Sepp Blatter resigns, FIFA ExCo members face extradition
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Do we think the evidence that will be coming out includes pictures of Sepp banging farm animals? Because that's about what I assumed it would take.
The latest documents showing the bribe money going from FIFA to Warner through his lieutenant must have made him realize it's only a matter of time until he's directly implicated.coremiller said:
SoxFanInCali said:
Sepp Blatter: “We need a limitation on mandates and terms of office. I have fought for these changes but my efforts have been counteracted.” :lol:
Can I do a "USA USA" chant? Because, man, it seems like the USA's actions have led to the downfall of this particular reign of terror.
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Average Reds said:
Please, he gives exactly two shits about his public image. I can only assume he thinks this will reduce the odds that he spends his dotage in a US or European prison.
bosox4283 said:
The national anthem will do [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAU3iINiLCE[/media]
Love how he spoke in French today. When things are bad, speak in French. When he wants to go all FU, speak in English. He is a creep of the highest order.
SoxFanInCali said:
Sure, but did he not know these docs existed before yesterday, or was he so dense to think that the feds would never find them?
I prefer the theory that someone flipped and ratted him out. Another possibility is that major sponsors started to feel the heat and threatened to bail on FIFA, and that led others to push Sepp out, but that seem less likely to me.
coremiller said:
One thing to watch is whether he still ends up traveling to Canada for the Women's World Cup later this month, as he has been promising to do.
He really can't serve as FIFA president going forward and refuse to travel to any country where he could be arrested and easily extradited to the US. But if he's just staying in office for the next 4-6 months, maybe he can pull that off.
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DrewDawg said:
I guess in retrospect, once shown to be enormous liars, the Sepp Administration was looking increasingly like this guy:
coremiller said:
It's pure arrogance. Before last week, FIFA had no reason not to behave as if law did not apply to them.
Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
I suppose it might depend on the nature of the charges and the willingness of local authorities to cooperate, but it's not like Switzerland is exactly a safe haven.
With Blatter gone and everyone on the executive committee wondering exactly what the US Dept of Justice has in their files, the question becomes what has to change for FIFA to function without the bribery/racketeering/etc.
[SIZE=10.5pt]Blatter was a problem but the base from which he drew his power still exists and unless the allocation of votes is adjusted nothing will prevent this from happening again.[/SIZE]blueguitar322 said:
coremiller said:
All the legal issues are above my pay grade. But I would imagine he stands a better chance of fighting extradition in Switzerland, especially as a Swiss national, than in Canada or many other countries.
Doug Beerabelli said:
I believe that Blatter said that the votes have been cast and they wouldn't be reviewing that decision. But once Blatter is gone and others are in power, who knows what will happen? Especially if more juicy details about the bidding process come to light in the investigation.
Doug Beerabelli said:
Pro tip: Qatar can just stop building the stadia now. Whomever gets elected will be on a mandate to undo that mistake, at least if the shift in power truly is going from CAF/AFC/COMNEBOL/the weaker nations of CONCACAF to UEFA/CanAm/ANZ.
That said, FIFA has to make sure this isn't going to just be a case of Blatter stepping aside to let a cleaner version of himself come to the fore because the same structure's in place.
Has to be the sponsors. The only thing these guys care about is money after all.coremiller said:
I still think FIFA is doing its best so that nothing happens on that front. During his resignation Blatter stated that waiting until the FIFA Congress meeting in Mexico City next May for a new election would be waiting too long. Then Domenico Scala spoke and said taking the time to organize the candidates gives them a window of December-March. They know the longer they put off the successor the more difficult it becomes to undo their previous work.Doug Beerabelli said:
Russia is not Qatarjkempa said:
1) Soccer history
2) Nuclear weapons
3) Money and power and more smarts
4) No stadia issue
5) Much Less of a heat issue
Verbate of remarks:
124425 Good evening ladies and gentlemen. I have thoroughly considered my presidency and about the last 40 years of my life. These years were closely related to FIFA and the wonderful sport of football.
4456 I appreciate and love FIFA more than anything else and I only want to do the best for football and for FIFA and this institution. I have decided to stand again to be elected because I was convinced it was the best option for football. The elections opposed but the challenges that FIFA is facing have not come to an end.
4532 FIFA needs a profound structure. Although the members of FIFA have given me the new mandate and re-elected me president, this mandate does not seem to be supported by everybody in the world of football, supporters, clubs, players those who inspire life in football.
4604 As much as we do in FIFA. This is why I will call an extraordinary congress and put at their disposal my function. It is going to he held as soon as possible a new president. I will continue to serve as president until the new elections are going to be held.
4643 The next ordinary congress of FIFA is going to be held on May 13th in Mexico and if we waited until then we would only delay matters which is why I would like to ask the organizing committee to organize an extraordinary congress as rapidly as possible to elect my successor.
4710 The procedure, this will be carried out in accordance with the FIFA statutes and sufficient time should be allocated to find the best candidates to stand for election so that these candidates can of course can carry out a campaign. I will not stand and I am now free from the constraints of an election, I will be in a position to focus on implementing ambitious and profound reforms.
4751 to follow on our initial efforts. For many years we have gone to great lengths to introduce administrative reforms and of course these reforms need to be continued as they are not sufficient. The executive committee that represents the confederations and we have no control of reps from the confederations but their actions of course come under the responsibility of FIFA so we need here a structural change of a profound nature.
4831 The size of the executive committee has to be looked into and the members will have to be elected by the FIFA congress. Look into the profiles and aptitude of all the members of the executive committee is key has to be carried out at FIFA level rather than the confederations. We will also need a limitation on mandates in terms of office not only for the president but for all members of the executive committee.
4906 I have indeed fought for these changes and my efforts have been contracted. I will get there this time but I can’t do it on my own. I have asked Mr. Stella to implement and execute these measures and other initiatives elected by the FIFA congress. Mr. Stella is an independent chairman—and he’s also the chairman of the electoral committee and will monitor the election of my successor.
4955 He enjoys the confidence of the large number of members inside FIFA and has skills and knowledge and experience that is required to contribute and implementing these important reforms.
5015 I’m linked to FIFA and it’s interest and the interest is very dear to me and that’s why I’m taking this decision. I would like to thank everyone who has always supported me as president of FIFA and who have done so much for football. What counts most to me is the institution FIFA and football around the world. Thank you very much for your kind attention.
4456 I appreciate and love FIFA more than anything else and I only want to do the best for football and for FIFA and this institution. I have decided to stand again to be elected because I was convinced it was the best option for football. The elections opposed but the challenges that FIFA is facing have not come to an end.
4532 FIFA needs a profound structure. Although the members of FIFA have given me the new mandate and re-elected me president, this mandate does not seem to be supported by everybody in the world of football, supporters, clubs, players those who inspire life in football.
4604 As much as we do in FIFA. This is why I will call an extraordinary congress and put at their disposal my function. It is going to he held as soon as possible a new president. I will continue to serve as president until the new elections are going to be held.
4643 The next ordinary congress of FIFA is going to be held on May 13th in Mexico and if we waited until then we would only delay matters which is why I would like to ask the organizing committee to organize an extraordinary congress as rapidly as possible to elect my successor.
4710 The procedure, this will be carried out in accordance with the FIFA statutes and sufficient time should be allocated to find the best candidates to stand for election so that these candidates can of course can carry out a campaign. I will not stand and I am now free from the constraints of an election, I will be in a position to focus on implementing ambitious and profound reforms.
4751 to follow on our initial efforts. For many years we have gone to great lengths to introduce administrative reforms and of course these reforms need to be continued as they are not sufficient. The executive committee that represents the confederations and we have no control of reps from the confederations but their actions of course come under the responsibility of FIFA so we need here a structural change of a profound nature.
4831 The size of the executive committee has to be looked into and the members will have to be elected by the FIFA congress. Look into the profiles and aptitude of all the members of the executive committee is key has to be carried out at FIFA level rather than the confederations. We will also need a limitation on mandates in terms of office not only for the president but for all members of the executive committee.
4906 I have indeed fought for these changes and my efforts have been contracted. I will get there this time but I can’t do it on my own. I have asked Mr. Stella to implement and execute these measures and other initiatives elected by the FIFA congress. Mr. Stella is an independent chairman—and he’s also the chairman of the electoral committee and will monitor the election of my successor.
4955 He enjoys the confidence of the large number of members inside FIFA and has skills and knowledge and experience that is required to contribute and implementing these important reforms.
5015 I’m linked to FIFA and it’s interest and the interest is very dear to me and that’s why I’m taking this decision. I would like to thank everyone who has always supported me as president of FIFA and who have done so much for football. What counts most to me is the institution FIFA and football around the world. Thank you very much for your kind attention.
Given that most of the FIFA ExCo committee is now under lock & key or going through the extradition process, there will need to be significant changes to the entire management structure and it's not just a replacement of Blatter that needs to be sorted.
Silverdude2167 said:
The thing about the vote allocation and the similar distribution of funding is that the countries like Germany, USA, Spain, etc, don't need the money because they already have plenty of money, and the really small countries don't need as much money because they don't have that many people. So the countries that really get pinched are the midsize or middle tier countries that could use more money because they have some combination of a decent amount of people and not that much money.
I can't see Russia losing the 2018 cup, partially because no one will want to piss off Putin and partially because there just isn't much time to set everything up somewhere else. Qatar was always a terrible choice, though, and the most recent iteration of plans (hosting in Dec instead of July) might disrupt the profitability of just about every domestic league outside of MLS. For once it seems that big money and justice might be playing on the same team.
jkempa said:
I kind of hope that 2018 is left alone. It was obviously shady, but it's three years away (and the Russian Confed Cup, two years) and further, the west doesn't need to be picking every fight possible with Russia. There has to be a last "bad FIFA" decision left to stand, and it might as well be that one.
Qatar, I hope is jacked tomorrow.
He's all good with the Swiss.
Swiss attorney general: FIFA President Sepp Blatter is not under investigation by Swiss authorities - @AP http://t.co/FPIajwKZag
— Breaking News (@BreakingNews) June 2, 2015
Swiss attorney general: FIFA President Sepp Blatter is not under investigation by Swiss authorities - @AP http://t.co/FPIajwKZag
— Breaking News (@BreakingNews) June 2, 2015
You know, good for him. While it's possible and maybe even highly likely that he was pushed into this like Nixon, by the creep of the stench that was coming closer and closer. And maybe this is a harbinger that we're going to see significant news about him personally in upcoming days.
But, at least the part of the statement I read, he's saying the right words. Whatever his motivation, his words are going to matter and are going to be the mandate for organizational reform. It's a good speech by a bad person. And it actually makes me think there is some hope. Should his legacy be honored statesman who took one for the team or disgraced leader who presided over massive corruption? I don't give a fuck. Fix FIFA. He's helped that process today a great deal.
I hope the Greg Dykes and others restrain themselves in taking their victory laps. It should be about that.
And, while I know that bags full of cash and scandalous island country bribery is sexy, I hope today's events don't detract from what I happen to think is the greatest scandal over which he's presided -- the near daily deaths of near slaves building white elephant stadiums. Until this situation is addressed, I have no inclination for any kind of victory lap and continue to be worried about everyone who participates in that world cup being complicit. If it's not the first order of business for new FIFA, it should be near the top of the list.
But, at least the part of the statement I read, he's saying the right words. Whatever his motivation, his words are going to matter and are going to be the mandate for organizational reform. It's a good speech by a bad person. And it actually makes me think there is some hope. Should his legacy be honored statesman who took one for the team or disgraced leader who presided over massive corruption? I don't give a fuck. Fix FIFA. He's helped that process today a great deal.
I hope the Greg Dykes and others restrain themselves in taking their victory laps. It should be about that.
And, while I know that bags full of cash and scandalous island country bribery is sexy, I hope today's events don't detract from what I happen to think is the greatest scandal over which he's presided -- the near daily deaths of near slaves building white elephant stadiums. Until this situation is addressed, I have no inclination for any kind of victory lap and continue to be worried about everyone who participates in that world cup being complicit. If it's not the first order of business for new FIFA, it should be near the top of the list.
People are speculating that Blatter has a deal with the FBI in place. I tend to doubt that's why the resignation was so abrupt. But I kind of wonder if Budweiser or Visa or McDs or whomever had some backchannel communications with FIFA. More than a little sponsor pressure could have caused this.
The seeds of President Lynch's successful 2024 campaign were sown in 2015, when an investigation she spearheaded, first as a federal prosecutor and then as Attorney General, resulted in the indictment of several FIFA officials and the resignation of Blatter....bosox4283 said:
Not really kidding