flowers, Brown, and Shaq Mason. The problem is the last two years, and there the missing Deflategate pick and injuries are coloring perception. They drafted 8 players in the first 4 rounds of the last two drafts, and 5 of those 8 missed the entire 2017 campaign (Cyrus Jones, Valentine, Mitchell, Rivers, Garcia). If one or two of those guys is healthy or contributing, we might see the recent draft results pretty differently - but, importantly, it wouldn't necessarily have helped fix the defense.heh
I don't regard calling those # 1 & 2 picks "disappointing" as particulalry egregious or a hot take. But rather a reasonable assessment of the past few years.Again there's a reason this team got older over the last couple of years and had a greater reliance on quick fix FA vet band-aids, the 1s and 2s who you expect to be cornerstones for 5+ years, weren't.
The burn Seattle to the ground joke was to me not Danoo ... Keep upI heard he burned Seattle to the ground before he left. That's just a joke DanoooMe.
it is a shitty contract for Sherman
Not buying shitty. He's a 30year old CB coming off Achilles surgery.it is a shitty contract for Sherman
Not that it changes your point, but it was an achilles injury, not a torn ACL.There's a lot of incentives, and there's a good chance he doesn't get a ton of money, but the dude will be 30 before the contract starts, and he missed the 2nd half of last season with a torn ACL - nobody was going to give him significant real guarantees.
Most likely not. I thought he'd get more in year 2 though. Either an option or roster bonus due at beginning of year. Gives him and the team a year to see how he responds.There's a lot of incentives, and there's a good chance he doesn't get a ton of money, but the dude will be 30 before the contract starts, and he missed the 2nd half of last season with a torn ACL - nobody was going to give him significant real guarantees.